Traction devise?

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Jato1229
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Traction devise?

Postby Jato1229 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:47 pm

Hey guys I’m planning on getting implant by DR Kramer in few monthes. My question is should I use a traction devise from now till surgery to gain length before the surgery? I have VERY bad Peroni‘s disease and lost about 3inches.

Waynetho
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Re: Traction devise?

Postby Waynetho » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:05 pm

If you're referring to RestoreX then that may be useful but expensive. It uses reverse-bending of a curve to accomplish a stretching of the plaques but I'm not sure it is totally effective. One of the "CLAMP and PULL" type traction devices that lasso your glans to stretch your dick probably won't work. All it did for me is make my skin of my dick sore (the skin tried to stretch).

As long as you're not badly bent though, the doctor should be able to install the implant and model your curves (break the plaques) and give you decent results even without traction.

I had about a 45 degree up curve when I was implanted on 10/28/19 and today I'm arrow-straight with at least as much length as I had going in, and even more (I max out between 5.5-6.0 and I was a short 5.0 on the date of surgery). I still refer to my length as 5-ish because it depends on how full I pump, how aroused I am (yes, some shaft and glans engorgement) and how hard I press against the pubic bone to get my measurement. Problem is, if I'm aroused enough to get maximum length readings, I've probably got other things on my mind besides checking out my own length.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

Skier123
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Re: Traction devise?

Postby Skier123 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:38 pm

Jato,

My doctor recommended I use one prior to surgery, so I did. He has done at least one peer reviewed study showing some success in lengthening and straightening of the curve with the use of such a device.

The problem is it takes a long time to work. I used mine regularly (every day) for about 6 months prior to surgery, and I have no idea if it did any good. I suppose it might have made some small difference in length, but I never really kept track of my measurements so who knows? There are studies out there that show length gain of 1-2 cm with extended use (more than 6 months.)

The implant itself + modeling during surgery can usually straighten out the curve itself. Mine did.

I'd suggest asking your surgeon and follow his or her advice.
54 yr old single guy
Severe ED for over10 years; diagnosed with peyrones and venous leak
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SW0110
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Re: Traction devise?

Postby SW0110 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:17 pm

I used both traction and ved. I would say both helped me.
18 cm plus 1 rte titan installed March 2019. Revision March 2020 by Dr. Andrew Todd, Richmond KY. He replaced the titan with an AMS 700 LGX 18 cm cylinder plus 2 rte for 20 cm total length.

Lost Sheep
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Re: Traction devise?

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:21 pm

Jato1229 wrote:Hey guys I’m planning on getting implant by DR Kramer in few monthes. My question is should I use a traction devise from now till surgery to gain length before the surgery? I have VERY bad Peroni‘s disease and lost about 3inches.

In my opinion, a vacuum erection device (VED) is superior to a traction device. It flushes blood through the tissues, Perhaps not as well as erections do, but something is better than nothing. It also stretches all the tissues subjected to the vacuum, caversnosum spongiosum, veins, arteries, all of it in all directions that a natural erection does. Traction device only pulls one direction.

The one contraindicator I can think of is if your Peyronies disease does not allow you to use a VED.

There are a couple of protocols for a regimen of stretching with VED. 60 days pre-op appears to be the minimum for optimal results, though even two weeks show positive results.
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GRKinPDX
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Re: Traction devise?

Postby GRKinPDX » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:52 am

My Dr advised me to use restorex in preparation for implantation, which is needed due to pretty severe peyronies. I’ve been actively using restorex for just under three months. I measure every day..so far I’ve gained half an inch flaccid length (Bone pressed). I can’t really tell if the curve has improved or not, but if I’m able to get at least half an inch more in length after surgery, then it was worth the $500.
49 years old. Have had Peyronies since 39. Plication surgery 2014, but was not successful. Pills for increasing ED. Titan implanted October 2020.

LuisFernandez
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Re: Traction devise?

Postby LuisFernandez » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:51 pm

I'd say there is no reason at all not to use it. I would even suggest to be more aggressive on it and do 90 mins a day with higher than normal tension.

The standard protocol is to use a heat pad prior to each traction session.
You can also do VED twice a day 20 minutes each session after traction.

This can maximize your results. I personally would recommend the RestoreX device.

EDIT: looks like you've had graft surgery, in that case ask your doctor before doing anything as it may hurt the graft incisions.

Good luck.
Born 1986. ED. Peyronie's.
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Jato1229
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Re: Traction devise?

Postby Jato1229 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:21 pm

The surgery made me worse. Now it’s even super hard to have a orgasm when possible.

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Re: Traction devise?

Postby Waynetho » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:53 pm

Jato1229 wrote:The surgery made me worse. Now it’s even super hard to have a orgasm when possible.


Neither traction nor VED will give you back the ability to orgasm. That will take time. The fact that you were degloved behind the corona of the glans means that you will likely be numb in the penile skin there for some time to come. I'm numb in the underside of my penis, especially between my dick and balls. I was numb just below and behind the head but it's getting better.

Give it some time and the sensitivity may come back sufficiently to at least orgasm reliably through self-pleasuring. I personally am 9 months since my surgery which wasn't as damaging to the nerves as yours was and I've only cum once in my wife, several weeks ago.

If you need to get the implant and you've healed enough to warrant a second surgery, I'd suggest getting it done sooner rather than later so that you are recovering, sensation-wise from both surgeries together instead of each one consecutively which I think would just prolong your anorgasmia.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

Jato1229
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Re: Traction devise?

Postby Jato1229 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:47 pm

So you are 9 monthes post surgery ( what kind of surgery) and had 1 orgasm since then?


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