Post-Implant Changes in Libido

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Lost Sheep
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Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:05 pm

I wonder how the implant operation or the implant itself has affected libido in other men. Up or down, but up is understandable. Down is more inscrutable.

After implant, I find myself less inclined to initiate a sexual encounter and do not know why. I am searching for "brainstorming" speculations.

Thoughts I have had run the range between
A) nerve damage reducing my sensation (fellation used to be a favorite, but now, gentle stroking of my perineum and scrotum feel better)
B) Psychological suppression of libido because of years of inability to perform
C) Somehow the implant itself (loss of spontaneous erection and the sense of urgency that disappearing erections created)
D) Being older reducing my general energy levels (after my first orgasm of the day, my energy levels and interest in sex drop off a cliff)
E) Because I have a steady partner instead of having to "pursue" a woman, lacking the excitement of the chase
F) the VERY likely omission of something I have not thought of

Anyone else experience this change in libido (up or down, but I am focused on down at the moment)?
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Slavicguy123
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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby Slavicguy123 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:57 pm

I would say that drop you are experiencing is partialy mental and thing that you said that you enjoy stroking balls more than blowjob i would say you enjoy it more becouse it it takes penis off a direct sensation focus so arousal keeps going(making it more enjoyable obviously) and when focus is on dick you are focusing on sensation and not on arousal so you are just feeling physical sensation on your dick and not so much arousal part as on balls, i dont know is this is making sense but for experiencing plesurable sensation while reciving blowjob one cannot just relay on physical sensation but on arousal part of it like( what an slut she is sucking my dick it brings more arousal)
Which will in turn heightend the physical sensation... i hope this makes sense.

Pro tip buy her some vibrating toy and focus on her pussy while reciving a blowjob..

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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby Waynetho » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:04 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:I wonder how the implant operation or the implant itself has affected libido in other men. Up or down, but up is understandable. Down is more inscrutable.

After implant, I find myself less inclined to initiate a sexual encounter and do not know why. I am searching for "brainstorming" speculations.


I'm a horny little bastard after getting my implant. I believe it is the difference between being a turtle and shower, with the latter getting constant stimulus against clothing.

Part of it may be mental/emotional as well but I believe in my case, the majority of cause is the stimulation.

You could get you testosterone and progesterone tested... Low-T can cause what you're experiencing but progesterone is also necessary to keep testosterone and estrogen levels in check and at the right levels (or so I have read in several reports)
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

Lost Sheep
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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:16 pm

Waynetho wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:I wonder how the implant operation or the implant itself has affected libido in other men. Up or down, but up is understandable. Down is more inscrutable.

After implant, I find myself less inclined to initiate a sexual encounter and do not know why. I am searching for "brainstorming" speculations.


I'm a horny little bastard after getting my implant. I believe it is the difference between being a turtle and shower, with the latter getting constant stimulus against clothing.

Part of it may be mental/emotional as well but I believe in my case, the majority of cause is the stimulation.

So, if you had a willing partner (and the time) you would be fucking all the time? (Might be an exaggeration, but you get the idea.) I am experiencing desire for sex at a lower frequency than my partner.

Of course, I do have to acknowledge that my current partner expresses desire for sex more often than I. What I am saying is that when my current partner just massages my private parts, I am just as happy has having coitus (except for the enjoyment I get from HER orgasms).

So, I guess our conditions/experiences are opposite of one another.
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Lost Sheep
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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby tomas1 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:53 pm

I was using T injections for some years when I had the implant.
Look up 2 peckered billy goat and that would have been me.

When my doc suggested I quit the injections, my libido plummeted and I had no desire to inflate or have sex.
My wife thought the apparatus had broken.

I felt so much older and didn't want to live that way that I resumed the injections and billy is back.

My wife's a good sport but doesn't want to have sex every day.
Hell, I do most of the work, but every other day is probably enough for old people.
85 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
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David_R
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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby David_R » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:58 pm

My libido has remained the same before and after the implant. Very high! :D

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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby stephen54 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:05 pm

What an interesting topic. This literally never occurred to me...that proceeding with implant could result in diminished libido from its owner.

My first thought honestly was that if there was a drop-off in libido between the implanted guy and his partner, it would likely be the partner, due to the highly likely scenario where he is suddenly mega-swagger-confident and is running around terrorizing the villagers with his unstoppable light sabre of a mechanical dick. We had that discussion here - my wife was slightly concerned that my already high libido would go into further overdrive with the implant and that, as a result, I would mercilessly want to pound her into oblivion, and constantly.

If I'm being honest here...the above is actually not too far from what I'm feeling now (in the quiet safe space of my head). Now that I'm figuring this implant out, I want to use it. Even when it's a bit sore from being used...I kind of want to use it more. Again. Like...all the fucking time, mostly. The implant has granted me a beautiful cleansing freedom from the multi-decade crush of ED anxiety. All that background noise in my head and psyche? Poof. Gone. And for me, that background noise was what dampened my libido prior to implantation. I didn't want to fail. I didn't want a half-assed sexual experience for her. So there were times when I was perversely glad that sex got postponed. Even though I wanted it to happen so intensely, I knew my problems and failure rate, and I couldn't fail at what I didn't attempt, right? The warped logic of the ED sufferer.

So I don't honestly know what to think about the original question of diminishment. My libido has been outrageously high my entire life, even when my testosterone was in the abyss and I didn't know it. It was comically low (in the 50-60 range...now it's 800-1000). So that's been corrected with replacement for a lot of years now and that has helped me with muscle mass, weight control, bone density, mental acuity, sleep, you name it. But I'll be damned if it's affected my libido. At least I don't notice a change. God help me if it went higher.

So, libido for me has escalated as I've moved into my 50s but I attribute that entirely to my relationship. I moved into my 50s with a new partner I met mid-40s, and she is just extremely sexual. She does not flagrantly start things, usually. But that's just kind of our vibe. She likes to be told what to do with sex. She may not specifically initiate a lot, but once I push a button, more often than not, it's on, and she's into another gear. So I'm blessedly partnered with someone who, on the whole, I am in sexual sync with and we share a ton of the same motivations and rewards. My libido is largely fed by her submission to me and her libido is fed powerfully by my exerting dominance toward her. And I am very conscious of the fact she...moves, restores, and re-stocks my libido. She moves it higher by a thousand seemingly innocuous things said, movements made, gestures, texts, implications, scents, visuals...and of course by all manner of outright filthy provocations, too. Everything she does, every way she provides feedback to me that she's interested, that she's turned on, having fun, lost in something pleasurable...it's like a tanker truck following me around, refueling my future libido. It seems like we all sort of have an inborn, natural libido level we operate at...but then, there are things capable of escalating it. Hefting one's libido up to a new and higher baseline. For us, it's just this massive positive feedback loop. The more we do, the more we enjoy, the more we try, the more we play, cuddle, flirt, fuck...the more we want to play, cuddle, flirt, fuck. As a cautionary tale, however, the converse is equally true. Libido can atrophy and suffer greatly where it is not openly, habitually tended to and nurtured and honored and exploited.

My libido rant. Only our personal take on this. Who knows, we could be wrong as hell.

In Lost Sheep's possible reasons, he postulated:

A) nerve damage reducing sensation
[ I don't quite understand that, though? I see libido as all the pre-touching ideation and fuel which then sets you toward touching. Libido, in my way of thinking anyway, is the massive pile of dry tinder, soaked with gasoline, and my wife dancing drunkenly around its edges with lit matches in both hands. That's libido. It's all the stuff that makes me want to touch, want to play, want to have sex. That I am further aroused by actual physical touch in highly sensitive areas is a given. I'm talking about libido in the sense of all the precursor fuel in the playground of my mind and my mind doing its chemical dance party. Actual touch comes later. Although, of course, certain kinds of touch...the memories and images of particular types of touch...those are future gasoline for future mental fires...of course.}

B) Psychological suppression of libido because of years of inability to perform
[entirely agree that is an ED/pre-implant reality, but I don't understand this in the context of that ability to perform being so vividly restored and now guaranteed? Certainly, libido doesn't turn on a dime, but I still cannot connect the dots to understand its possible decline accompanying implantation?]

C) Somehow the implant itself (loss of spontaneous erection and the sense of urgency that disappearing erections created)
{but, most of us that went the implant route definitely did not have recent years of good experiences with spontaneous erections, so there really isn't a "loss" of spontaneous erections all of a sudden now that we're implanted. And the sense of urgency of even a Trimix-induced erection...that, too, was real anxiety and urgency...but that's a consideration again happening when we're presumably already naked, injected, and going at it. Libido to us is everything setting the mental table prior to physical action]

D) Being older reducing my general energy levels (after my first orgasm of the day, my energy levels and interest in sex drop off a cliff)
[I get this, to a point. Prior to implant, if I masturbated and then later the same day/evening, she wanted to play, it's a fact that my interest level and motivation was less than it would have been if I had not masturbated. for sure. But interestingly, as I've been cycling in the morning, sometimes...you know...hard dick and my shitty willpower combine and I might masturbate here and there. But then (now, I mean, since implant) she comes home on a day I already masturbated and I just want to attack her. It's somehow not at the moment knocking back my desire for her, or for sex, by my having masturbated. This is a definite shift. I can't explain this and I'm surprised by it. It's got to be related to my mind very suddenly recognizing that now the world isn't

"Inject, Ouch, Fingers Crossed"
now it's
"Pump, Fuck, Fuck Fuck" repeat, if desired

E) Because I have a steady partner instead of having to "pursue" a woman, lacking the excitement of the chase
{but that's not a change from pre-implant for you, right? Same woman, same relationship dynamics post-implant as prior? maybe I misunderstood...some of the things you mentioned, Lost Sheep, they strike me as the sorts of contributing factors to a longer-term libido slide occurring over a period of years...not over a period of weeks in the context of implant.]

I do find that last point interesting though. It's similar to the way libido can take a softening hit after the early months/first year or so of a new relationship where you now have gotten past all that crazy new-ness...to Lost Sheep's point, "the chase"...that onrushing dopamine flood when it's all new and outcomes are uncertain. So the first step is recognizing that this is happening. And the next part...the more challenging part...is repeatedly, consciously finding creative ways to see your partner in a different light. In ways which are unfamiliar and new. This all re-feeds libido (or we find it to do so, anyway).

Sorry for the probably unfocused rant...I just think it's an interesting feeling you're expressing and I'm trying to understand it. Maybe even guard against it, if it's out there laying in the weeds waiting for me somewhere.
54 yrs. Blessed with highly sexual 52 yr old wife. Pills 10 years, then 9 yrs Trimix. 28 cm Titan Touch XL 2019, Laurence Levine, Rush Univ Med Ctr, Chicago. Implant = nonstop fun. Hypogonadal, so also 10+ years testosterone replacement.

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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby dg_moore » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:40 am

I had a stroke and my libido waned seriously in the years leading up to the implant. By the time I finally healed from the surgery my desire was completely gone. We never got around to trying it out and my libido never came back. My wife had also lost interest and since we were on the same page we just called it quits. Life without sex the last 12+ years has been just fine, fortunately.
Dave, 80, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer (failed Sept 2020) - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby andrew1959nj » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:53 am

If my partner had a libido I would do her every day. Dam, this morning watching her in the kitchen getting her lunch ready for work as I could see was a smoking hot little ass that was calling my name and with her H's, things heat up when she turns around.

That said, she no longer has any drive, is completely dry, very thing walls from no use. Even a little penetration causes her great pain so we don't even try.

Thank god for porn, massage parlors and escorts.
60 years old. MS and Severe ED 10+ years. Pills and injections never worked well. Implanted 5/16/2019 by Dr. Sadeghi. Titan 20cm + 2cm RTE.

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Re: Post-Implant Changes in Libido

Postby gene308 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:47 am

I have low T and take injections. My wife uses harmonal creams. It seems that as far as sex and desire for sex there are biological clocks for male and female. I am grateful that there are medical interventions to help us as we age. I will retire soon and I am very happy to be able to have some passion in our golden years.
My wifes desire is unpredictable and fleeting. The implat allows me to always be ready for the opportunity. I take every one I can get
Gene308 married 43 years AMS 700 CX 21cm+2cm Implanted 10/04/2018 Dr James Hotaling (surgeon) and Mariah McCafferty, (Surgical Nurse and AMS rep) , University of Utah


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