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using google i have seen that most people get 5-6 ecections at night lasting 30 mins which maintains penis health. I find this hard to believe can anyone get me a right awnser. i Have hard flacid from PFS. and depending on days some good days some bad days i can get morning wood. How can someone make sure they get nocturnal erection and for how long.
I have bought the bath mate but its no use since HF doesnt allow me to use it properly. i try to get an erection manual stimulation for 10 mins each day is that enough for my penis health. some sites also claim guys get 11 erections a day and more at night finding facts a bit confusing please help me if anyone has some info about these.
Also im waiting for sometime if not resolved i will go for the Implant.
Facts Erections while sleeping.
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Facts Erections while sleeping.
PFS- from september 2019 ( 7- Days of Propecia Tablets)
24 years old
Hard Flacid syndrome
Under supervision of Dr. Mohit Khera.
Doing Physical therapy since December 2019
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Hard Flacid syndrome
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Re: Facts Erections while sleeping.
There is a medical monitor that consists of a stretch-sensor and a device that can be worn while sleeping. It is usually prescribed by Urologists as an overnight test to determine just what you're asking.
The loop goes over the penis and is pumped up until it is snug but not tight. Then it is held in place so it won't slip. The subject goes to bed and sleeps normally. The device records the erection quality, as well as duration and frequency all night long.
The loop goes over the penis and is pumped up until it is snug but not tight. Then it is held in place so it won't slip. The subject goes to bed and sleeps normally. The device records the erection quality, as well as duration and frequency all night long.
64yo, married 43 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0
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Re: Facts Erections while sleeping.
Bangkok12 wrote:Hello
using google i have seen that most people get 5-6 ecections at night lasting 30 mins which maintains penis health. I find this hard to believe can anyone get me a right awnser. i Have hard flacid from PFS. and depending on days some good days some bad days i can get morning wood. How can someone make sure they get nocturnal erection and for how long.
I have bought the bath mate but its no use since HF doesnt allow me to use it properly. i try to get an erection manual stimulation for 10 mins each day is that enough for my penis health. some sites also claim guys get 11 erections a day and more at night finding facts a bit confusing please help me if anyone has some info about these.
Also im waiting for sometime if not resolved i will go for the Implant.
Getting blood flow through your penile tissues to keep them oxygenated is (reportedly) what nighttime/nocturnal erections main benefit is. I also opine that the stretching of penile tissues keeps them elastic and flexible. This is also important to maintain penis size.
It is generally thought that for men who no longer get nocturnal erections or, for that matter, daytime erections spontaneously or otherwise, benefit from using a Vacuum Erection Device (VED) for 30 minutes a day twice a day. The protocol I favor is a minute or so at full vacuum/erection, then release to full flaccid for 30 seconds (or however long it takes to get flaccid) and repeat 20 times. Twice a day.
The bathmate should work. have you talked to the manufacturer to see if they have advice or a fix? What is it that seems to make it not work for you?
Are your erections you get currently as full as they were before E.D.? If so, you probably can get by without a VED. To find out if you get nocturnal erections you can have a study by your doctor while you sleep or accomplish much the same result by a home-made method. Wrap a piece of paper around your flaccid penis and tape it securely. It should have a cut in the paper such that if you get an erection, the paper will come apart. Sleep on your back or side so you won't accidentally tear the paper without an erection. This will not tell you if you have multiple nocturnal erections, but at least one. (Edited to add, after I read Waynetho's post which he posted while I was typing my response: Yes, that's the device. Not unlike a blood pressure measuring device.)
I think, if you can get a full erection with masturbation or sexual thoughts, you are still getting nocturnal erections. This was the case with me up until the last year before I got an implant. I could get full hardness and size with oral medication and lots of stimulation but remove either one from the equation and the erections were not so large or rigid. They never would last very long either, but that had been going on for a couple decades. When the erections would not get full, I added a VED to my life and began seeking more radical help (implant). 14 months of VED therapy kept my size and elasticity and with my implant, I lost no size.
You posted in the "Implants" section. You might consider posting in the "General Discussion" or "Pumps (Vacuum Erection Device)" sections. While the "Implants" section has a lot more traffic, the other sections may have people who could give you better advice on your particular questions.
I encourage you to consider carefully before you elect an implant. It does not cure impotence/E.D. It makes it worse. It guarantees you will never ever again have a natural erection for the rest of your life and you will be dependent on the implant forever. The other treatments are reversible (and cheaper and less risky of disasters). If a TRUE cure came along tomorrow, it could help men with E.D., but for implanted men, it would be too late since the surgery renders organic erections impossible (except in extremely rare instances).
Good luck.
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Re: Facts Erections while sleeping.
Thank you very much for a reply. I am 10 months since this mess since its a PFS condition my last resort will be an implant. I dont mind living with it for the rest for my life. I have lost a 7 years relation ship trauma and mentally a total changed person. I willl give my condition some time. Could you tell me what VED device you used. MY erections are like hollow and takes a lot of manual stimulation and as soon as i stand up the erection is not there any more. i am really yound turning 24 in a few months and the only thing that goes around my head is in somewhat future i get the implant rater it be now. Thanks for your kind reply it means a lot starting to suffer every day and pray to GOD with an open heart to show me the right path. This all came of a sudden to its hard to take in never had problems with ED before. so the trauma does leave a mark but i guess im getting as strong as steel in my mind. Please let me know the VED device that has helped you.
As for the Hard flacid it stays so hard in a flacid state while standing the bathmate cant pull in the blood. I can even do a stretch test cause the flacid state is so hard. will try the bath mate lyr=ing down in a bath but scared of injury
Thank you
As for the Hard flacid it stays so hard in a flacid state while standing the bathmate cant pull in the blood. I can even do a stretch test cause the flacid state is so hard. will try the bath mate lyr=ing down in a bath but scared of injury
Thank you
PFS- from september 2019 ( 7- Days of Propecia Tablets)
24 years old
Hard Flacid syndrome
Under supervision of Dr. Mohit Khera.
Doing Physical therapy since December 2019
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Hard Flacid syndrome
Under supervision of Dr. Mohit Khera.
Doing Physical therapy since December 2019
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Re: Facts Erections while sleeping.
When I posted my first reply, I did not understand what HFS really was (Hard Flaccid Syndrome) or its causes and symptoms. I gave it a lay interpretation.
Having read more about it, I think I understand now about why your Bathmate brand VED does not work. (And your thought about doing damage by trying to hard is valid.) I speculate that your pelvic muscles in contraction interfere. If that is the case, teaching them to relax might help. But that is a speculation, also. I do know that pelvic muscle exercise can increase your control over those muscles, not only in tightening them, but in relaxing them as well. Kegel exercises and things like that.
I assume you have spoken to a urologist who is familiar with the condition. Your current Doctor might benefit from a consult with a specialist if he is not deeply familiar. If you have, what conclusions or speculations did that give you?
Have you had a prostate exam and PSA levels in your blood checked? Prostatitis or other prostate condidtions may have a relationship with HFS.
I used an Encore, as I recall. Manual pump, no vacuum gauge. Not a water-based pump like the Bathmate, just air.
Having read more about it, I think I understand now about why your Bathmate brand VED does not work. (And your thought about doing damage by trying to hard is valid.) I speculate that your pelvic muscles in contraction interfere. If that is the case, teaching them to relax might help. But that is a speculation, also. I do know that pelvic muscle exercise can increase your control over those muscles, not only in tightening them, but in relaxing them as well. Kegel exercises and things like that.
I assume you have spoken to a urologist who is familiar with the condition. Your current Doctor might benefit from a consult with a specialist if he is not deeply familiar. If you have, what conclusions or speculations did that give you?
Have you had a prostate exam and PSA levels in your blood checked? Prostatitis or other prostate condidtions may have a relationship with HFS.
I used an Encore, as I recall. Manual pump, no vacuum gauge. Not a water-based pump like the Bathmate, just air.
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Lost Sheep
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Re: Facts Erections while sleeping.
Bangkok12 wrote:Hello
using google i have seen that most people get 5-6 ecections at night lasting 30 mins which maintains penis health. I find this hard to believe can anyone get me a right awnser. i Have hard flacid from PFS. and depending on days some good days some bad days i can get morning wood. How can someone make sure they get nocturnal erection and for how long.
I have bought the bath mate but its no use since HF doesnt allow me to use it properly. i try to get an erection manual stimulation for 10 mins each day is that enough for my penis health. some sites also claim guys get 11 erections a day and more at night finding facts a bit confusing please help me if anyone has some info about these.
Also im waiting for sometime if not resolved i will go for the Implant.
This link is to a paper that discusses HFS (Hard Flaccid Syndrome) and seems to match your description very closely. I suggest reading it and following the links it has.
https://www.urologynews.uk.com/features ... d-syndrome
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
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Re: Facts Erections while sleeping.
My doctors have drawn up all the tests checked my scrotum prostate did an exam put me in different machines and said its all fine. I did a penile valcular exam and the doctor said its fine not sure if its the same test they do for venous leak. i guess propecia messsed up my pelvic muscles and prostate hard to tell but from what i can tell is mostly a pelvic floor dysfunction. i will talk to my doctor about the venous leak test as well because its hard to keep and maintain the erection.
PFS- from september 2019 ( 7- Days of Propecia Tablets)
24 years old
Hard Flacid syndrome
Under supervision of Dr. Mohit Khera.
Doing Physical therapy since December 2019
24 years old
Hard Flacid syndrome
Under supervision of Dr. Mohit Khera.
Doing Physical therapy since December 2019
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Re: Facts Erections while sleeping.
Bangkok12 wrote:My doctors have drawn up all the tests checked my scrotum prostate did an exam put me in different machines and said its all fine. I did a penile valcular exam and the doctor said its fine not sure if its the same test they do for venous leak. i guess propecia messsed up my pelvic muscles and prostate hard to tell but from what i can tell is mostly a pelvic floor dysfunction. i will talk to my doctor about the venous leak test as well because its hard to keep and maintain the erection.
Did you do the sleep test while wearing the stretch sensor I spoke of. That one will tell you whether you get erections at night, how strong they are, how frequently you get them overnight and the duration of each one.
They normally have you take the device home and wear it for a night or two and then bring it back and collect the data.
64yo, married 43 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0
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