Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

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Cnidium
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Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby Cnidium » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:32 pm

Hey everyone,

I think its been over 2 years since I have posted. Quick recap - implanted when I was 27 in Oct of 2017 by Dr. Eid, 25cm Tital +1rte.

Everything has been great, and still is, mostly. Once I started having sex after 3rd week of surgery (so ~ Halloween 2017), my penis was straight, even, and the tips were both 3/4 of the way though my penis head. Furthermore, it took about 40-50 pumps to get maximally inflated, and there would be noticeable pressure in my head. Sex was/is great. I could inflate it discreetly, quickly, and nothing was noticeable.

However, since about May 2019, there has been a slight and increasing deterioration in the quality of a few things. Firstly, my penis isn't as straight anymore, it noticeably curves to the left more than it ever has. Also, my penis head most obviously curves to the left. It took me a few months to figure out why since I had mostly stopped exploring my dick post-surgery a long time ago. I have come to find that the left cylinder tip is now noticeably shorter than the right when inflated (and slightly so when deflated). I would say that when inflated the right cylinder tip goes about 3/4 into my head, while the left only goes 1/4. This will cause my penis head to flop to the left if there is uneven pressure applied to my penis.

Next, looking near the base of my penis, there is a noticeable indentation on the left size, which causes my penis to emerge my torso in a straight line for about .5", then abruptly bend left. Looking at the underside of my penis, it seems appearant that the left cylinder is not inflating all the way at that bend (or is being restricted).

I cant deploy as many pumps as before either. I may do 25 now before the pump gets rock hard, and I dont think its because my penis has been stretched out by the implant over time. My penis looks to be the same size as ever (I purposely didn't keep track of my length post-op because I don't want to worry about such things). However, I think the pump is becoming hard because the left cylinder wont inflate past a certain point, as noted at the bend I described in the previous paragraph.

And lastly, the pump will pump indefinitely (but without transferring any fluid from the resevoir to the cylinders) if I dont pull up on it a little. Ie, if I reach my arms all the way down and pump at the place where the pump naturally hangs, it will pump about to 1/2 way and then stop inflating. However, if I pull the pump up and slightly closer to my body, then I can pump to 'max'.

These changes have been gradual over the last 10 months, and sex is still great. My girlfriend has said she has not noticed anything different in terms of quality of sex and the feeling of me inside her. She did agree with me, once I pointed it out, that my head seems really out of line, the indentation at the base of my penis, and the my dick in general just seems more to the left.

There is one thing I think may have caused this. There was a period of ~2 months in early 2019 where I didn't inflate it at all. I do not masturbate, ever. And I was so focused on work that I didn't have sex for 2 months, I was doing 70-80hr weeks. I had confirmed multiple times with Eid and his staff if there would be any consequence of not inflating for long periods of time, and they had told that I could go as long as I wanted without inflating after I finished my post-op cycling. That being said, I just have a sneaking suspicion that it was the lack of cycling for 2 months that may be the culprit. IIRC I did have band of scaring at the left base of my penis, so maybe it just kind of molded to the deflated penis over a 2 month time. On the other hand, Eid said this wouldnt happen, and I think ive read multiple guys here not inflate for long periods of time and nothing bad happened.

I am not looking to take immediate action. Im getting great value out of the implant still, and I would like to keep focused on my work right now. On the other hand, I am concerned that there may be a gradual worsening of my implant over time, and that it may be an intelligent decision to take action before a certain threshold of deterioration is reached in order to prevent more permanent or serious damage.

I can't say I remember ever reading anyone on this forum having problems quite like this, so I understand if there isn't much help out there. I would also like to not bother my surgeon unless its necessary. Right now I am currently pumping up for 30mins a day, and will do so for 1-2 months to see if things 'straighten out'.

Thank you for your time and advice,

Cnidium.
Titan OTR. Dr. Hakky - successful surgery and very happy with outcome.
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Re: Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby 68CatFan » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:10 pm

From reading the various posts my impression of Dr. Eid is that he's extremely helpful and concerned about his patients. Call him first thing tomorrow and ask.
Fifty-one years old. ED started at age forty. I took Cialis for eight years and used Trimix for almost three. Implanted 12/6/22 by Dr. Jonathan Clavell. AMS 700CX 21cm.

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Re: Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby thereishope » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:16 am

Hey Cnidium.... Hopefully you won't have any issues contacting your doctor, if you decide to do so because of the covid situation.

As for the problem... There is a member here that has had the implant for years but does not use it during sex, and inflates it like once or twice a year and he has no problems. Sometimes the devices develop issues on their own, and hopefully it's not the case. I am trying to picture what you wrote, but it's hard without a picture. I will try to re-read tomorrow.

Out of suggestions man. :x

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Postby Old Guy » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:10 pm

Yea I would email Dr. Eid with that question. From what I've read here he is super at getting back to his patients and will work with them. Hopefully it's not a re-do. That is my biggest fear, failure and having to do the surgery over.
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Re: Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby Waynetho » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:57 pm

Cnidium, you may have just developed a kink in the tubing since you say if you hold it a certain way you can pump to maximum but not otherwise. If you've developed a kinked tube, you might want to pump it up a bit and then bend UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT, push IN and pull OUT and repeat this a couple of times.

These steps are found on AMS instructions but since it's good common sense troubleshooting steps, it should apply equally to either the AMS or Titan products.

What this does is sort of redistributes the tubes, pulling where they are kinked up and may actually make things work better and more reliably for you. It really can't hurt to try this. You might want to try the same steps with different levels of inflation because it may not clear up things if done at 25% but say a 50-75% it may have enough resistance to help the tubing move as needed to relieve any potential kinks.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby Cnidium » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:07 pm

Waynetho wrote:Cnidium, you may have just developed a kink in the tubing since you say if you hold it a certain way you can pump to maximum but not otherwise. If you've developed a kinked tube, you might want to pump it up a bit and then bend UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT, push IN and pull OUT and repeat this a couple of times.

These steps are found on AMS instructions but since it's good common sense troubleshooting steps, it should apply equally to either the AMS or Titan products.

What this does is sort of redistributes the tubes, pulling where they are kinked up and may actually make things work better and more reliably for you. It really can't hurt to try this. You might want to try the same steps with different levels of inflation because it may not clear up things if done at 25% but say a 50-75% it may have enough resistance to help the tubing move as needed to relieve any potential kinks.


This sounds like reasonable advice. I will absolutely try this first thing tomorrow after work.
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Re: Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby Cnidium » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:11 pm

thereishope wrote:Hey Cnidium.... Hopefully you won't have any issues contacting your doctor, if you decide to do so because of the covid situation.

As for the problem... There is a member here that has had the implant for years but does not use it during sex, and inflates it like once or twice a year and he has no problems. Sometimes the devices develop issues on their own, and hopefully it's not the case. I am trying to picture what you wrote, but it's hard without a picture. I will try to re-read tomorrow.

Out of suggestions man. :x


I feel like I remember that member as well, and from other pieces of info along the way I truly don't believe long periods of non-use is problematic.


Hey everyone else, I will be in contact with Eid shortly. I wont rush it since this 'problem' has been here for a few months now and I am just so busy. I also wont wait too long. I have 5/10/2020 available to send out the first contact to him regarding my situation. Until then I will contine to cycle and have sex with the gf.

Thank you all for replying, I will let you know how it goes.
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Re: Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby DougAnd » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:13 am

Just a thought. We all had ED before this surgery. What most seem to forget is that we all still have ED and that is still slowly killing our penis. You seem to be developing peyronies disease. If so there is not much you can do that I know of. Staying fully inflated for a few days might stretch things out? The problem seems to be with your left side. Try inflating and bending your penis to the right so that the left cylinder can inflate and stretch. Just a thought. It takes time and patience to beat scarring. Good luck brother!
LGX 18cm+3cmRTE 8 / 8/18 by Docs Saracino , Prody of FL Disfigured by Implant. Married 31 years, Functionally impotent 2+ years. 4" day of surgery now 7" inflated after VED 6.5" without. Pump moved 12/4/18 by Dr Kata

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Re: Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby Waynetho » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:47 pm

DougAnd wrote:Just a thought. We all had ED before this surgery. What most seem to forget is that we all still have ED and that is still slowly killing our penis. You seem to be developing peyronies disease. If so there is not much you can do that I know of. Staying fully inflated for a few days might stretch things out? The problem seems to be with your left side. Try inflating and bending your penis to the right so that the left cylinder can inflate and stretch. Just a thought. It takes time and patience to beat scarring. Good luck brother!


What DougAnd said... I completely eliminated a 30 degree up-turn at midpoint in my penis (some call it a G-spot curve) by bending down aggressively against a mostly pumped (90-95%) implant. Over several days the bend completely disappeared but I was sore after each session and for a day or two after, in the stretched area. The doctor was pleased and impressed by my accomplishment. Just told me "Don't break the implant". I told him another surgeon had told me that there was a better chance of "breaking myself" than the implant, to which he agreed.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Implant may be slowly failing, advice welcomed.

Postby thereishope » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:38 am

DougAnd wrote:Just a thought. We all had ED before this surgery. What most seem to forget is that we all still have ED and that is still slowly killing our penis. You seem to be developing peyronies disease. If so there is not much you can do that I know of. Staying fully inflated for a few days might stretch things out? The problem seems to be with your left side. Try inflating and bending your penis to the right so that the left cylinder can inflate and stretch. Just a thought. It takes time and patience to beat scarring. Good luck brother!


DougAnd: In that case, you are wrong. Once you install the implant, you don't have ED no more. What you are saying is like somebody having knee problems and being crippled on a wheelchair, then installing a prosthesis and still being crippled. It's not like that and you know it.

That being said, i still agree with you that he can try to manipulate is penis. With some degree of caution, given that, that is called modelling, and that is what some doctors do during surgery to straighten your penis. But if they are too rough, they might injure the urethra (dr. kramer's words on one of his videos), so caution is warranted.


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