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GOLD HORSE
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WHAT %

Postby GOLD HORSE » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:09 am

Hi guys, God willing I will use my new toy for the second time,
The first time was three weeks after surgery and it was painful tomorrow it will be four weeks and four days.
I am able to pump to 100% for about 20 minutes then after 20 minutes pass it started to feel uncountable,
My question is what percent I should try?
My Dr game me clearance to used.

notaes
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Re: WHAT %

Postby notaes » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:21 am

GOLD HORSE

Good to hear you have the ok to use your new toy! im in my fifth week of a six week healing period. Can't wait to use my new toy. How was your first time using your new toy! did you experience pain?
66 yr old male married 36 yrs use trimix four yrs, cilais and Viagra. trimix work well developed scarring on both sides had implant 1/9/2020 at UT Med Ctr, Knoxville, TN Dr. John Lacy.

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Re: WHAT %

Postby Waynetho » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:53 am

Until you find the sweet spot number of pumps or rigidity that works for you, pump up until you think you feel any discomfort then release the pressure and immediately squeeze the bulb once more to lock the remainder into the cylinders.
58 yo, married 38 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19 Dr. Mark Allen, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

GOLD HORSE
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Re: WHAT %

Postby GOLD HORSE » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:31 am

Thanks for your help.
When I tried the first time it hurt a lot to the point that I had to pull back.
I hope this time will be different, but I love my new toy it get so hard that I can hurt some one with it.

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Re: WHAT %

Postby Waynetho » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:37 pm

Gold Horse, also remember that for penetration you don't have to be able to drive nails with it. You can have a bit of flex in the shaft and it will still work. Maybe half the number of pumps you usually cycle to would be a good starting point for coitus.
58 yo, married 38 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19 Dr. Mark Allen, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

GOLD HORSE
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Re: WHAT %

Postby GOLD HORSE » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:24 pm

Thanks, you are right I will try 2/3 as a starting point.

Lost Sheep
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Re: WHAT %

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:45 pm

Ask your partner's preference.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017 Dr Shaw.
READ OLD THREADS to ask better questions and better understand answers.
Make yourself part of your medical team.
Document your current penile size: photos and written records.
Pre-op V.E.D. therapy helps.

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Re: WHAT %

Postby Jack317 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:15 pm

Waynetho wrote:Until you find the sweet spot number of pumps or rigidity that works for you, pump up until you think you feel any discomfort then release the pressure and immediately squeeze the bulb once more to lock the remainder into the cylinders.


I am curious about this. When I squeeze the bulb and activate I immediately start to get rigid and then maybe four or five more I can't squeeze it anymore. Does the AMS 700 stop at a certain max point or can you continue to try to squeeze? I have felt some pain but not much when i pump up and leave it for 10-20 mins. Wondering if I can push it a bit more to gain some size over time.
Jack
60 yrs old
Pasadena, CA
Radical non nerve sparing (open cut) prostatectomy Dec 2013
Implant date 12.26.19

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Re: WHAT %

Postby Waynetho » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:20 pm

Jack317 wrote:
Waynetho wrote:Until you find the sweet spot number of pumps or rigidity that works for you, pump up until you think you feel any discomfort then release the pressure and immediately squeeze the bulb once more to lock the remainder into the cylinders.


I am curious about this. When I squeeze the bulb and activate I immediately start to get rigid and then maybe four or five more I can't squeeze it anymore. Does the AMS 700 stop at a certain max point or can you continue to try to squeeze? I have felt some pain but not much when i pump up and leave it for 10-20 mins. Wondering if I can push it a bit more to gain some size over time.

When I first was activated I could only get about 3 pumps on my AMS 700 CX due to swelling inside the corpora. I can now get about ten medium pumps decreasing in volume by about the 5th or 6th pump. After 10 pumps I'm just squeezing an almost hard bulb but still get minor valve noise at times (squeak or swish sound).

If you're recently activated, this is probably you're situation as well.

Your limiting factor is you're body. If you're swollen inside, fewer pumps may be needed and it will max out and not pump any more.
58 yo, married 38 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19 Dr. Mark Allen, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: WHAT %

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:43 pm

Jack317 wrote:
Waynetho wrote:Until you find the sweet spot number of pumps or rigidity that works for you, pump up until you think you feel any discomfort then release the pressure and immediately squeeze the bulb once more to lock the remainder into the cylinders.


I am curious about this. When I squeeze the bulb and activate I immediately start to get rigid and then maybe four or five more I can't squeeze it anymore. Does the AMS 700 stop at a certain max point or can you continue to try to squeeze? I have felt some pain but not much when i pump up and leave it for 10-20 mins. Wondering if I can push it a bit more to gain some size over time.

When I start to pump (I have an AMS LGX, (which I surmise is a different model than either the AMS LGX or AMS CX), with the first 10 or so pumps of the bulb, I get very little increase of size or rigidity (from a flaccid that can easily be bent double). I can do 30 or 40 squeezes to get full "iron rod" rigidity. There was a thread wherein there was much debate over pump volume, how much volume per squeeze and volume of the implant cylinders. It seems there is quite a bit of variation in men's experiences and we were not able to come to complete agreement excpet that there is variation.

One speculation that did not get much pushback is that there is some elasticity within the system. The pump bulb may be (that is, a maybe) squeezed a bit before fluid acually flows against the pressure of the valving due to some degreee of elasticity of the pump bulb material itself. The tubing may have some degree of elasticity to allow fluid flow before the implant's inflatable tubes actually receive additional fluid. The one-way valve mechanism may allow some backwash as well. These factors would explain the ability to get some squeeze into the bulb without adding fluid to the cylinders. Again, I note that this is speculation. Only the engineers at AMS would be able to confirm this.

I have been inflating almost daily (started out twice daily shortly after implantation) for over two years. I added a fraction of an inch to my length and girth. Not noticeable, really, but some tiny bit. The tunica albuginea tissue is not designed by nature to be elastic (else rigidity in a natural erection would suffer), but since it is living tissue, I believe it can be induced to grow, albeit slowly. Much the same as the bones of athletes who engage in weight-bearing exercise increase their density, the tunica, if subjected to low-level consistently applied stresses would grow to accommodate those stresses. (CAVEAT: stress applied 24-7 would likely damage other tissues, so be careful!!!) I have found VERY Little research to support this contention, however.

In the early months after implant, if I were fully inflated, I felt discomfort after 10-20 minutes, as you have experienced. After about a year, 90 minutes of full inflation compels me to release pressure.

Worthwhile to note: Scar tissue encapsulation of either the implant or the reservoir is to be avoided. the "Pseudo-capsule" around the implant will limit inflation. Around the reservoir, will limit deflation. Since the pumping action of inflation can force fluid into the implant's tubes and break up or stretch the implant, the capsule around the implant can be mitigated over time. Since there is no way to force fluid into the reservoir, the capsule around the reservoir can be extremely problematic if allowed to form too small. So, full deflation on a regular basis, especially during the early days is important. That is, cycling to full inflation and full deflation, both, is advisable. Since scar tissue begins to form immediately after closure of the surgical wounds, early cycling (as soon as your surgeon gives the "OK") is usually advisable (absent contraindications).

As always, remember:
Believe only half of what you see with your own eyes.
One-quarter of what you hear with your own ears.
That goes double from anything you get from the internet
Double that advice from unattributed sources.
Even this post.

Trust that the advice on FrankTalk is given sincerely, but RELY on your surgeon.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017 Dr Shaw.
READ OLD THREADS to ask better questions and better understand answers.
Make yourself part of your medical team.
Document your current penile size: photos and written records.
Pre-op V.E.D. therapy helps.


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