Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

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Biker60
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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby Biker60 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:49 am

I really can’t remember. But the titan makes a wide oval shape. My surgeon did not do a rotor router on my copra so I still have blow flow. It has definitely expanded more girth then length. But I cycle all the time. Probably after 6 months it won’t make a difference with capsule formation.

Lost Sheep
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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:50 pm

merrix wrote:It is proven by multiple studies that a fully inflated Titan is harder than a fully inflated LGX. This is a fact.

Merrix, I would thank you if you would provide citations (or links) to those studies, please.
Lost Sheep
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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby merrix » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:21 am

Lost Sheep wrote:
merrix wrote:It is proven by multiple studies that a fully inflated Titan is harder than a fully inflated LGX. This is a fact.

Merrix, I would thank you if you would provide citations (or links) to those studies, please.



Here is one.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/

But it's quite easy to google hardness, kink, axial loading, penile implant and there will be more.
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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:30 pm

merrix wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:
merrix wrote:It is proven by multiple studies that a fully inflated Titan is harder than a fully inflated LGX. This is a fact.

Merrix, I would thank you if you would provide citations (or links) to those studies, please.



Here is one.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/

But it's quite easy to google hardness, kink, axial loading, penile implant and there will be more.

Yes, I did that. Read all I could find. The one you cite is ex-vivo. Rigidity inside a man inside a woman is the measure I am most interested in.

And not just stiffness of the implant, but also stability of the angle of the erection, a factor mentioned less often.

Yes, the uninflated Titan is stiffer than either standard AMS device. But the stiffness provided by the inflation pressure soon overwhelms that residual stiffness. In other words, if a stiffness level of an uninflated Titan is "2" and the stiffness level of an AMS is "1", and the stiffness added by the pressure of inflation adds stiffness level of "19" more, the stiffness of the INFLATED Titan would be "21" and the stiffness level of the AMS, "20", a difference of only 5%. And if the AMS could be safely inflated to a higher pressure than the Titan, the AMS could actually be stiffer in use than the Titan. Now, this is speculation. A thought-experiment which I have not found conducted in real life anywhere.

Have you? Please, I really am interested in getting to the truth of the matter.

Thank you, Merrix for your zeal in keeping Franktalk (and me) on track to the benefit of all men (and women) who would benefit from reliable knowledge rather than my speculations.
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Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017 Dr Shaw.
READ OLD THREADS to ask better questions and better understand answers.
Make yourself part of your medical team.
Document your current penile size: photos and written records.
Pre-op V.E.D. therapy helps.

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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby LookingUp » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:54 pm

Rear Tip Extenders and Penile Prosthesis Rigidity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358419/

I highly doubt volunteers could be found to fornicate while wearing pressure sensors.
Kinky? Yes. Fun? NO.
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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:07 pm

LookingUp wrote:Rear Tip Extenders and Penile Prosthesis Rigidity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358419/

I highly doubt volunteers could be found to fornicate while wearing pressure sensors.
Kinky? Yes. Fun? NO.

Fun? It would depend, I suppose on just HOW kinky you and your partner are.

More seriously, I note this paragraph from the study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358419/, entitled: Rear Tip Extenders and Penile Prosthesis Rigidity: A Laboratory Study of Coloplast Prostheses. wrote:The ability of our in vivo model to predict in vivo needs, which are much more variable, is unknown. May factors could affect the axial bending of implants in vivo, including the formation of a pseudocapsule, differences in the tunica, how much patients inflate their prosthesis, and the exact size of the individual patient’s implant. The pressure or resistance to axial bending that is noticeable to patients is unknown, and likely varies significantly from patient to patient.

Hence the difficulty I have in finding Merrix's source material. I suspect there may be no significant studies in the literature. That leaves us with speculations.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017 Dr Shaw.
READ OLD THREADS to ask better questions and better understand answers.
Make yourself part of your medical team.
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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby Waynetho » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:36 pm

LookingUp wrote:Rear Tip Extenders and Penile Prosthesis Rigidity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358419/

I highly doubt volunteers could be found to fornicate while wearing pressure sensors.
Kinky? Yes. Fun? NO.


I don't know, they found people who were willing to have sex with cameras attached to or inserted inside their genitalia so nobody can be certain about what some might be willing to do.
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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby Gt1956 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:38 pm

Lostsheep, this rigidity thing is all fine & dandy. But, what is the rigidity of the top tier men's penise's (peni?) And what is the average man able to muster up? Honestly, in my one voice opinion. All of that becomes angels dancing on the head of a pin analogy. If the best any man can get is say a rating of 10. Do we really need to argue about a 20 VS a 19 rating.
Again, my opinion only. The important info is lacking. The best natural mens rating is I think the standard to measure implants by.
Not picking on you but you seems to like research & are reasonably good at it. Your mission, should you decide to accept it. Is to research how hard mens penises can get.
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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:44 pm

Gt1956 wrote:Lostsheep, this rigidity thing is all fine & dandy. But, what is the rigidity of the top tier men's penise's (peni?) And what is the average man able to muster up? Honestly, in my one voice opinion. All of that becomes angels dancing on the head of a pin analogy. If the best any man can get is say a rating of 10. Do we really need to argue about a 20 VS a 19 rating.
Again, my opinion only. The important info is lacking. The best natural mens rating is I think the standard to measure implants by.
Not picking on you but you seems to like research & are reasonably good at it. Your mission, should you decide to accept it. Is to research how hard mens penises can get.
Couldn't resist the old television line.

"Mission Impossible" I will accept the assignment, "Mission (how) Hard?"
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017 Dr Shaw.
READ OLD THREADS to ask better questions and better understand answers.
Make yourself part of your medical team.
Document your current penile size: photos and written records.
Pre-op V.E.D. therapy helps.

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Re: Decision time, living with AMS or Titan

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:47 pm

Waynetho wrote:I don't know, they found people who were willing to have sex with cameras attached to or inserted inside their genitalia so nobody can be certain about what some might be willing to do.

The cameras were OK, but the flash bulbs were distracting and Klieg lights (carbon arc) generate a LOT of heat!
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017 Dr Shaw.
READ OLD THREADS to ask better questions and better understand answers.
Make yourself part of your medical team.
Document your current penile size: photos and written records.
Pre-op V.E.D. therapy helps.


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