Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

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frwmw1
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Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby frwmw1 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:34 am

I notice in YouTube videos and photos on this board, in some implant surgeries, the surgeon threads a suture through the distal end of the cavernosum, into through the glans, and uses this to pull the cylinder into place.

This creates what looks like "snake eyes" on the head of the penis, which later heals.

However, in other surgeries, this is not performed.

Why is this, and what are pro's and con's as well as reasons of doing this or not doing this?
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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby Waynetho » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:10 am

Malleable rods do not need to be pulled into the penis. Only inflatable cylinders are so flexible or floppy that they would need assistance in getting them into the tip of the penis.

If a surgeon is inserting inflatables without using the sutures in the tips of the implants, this may be responsible for some floppy glans out there...
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby frwmw1 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:17 am

I see, so it's always done for an inflatable? Going through the videos it seems I have missed it, or it was edited out.
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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:15 am

I've watched several dozen inflatable implant surgery videos. In every one of them, the implant was pulled into place. Some men don't have as noticeable snake eyes as other men. But they are there.
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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby WhiteCane » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:22 am

Basically, the doctor does this to ensure he gets the most distal implant he possibly can… By pulling it up, it kind of ensures that it is there… I can tell you that with my first implant, I didn’t notice the snake eyes at all but, on my second implant, the surgeon actually used some liquid stitches to ensure no problems… The girlfriend had eyes on them and didn’t ask me about it for a couple of days after surgery… she said that there weren’t any scabs on the head of my penis after the first one…
Implanted October 2019 Dr. Kramer lgx 18 cm +2 rear tips. Preop at 6.75 post op 5.25... awaiting revision… Implanted for possibility of having our first child.

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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby frwmw1 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:40 am

Thanks for the replies and advice.
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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby alfa88 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:15 am

I didn't want to get too freaked out before my surgery so I only saw the 1st few seconds of the video. The day after I got the wraps, drain and catheter removed and saw the spots. It was if a vampire had given me a blow job :roll: That's when I watched the rest of the video
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results, VED. Implanted w/AMS700CX 21cm X 12mm w/1.5cm RTE by Dr. Leroy Jones 9/1/20

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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby barrylandon » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:31 am

When I first noticed the two red splotches on my glans, I thought it was a Balanitis or Candida rash, something I've had a few times in the past. However, when it didn't clear up after several weeks of applying the medicated cream I was prescribed for the rash, I asked my surgeon about it. Although he told me the marks were from "sutures", he didn't explain why they were necessary and...uh...I didn't ask. So, thank you Bionic Brothers for enlightening me about this. It confirmed what I believed was a perfect placement of the cylinders !! :)
Implanted 5/6/20 by Dr. Jesse Mills at UCLA; AMS 700 LGX 18 cm w/2 cm RTEs. I'm 76 & fit but had ED for 20 years. Pills/injections ultimately failed, including 3 ER trips for Priapism; Shockwave & embryonic stem cell therapies didn't help either.

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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby brickbat » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:11 am

Yikes. You men discussing sutures in your glans with implant surgery gives me the hebee jeebees.

Is there scarring at those spots and is there a loss of sensation at those spots on your glans????

I understand that they are needed to position the cylinders into the glans, but what is the downside of those sutures in each of you men who are responding to this thread and others who want to chime in on your experiences with these glans sutures.

I hope you will tell us that there is NO downside.

Thanks men.
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Re: Why do some surgeries have "snake eyes" and others do not?

Postby Waynetho » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:25 pm

brickbat wrote:Yikes. You men discussing sutures in your glans with implant surgery gives me the hebee jeebees.

Is there scarring at those spots and is there a loss of sensation at those spots on your glans????

I understand that they are needed to position the cylinders into the glans, but what is the downside of those sutures in each of you men who are responding to this thread and others who want to chime in on your experiences with these glans sutures.

I hope you will tell us that there is NO downside.

Thanks men.


No, there was never any pain or soreness from the suture holes. They're only used DURING surgery to facility proper placement of the tips and afterward the suture thread is removed and everything heals naturally. Mine never even had any soreness or pain at all outside of the normal healing of the entire area. I don't believe this had any affect on my sensitivity either since most of my numbness was on the ventral side (underside) below the glans, not the glans itself.

Snake-eyes from one day after my 10/28 surgery (10/29/2019):
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Day-6 image from above, showing bruising on glans:
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Day 25 inflated (dorsal side) - no bruising on the glans:
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62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0


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