Cheating

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Lost Sheep
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Re: Cheating

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:41 pm

Rawness1111 wrote:I was being humorous when i asked the question . but i seriously did want to know from a psychological aspect how men are viewed who have implants from their significant others. Is it more so of an I accept you as you are or is it more of an he can have any woman and I'm lucky sort of view point.

With my SO, it is a bit of both.

Women tend to choose the man, not the penis, so whatever the quality of the penis is, it is the man to whom it is attached that is the significant factor and she accepts (usually whole-heartedly) whatever penis is attached to that man. So it is that most women are programmed, whether by genes, chromosomes or society, I cannot be sure.

My SO, is a bit insecure, knowing that (as has been posted a few times on FrankTalk) that women who know I can keep it up forever will be beating (no pun intended) a path to my bedroom door. (Given my paragraph above, I don't really believe that, but some do believe it.)
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ViaSwiss
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Re: Cheating

Postby ViaSwiss » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
ViaSwiss wrote:If your wife was willing to stick by your side while you had ED, and emotionally support you while you made the decision to implant and recover. Then you're probably pretty trashy to then use that new power to cheat on her.

That would be a judgement call, ViaSwiss. Could it be that his wife's support for her husband included her blessing to find sexual release outside the marriage? There are reasons a woman might give her blessing (one among them is that SHE has lost the ability to enjoy sex with her implanted husband, so chooses not to limit him in that way). As long as he honors her wishes (and did not pressure her into acquiescence) what they choose to do within (and outside) their marital vows (or contract) is up to them and their God(s).

I cannot imagine it, but maybe she likes to watch?


I wouldn't consider it cheating if she asks or gives permission for that to occur.
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Gt1956
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Re: Cheating

Postby Gt1956 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:04 pm

ViaSwiss wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:
ViaSwiss wrote:If your wife was willing to stick by your side while you had ED, and emotionally support you while you made the decision to implant and recover. Then you're probably pretty trashy to then use that new power to cheat on her.

That would be a judgement call, ViaSwiss. Could it be that his wife's support for her husband included her blessing to find sexual release outside the marriage? There are reasons a woman might give her blessing (one among them is that SHE has lost the ability to enjoy sex with her implanted husband, so chooses not to limit him in that way). As long as he honors her wishes (and did not pressure her into acquiescence) what they choose to do within (and outside) their marital vows (or contract) is up to them and their God(s).

I cannot imagine it, but maybe she likes to watch?


I wouldn't consider it cheating if she asks or gives permission for that to occur.

Totally correct. Cheating is a very specific action.
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Re: Cheating

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 pm

Gt1956 wrote:Totally correct. Cheating is a very specific action.

And, by definition, involves some kind of lying or morally questionable behavior towards the one being cheated on. (Even if that someone is onesself, by the way.)
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HardRon
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Re: Cheating

Postby HardRon » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:51 pm

Me and my wife had a conversation on this topic about 6 months after implanting. My wife asked me can I trust you now that you have an enhanced cock and can sleep with whomever you want.
My answer to her was I trust you and you can sleep with whomever you want. Men have always had to trust their women who by nature can have sex any time any place. Just because I can do something does NOT mean I should.
I reassured her I was the same man I was before the implant and all the implant did was make me able to respond to her whenever I wished, and she was still my queen .
She did state though that I would never be able to get rid of a woman after she felt my bionic cock, and she did not want some love starved woman calling our house. I told her she has been by my side for 19years , you don't change horses in the middle of a stream.

I have to add my wife had shown that she totally accepts ME.
Cheat for what!
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Re: Cheating

Postby Rawness1111 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:12 am

I loved how you put your words beautifully. And in my life dealing with women it is hard to find that special someone that will love you as an individual especially when a part of you that shows them love is different than most men. Unconditional love especially for men like us is hard to find. Yes I brought up cheating because the psychy plays a huge role in how a man feels about himself and how he is viewed from others when it comes to being an implanted man which is hugely important. And it may not be a medical question but it still matters hugely. I am so greatful for this site it has given me hope in a world where frankly once your member goes bad I was ready to die. So I take this site and the things that I say very seriously. So for someone that doesn't like any questions that I may have please feel free not to answer them. But I am going to keep asking them in the way that helps me feel better in understanding. Because the psyche whis is also a science is important to me.
32 yrs old. Newly developed ed with divorce and searching for solutions.

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Re: Cheating

Postby newbie443 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:42 pm

When I was married I never cheated. Even when I could and had opportunities. For me I stood up in front of people I knew and promised to be faithful. And I would never have broken that promise unless it was to add to our sexual relationship and with my wife. I am pretty sure my ex did not beleive that and that she did break her promise to be faithful. But even then I still did not because I would not go back on my promise not only to her but to the others. That would have been an injury to my self that I would have had to carry and I would not do that. If she did then she will have that to carry with her forever.

But now that I am single again I have had several lady friends that I had been having sex with at the same time. I do not count that as cheating as I made no promise to be faithful to any of them. Nor did they to me. Not likely that I will make that promise again but if I do it will be the same. But that is just how I am and what I do as it is best for me. And I really do not care if anyone believes that or not. It is for me to know as being true and living with myself.
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Lost Sheep
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Re: Cheating

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:56 pm

newbie443 wrote:When I was married I never cheated. Even when I could and had opportunities. For me I stood up in front of people I knew and promised to be faithful. And I would never have broken that promise unless it was to add to our sexual relationship and with my wife. I am pretty sure my ex did not beleive that and that she did break her promise to be faithful. But even then I still did not because I would not go back on my promise not only to her but to the others. That would have been an injury to my self that I would have had to carry and I would not do that. If she did then she will have that to carry with her forever.

But now that I am single again I have had several lady friends that I had been having sex with at the same time. I do not count that as cheating as I made no promise to be faithful to any of them. Nor did they to me. Not likely that I will make that promise again but if I do it will be the same. But that is just how I am and what I do as it is best for me. And I really do not care if anyone believes that or not. It is for me to know as being true and living with myself.

Ah...but have you made it clear that you are NOT monogamous to each of these women? Just as "silence implies consent", as Cameron Diaz's character in the movie "Vanilla Sky" said, "Your BODY makes a PROMISE!"

Now, that would not hold up before the bar (in a legal court of law), or even in a bar (where liquor and pickups are found), but sexual relationships generate a sense of possession and loyalty. A promise not to injure the other party, a promise to be truthful to the other party, a promise of full disclosure to the other party. It is at least polite to disclose if (and maybe with whom) one is having relationships with.

I am not trying to be a moral judge here, certainly not of any particular person (I am not unblemished in this regard). I am just pointing out an easily overlooked detail. For some people, having sex implies a promise of some kind which does not have to be written or even spoken aloud to be relied upon.
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Re: Cheating

Postby Waynetho » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:03 pm

Unless Newbie has been up front with an NSA agreement with each.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Cheating

Postby barrylandon » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:10 pm

Both my wife and I were divorced from serial cheaters when we met 40 years ago and we vowed to NEVER hurt each other by cheating. I haven't cheated in all of these years and I'm pretty much 100% sure my wife hasn't either. However, after so many years of battling ED and now having a bionic dick with a wife whose sexual appetite has significantly dwindled, I can't say that having the ability to fuck ANY woman is not a recurrent fantasy. I just hope my higher power keeps me from acting on it.

P.S. I'm glad that this subject has been broached because I feel that there's a lot of implanted men out there who have had similar thoughts.
Implanted 5/6/20 by Dr. Jesse Mills at UCLA; AMS 700 LGX 18 cm w/2 cm RTEs. I'm 76 & fit but had ED for 20 years. Pills/injections ultimately failed, including 3 ER trips for Priapism; Shockwave & embryonic stem cell therapies didn't help either.


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