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[GOLD HORSE]

Guy what do you think is harder. A natural erection or a bionic one at 100%?

[Lost Sheep]

That's a hard one (question, that is).

We have to recall just how hard erections were before a long time (sometimes decades) ago.

My erections of my youth (to the best of my recollection) were painfully unbendable at their most rigid. And I could not even urinate when I had a full-bore erection.

Now, my erections (seem to me to be) equally unbendable but I can urinate when inflated (though slower than if I am not inflated). I think, however, this ability to urinate has less to do with the erection than with the fact that the implant simply does not restrict on the urethra quite as much as my tunica/corpora did.

I do note that some men here report that their implant-supported erections are so stiff as to be uncomfortable for their partners. So, that suggests implant erections can be harder than natural ones. But my experience is that my implant erection is equally as hard as my best past natural ones.

[Waynetho]

@Lost Sheep, I believe the inability to urinate during an erection is more basal than the erectile tissues along the urethra. IIRC, there is a physiological change in the sphincters (in bladder neck and pelvic floor) when a man gets an erection, which causes them to clamp down. Of course during ejaculation, the bladder sphincter remains clamped down and the lower sphincter alternately clamps and releases alternating with the prostate contractions.

That's what I recall anyway.

[Lost Sheep]

@Lost Sheep, I believe the inability to urinate during an erection is more basal than the erectile tissues along the urethra. IIRC, there is a physiological change in the sphincters (in bladder neck and pelvic floor) when a man gets an erection, which causes them to clamp down. Of course during ejaculation, the bladder sphincter remains clamped down and the lower sphincter alternately clamps and releases alternating with the prostate contractions.

That's what I recall anyway.

Thanks, Waynetho. What you describe is certainly what it felt like back then. The restriction seemed to be very deep indeed. Also, the feeling I get during ejaculation does correspond to a sphincter clamping and releasing (kind of like crimping a water hose to get spurts of water). I am not well versed enough in anatomy to have defined it or described it as well as you have.

I wonder if a state of arousal would cause the same anti-urination effect. It is hard for me to tell now, when the implant's erection is my mental focus during sexual activities. My focus (usually during morning wood) in my youth was in trying to empty my bladder.

[Waynetho]

I wonder if a state of arousal would cause the same anti-urination effect. It is hard for me to tell now, when the implant's erection is my mental focus during sexual activities. My focus (usually during morning wood) in my youth was in trying to empty my bladder.

It does for me anyway, but I've got my entire crus that is untouched and undilated for implantation. My implant rear tips actually bottom out to fibrous scars that are right below the base so that's why I have an implant that is precisely the same length as my dick.

[EDIT] I can pump up to 100% *WHILE* peeing and other than the fluid dynamics and having to change my aim as the pressure goes up in the cylinders, my ability to pee is unaffected by the implant. [/EDIT]

There is some erectile effect in the spongiosum that I didn't factor in on the previous rough description. The spongiosum engorgement reduces the diameter of the urethra when engorged, though not enough to clamp it but enough to raise fluidic pressures through it. Imagine pushing the same volume of water through a 4 mm tube (12 french) and a 6 mm tube 18 french) at the same time. Which one has more pressure in the tube, the smaller or larger? The smaller of course. Pushing 50 cc of water through a 4 mm tube in 2 seconds will be much more under pressure than pushing 50 cc of water through a 6 mm tube in the same 2 seconds.

[oldbeek]

I wonder if a state of arousal would cause the same anti-urination effect. It is hard for me to tell now, when the implant's erection is my mental focus during sexual activities. My focus (usually during morning wood) in my youth was in trying to empty my bladder.

It does for me anyway, but I've got my entire crus that is untouched and undilated for implantation. My implant rear tips actually bottom out to fibrous scars that are right below the base so that's why I have an implant that is precisely the same length as my dick.

[EDIT] I can pump up to 100% *WHILE* peeing and other than the fluid dynamics and having to change my aim as the pressure goes up in the cylinders, my ability to pee is unaffected by the implant. [/EDIT]

There is some erectile effect in the spongiosum that I didn't factor in on the previous rough description. The spongiosum engorgement reduces the diameter of the urethra when engorged, though not enough to clamp it but enough to raise fluidic pressures through it. Imagine pushing the same volume of water through a 4 mm tube (12 french) and a 6 mm tube 18 french) at the same time. Which one has more pressure in the tube, the smaller or larger? The smaller of course. Pushing 50 cc of water through a 4 mm tube in 2 seconds will be much more under pressure than pushing 50 cc of water through a 6 mm tube in the same 2 seconds.

I wonder why your dr didn't put a rte in your cruses. My entire member is 9 inch from the bottom of the cruses to tip of glans. Do you get stimulation in your pelvic floor nerves? I hinge right below my pubic bone. When pumped hard the entire length is un bendable. Harder than before RP in 2017.

[Gt1956]

Only an opinion here. As a youth my partner NEVER said I was too hard. Now, yes I realize that she likes it hard but will take what is offered. On the other side, I read of several members whose partners ask for a little less steel in their serving of dick. Since there is some control over hardness with an inflatable implant. I have to vote that an inflatable is far harder. Especially when you consider that the erection of your youth was in the past. Likely to not show up to the party everytime as you age. Your implant will be hard EVERYTIME you call upon it. A natural erection CAN'T do that. NEVER did that, NEVER will.

[Waynetho]

I wonder why your dr didn't put a rte in your cruses. My entire member is 9 inch from the bottom of the cruses to tip of glans. Do you get stimulation in your pelvic floor nerves? I hinge right below my pubic bone. When pumped hard the entire length is un bendable. Harder than before RP in 2017.

Even at 100% max pressure, I hinge at the base and I hang at about 4:00 to 4:30 when inflated. The reason I can see that he didn't do any RTE was because he either wasn't skilled enough to drill out the fibrosis, didn't think it was necessary or felt that it was an unwarranted risk. Dr. Morey agreed that the results I got would have likely been what he would have given me as well. My 6" from the bone to just under the tip of the glans is rock hard when 100% pumped but it wobbles left/right/up/down and is basically only held in place by the suspensory ligament.

I do get more sensation when pumped up if I lift my dick to between 3:00-2:00 positions and the sensations are quite pleasant at that angle. At the 4-4:30 angle though, the sensations are a bit dull.

On the plus side, since my crus was not dilated, I get engorgement in my crus and I've had morning wood on a few occasions, mostly a "ghost" erection though. I feel it in the abdomen even when I don't have much more than a chub in my penis.

[oldbeek]

I was concerned that I was rushing things, getting the IPP just 9 months after RP, even though my RP doc said he removed all my nerves. My IPP surgeon said during dilation, he just moves the engorgment material to the side. He doesn't remove anything. He has patients that have regained natural erection years after the RP and implant. Never a hard reliable erection but morning wood type with lots of filling. He called that the trifecta. Win,win ,win. I can still have hope.

[Waynetho]

I was concerned that I was rushing things, getting the IPP just 9 months after RP, even though my RP doc said he removed all my nerves. My IPP surgeon said during dilation, he just moves the engorgment material to the side. He doesn't remove anything. He has patients that have regained natural erection years after the RP and implant. Never a hard reliable erection but morning wood type with lots of filling. He called that the trifecta. Win,win ,win. I can still have hope.

My doctor said chubs and erections were impossible because he totally destroyed my erectile tissues. He didn't even do *THAT* right.