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Medical Billing ...??? !!!

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:32 am
by Ronn1708
:o .Well the hospital bill came in the mail today 13 days post surgery. The insurance has been billed but of course the insurance company has not had time to respond. I almost went into shock. The bill was pennies shy of 75k. I am up at 2am with this on my mind. I told my wife if the insurance don’t come through we have lost the farm. I know the insurance company won’t end up paying that much in the end but wow. I had to have a CT scan Monday and my insurance would not approve it. The lady at the imagining clinic said they had placed the request for CT into pending and it might take 48-72 hours to get approved or it could be denied. They were to bill the insurance approximately $600 for the scan. I went the self pay route and cost me $300 cash. No wonder our healthcare cost are through the roof. I am not 65 yet so I’m still in the private insurance sector but you know Medicare is free to the Recepient. I said I wished my life away for my previous birthdays (15th get drivers license, 18th could buy beer, 21st could gamble) but older now and don’t want to wish my life away cause it goes by fastest enough on its own !! :(
But I do declare if 65 don’t sound good right now sitting here worrying at 2:20 in the morning.

Just wondered if anyone was shocked by the cost involved?
I got to have another surgery because of another issue in the next several days so I guess sleepless nights have just begun.
Thanks for any input.
Ron

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:56 am
by flguy621
I had my surgery 4 weeks ago and the bill was $125k. After negotiated discounts with the insurance, the hospital accepted $22k. I haven’t seen the doctor or anesthesia bills yet.

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:14 am
by Waynetho
Mine was only billed at about 66,000 total for all services and people involved. Insurance paid 37,000, give or take. I had met my out of pocket max for the year with my colonoscopy and UroLift procedures so I paid nothing.

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:38 am
by FreddyFree
Americans need universal health care!

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:30 am
by MK1965
Insurance companies are contracted with the hospitals and providers for pre set fees for any procedure. When you receive EOB ( explanation of benefits) you will see how much insurance will pay and what is your Remaining portion
Here is an example: Your Insurance and hospital agreed On 30K for IPP procedure which includes use of OR, pre-op and PACU , also all medications implant etc. Depending on your insurance, you might end with 20% coinsurance plus deductibles if you did not met it prior to surgery.
You will receive 2 more bills, from surgeon and anesthesiologists.
So, you can concentrate on healing and recovery.
To early to be sleepless at 2:20 am.
Wish you good luck .
MK

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:11 am
by 544kenmatt
Most providers will overbill the insurance to make sure they aren't underbilling for the procedure. The insurance will cut back the amount to whatever the contracted price is for the procedure.

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:10 pm
by Lost Sheep
Ronn1708 wrote:I am not 65 yet so I’m still in the private insurance sector but you know Medicare is free to the Recepient.

Medicare is not free. There are premiums involved. And co-pays, too. Not sure about deductibles. Coverage for drugs is available and not free, either. Medicare part "A" is free, I think. But the rest....
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:13 pm
by Lost Sheep
FreddyFree wrote:Americans need universal health care!

To a great extent, Americans have willinly chosen the health care system we have. This is through our votes and instructions to our legislators -or the abdication of those responsibilities.

In a Democracy (of whatever form), a population gets the government it deserves.

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:51 pm
by SW0110
My revision billed in over 175000. I ended up out about 800 bucks after all the disallowances and caps along with approved payment to hospital.

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:55 pm
by Gt1956
Lost Sheep wrote:
FreddyFree wrote:Americans need universal health care!

To a great extent, Americans have chosen (through their votes and instructions to their legislators -or the abdication of those responsibilities) the health care system we have.

Reform of our system is a constant topic. BUT I've yet to hear of a system that would reduce the costs. At least by very much. Somewhere someone in the system would need to be eliminated or their income reduced. I just don't see that happening in at least my lifetime.
Best that I can suggest is for us to try to control from the consumer side. I take 8 different pills a day. Only 1 is a proprietary drug. Generics are fine to me as long as they produce the desired effect. Being a type 2 diabetic. I use insulin. Not at this time but I have used Walmart's house brand insulin with excellent results. A vial of it lasts me about 5-6 weeks. Fast acting is about $28 a vial. Long acting is about $23 & lasts me 6 weeks. It does not come in a fancy self injecting pen so I buy syringes. They are very cheap & some states don't require a prescription to purchase insulin.
Also, my insurance offers refills by mail. Generics are $7 for 3 months supply. But if you have a Walmart near you. Some of mine are available from them for $10 per 3 month supply. So perhaps you can save some $$ by shopping common generics from Walmart rather than a neighborhood pharmacy.
Just a few ideas to help keep costs down.