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Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:27 am
by Crtrader
I wasn’t a math major but: 1 pump+ 1 reservoir + 2 cylinders +tubes = 5 piece. Plus saline solution = 6 piece. Let’s start calling it what it is.

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:46 am
by Waynetho
Because it's three distinct parts. Tubes are *part* of the component and are not separate. There is the reservoir, a pump and the cylinders (identical part, times two). Some men have been implanted with only one cylinder in the event of severe corporal fibrosis with only one viable corpus. It's not ideal but there has been at least one paper written on the subject on what a surgeon should do if it's impossible to get a cylinder into a scarred corpus: put the one cylinder in if possible then seal off the unused tube on the pump.

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:14 am
by Crtrader
There are 5 separate parts that can fail- tubes are one of them. My theory on why they call it a 3 piece when it’s really 5 pieces plus saline solution, is that they want it to sound simpler.

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:08 pm
by Waynetho
That's one opinion. Perhaps an open letter to both BS and Coloplast will get them to change their marketing as 3-piece... Naah, doubt that.

Do you buy two pieces of socks (one for each foot) or a pair of socks (a unit)? The cylinders are a single unit in the equation and they come in pairs. The tubes are part of the cylinders *AND* the pump *AND* the reservoir so you could use the following logic:

PUMP +1
Pump tubing +3
L Cyl +1
L Cyl tubing +1
R Cyl +1
R Cyl tubing +1
Reservoir +1
Reservoir tubing +1
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Total parts: 10

Oh, let's not forget that all three pump tubes have to be connected to the other tubes so there are three more pieces needed for the equation: Quick Connects +3

Grand total 13 pieces... Yes the quick connect can fail and cause a leak to occur, requiring a revision due to no saline in the implant.

Of course if it's a self-contained penoscrotal unit, then you only have a pump, three tubes, reservoir and two cylinders, equalling seven (not five).

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:20 pm
by dg_moore
Waynetho wrote:That's one opinion. Perhaps an open letter to both BS and Coloplast will get them to change their marketing as 3-piece... Naah, doubt that.

Do you buy two pieces of socks (one for each foot) or a pair of socks (a unit)? The cylinders are a single unit in the equation and they come in pairs. The tubes are part of the cylinders *AND* the pump *AND* the reservoir so you could use the following logic:

PUMP +1
Pump tubing +3
L Cyl +1
L Cyl tubing +1
R Cyl +1
R Cyl tubing +1
Reservoir +1
Reservoir tubing +1
------------------------
Total parts: 10


Socks and shoes are virtually always on special sale - buy one, get one free.

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:49 pm
by Crtrader
That’s why I like the malleable - it’s 2 pieces- that’s it. Nothing to break or fail.

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:51 pm
by David_R
dg_moore wrote:Socks and shoes are virtually always on special sale - buy one, get one free.

:lol:
I can't wait to share this!

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:20 pm
by Gt1956
I suspect the real answer is because some of them come pre assembled. When the package is opened there is 3 assemblies. I don't see the logic. Why not count every section of tubing, splices & ferrels individually? Hey, let's try counting all the bits in the pump.
I hardly see the issue with the name. The manufacturers have named them so why the debate? English language is full of quirks. Why are pants called a "pair"? The name should be legs so you would buy a pair.
Is this an attempt to prove some superiority in 1 piece implants? Btw, there is two of them.
The 1 piece implants have a place in the market place. They serve that section well. My father in law had one 30 years ago. They have a major down side that the section of the market is willing to live with. I.e., hard 24/7/365. My fil's was designed to hinge so that it could be stowed comfortably. To some people that have been without a reliable erection for years, maybe their whole life. 24/7/365 sounds perfect......until they live it.
My discussion with Dr. Karpman was tempered with a good piece of advice. Be cautious of the implant forum. People are quick to complain. The forum can at times be loaded with men with problems. Litteraly several thousand are implanted per month. Most men are happy with the 3 piece style. They go home, recover & have fairly happy lives.
Sorry guys. Kind of an off topic rant. Point is, the companies know what their doing. If you fit within the section of the men that the one piece implants are designed for. Your surgeon should steer you in that direction. That is his job, I hope that he does his job.

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:36 pm
by SW0110
Seriously. Pump, tubes, cylinders. 3 parts. Does not matter how many actual pieces are comprised of each.

If you want to get specific. The pump has a deflate button, valves, body, etc.

I mean really.

Re: Why do they call it a 3 piece

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:46 pm
by Waynetho
Actually, PUMP/TUBES/CYLINDERS is the 2-piece with self-contained saline in the pump. The tubes are part of the other components. The 3-piece is more like PUMP/RESERVOIR/CYLINDERS.