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Well, even though I do have a background in research many years ago, I tend to take a more pragmatic view most of the time. Not sure why this is not enough. To me it is. If one implant model can withstand higher force in a lab than another model - then why can't that simply be enough evidence that it will in a dick as well?
Why would it not?
You say that with increasing pressure the difference in hardness will decrease. Yes, that's exactly what their data showed and what I referred to in my post. But there was still a very notable difference at high pressure as well.
Don't over complicate things.
If you need data on how the hardness differs when the implant is in a dick and the dick is in a vagina - then there would be now way to prove that a steel rod is stiffer than a cotton string. How the F would you test the hardness of a dick in a vagina? Or rather, how would you, even if it was theoretically possible, make the study happen?
Keep it simple...

Regarding the implant's ability to withstand force from above, i.e. the ability to maintain the angle even when exposed to force from above - the bath towel test in simple wording - I have seen a very simple study of that as well. I think Eid was one of the doctors doing the study. It was never published if I remember right, but presented on a conference.
It showed that the LGX kinked at a lower force than the Titan.

Then you have both Eid (on his webpage) and Kramer (in a video available at Youtube) saying that a Titan is harder when inflated and an AMs is softer when deflated.

So what more do we need? To me it is proven that a Titan is harder.
The big question is: Does it matter?
As I said before, many here report they don't even pump their AMS implants to full. They think it gets too hard. , Obviously, to them the extra hardness of a Titan would be completely useless since they don't even utilize the maximum level of the AMS.
But for someone like me, who pump my Titan to the limit and love it - clearly there is a huge risk I would find an AMS too soft.

Always about finding the right tool for the right user and usage.

merrix wrote:(edited for focus)
The big question is: Does it matter?
As I said before, many here report they don't even pump their AMS implants to full. They think it gets too hard. , Obviously, to them the extra hardness of a Titan would be completely useless since they don't even utilize the maximum level of the AMS.
But for someone like me, who pump my Titan to the limit and love it - clearly there is a huge risk I would find an AMS too soft.

Always about finding the right tool for the right user and usage.

I may be hypersensitive about the hardness/rigidity issue. My girlfriend has never complained that my (AMS-implanted erection) is too hard, but she likes it pumped up as full as I can get it. So, I wonder, "If it were harder, would she like it better?" In other words, I cannot know where the boundary (the dividing line between less than optimal rigidity and more than optimal rigidity) is unless I go beyond it at least once. With my AMS LGX I never have gotten beyond that boundary for her. So, I continue to wonder.

Some might suggest I obsess, so please forgive me if my curiosity is irritating. I lack the wherewithal to to conduct my own research (neither of us would like the idea of either of us experimenting with other partners for comparison.)

There are so many variables. Starting with the sexual partner. Then there is the condition of the man's tunica and its ability to use the saline pressure inside the implant to contribute to rigidity, if any. Add the fact that the Titan's larger diameter will give greater rigidity (except for the inherent elasticity of the bioflex material, which the AMS material, I believe, does not have). And other factors I know nothing of or forgot to include. Perhaps the discussion of ultimate rigidity is a fool's errand. But then, I have worn the foolscap before, so am experienced in that area.

Some excellent clues could be gained from some honest female feedback on the desirability of a solid vibrator. But if a guy was to look at the size & hardness of the Bad Dragon toys it would throw all of our ideas out the window.


I can hear the Googling start already. I hope that you guys are sitting down. Oh wait. Maybe sitting isn't the best place.

I see, hardness of Titan might be important for guys involved in one night stand and having wild sex very often. Titan might withstand wild sex and Kama Sutra positions probably better then CX and LGX.
For me, hardness of Titan does not play any role.
I have sex only with my wife and we never use more then 60-70% inflated.
Anything above 70% becomes very uncomfortable and kills sensations.
If I new thise about Titan, I would never accept it.
MK

Ya, if the wife doesn't like it you are just wasting your time pumping it to max.
All this makes me curious how this will go at my house. As ED slowly set in. My wife would occasionally mention that I had a "hard one". The tone in her voice led me to believe that it was a good thing to have.
Btw, my comment about a ridgid vibrator feedback wouldn't work for us. She wants the real deal.

Gt1956 wrote:Ya, if the wife doesn't like it you are just wasting your time pumping it to max.
All this makes me curious how this will go at my house. As ED slowly set in. My wife would occasionally mention that I had a "hard one". The tone in her voice led me to believe that it was a good thing to have.
Btw, my comment about a ridgid vibrator feedback wouldn't work for us. She wants the real deal.

Yep.

Mae West's paraphrase of the saying "A good man is hard to find." comes to mind. "A hard man is good to find."

Lost Sheep wrote:

Gt1956 wrote:Ya, if the wife doesn't like it you are just wasting your time pumping it to max.
All this makes me curious how this will go at my house. As ED slowly set in. My wife would occasionally mention that I had a "hard one". The tone in her voice led me to believe that it was a good thing to have.
Btw, my comment about a ridgid vibrator feedback wouldn't work for us. She wants the real deal.

Yep.
Mae West's paraphrase of the saying "A good man is hard to find." comes to mind. "A hard man is good to find."

America is full of those kind of gags. Most have a bit of truth to them.
George Burns used to say that he was asked why he didn't date women his own age? Because there isn't any my age.
Samuel Clemens was reputed to of said that a woman of 50 (I think) can be proficient at sex while a man of that age just fumbles along.
Of course the classic saying for my generation. It now takes me all night to do what I used to do all night.
Anybody got other sayings?
You gotta love the truthful but painful humor in life.

Gt1956 wrote:

Lost Sheep wrote:

Gt1956 wrote:Ya, if the wife doesn't like it you are just wasting your time pumping it to max.
All this makes me curious how this will go at my house. As ED slowly set in. My wife would occasionally mention that I had a "hard one". The tone in her voice led me to believe that it was a good thing to have.
Btw, my comment about a ridgid vibrator feedback wouldn't work for us. She wants the real deal.

Yep.
Mae West's paraphrase of the saying "A good man is hard to find." comes to mind. "A hard man is good to find."

America is full of those kind of gags. Most have a bit of truth to them.

GAGS! Funny! Know where my mind went!

Gt1956 wrote:You gotta love the truthful but painful humor in life.

Sex has three stages as you grow older.

Teenagers: Tri-weekly
Prime of life: Try weekly
Middle-age/older: Try weakly

I googled using "mae west sayings". To those that never got into old movies or are too young for when they played the old stuff as daily matinee's. Her stuff is great
George Burns hit a few home runs also.
He told the story of his wife (Gracia Allen) finding some condoms. He didn't use them at home. So big mistake. She never said anything. But he took her shopping & bought a huge ring (as I remember the story). Gracie never said a word & all was good. One day Gracie was rumoured to tell a girlfriend that George should fool around again. This ring is really nice. Slide forward 50 years. Was it Kobe Bryant or Tiger Woods that ended up buying a boulder diamond ring to smooth over some act of indiscretion?