fascinating comments.
one thing that i do not like about franktalk is that you read about so many horror stories, so it makes one pause regarding an implant. Yet, in this particular thread, guys write in and say that the implant was an amazing life changing event. Now, thanks to the implant, I am way better at sex now than I was when I was 30 (I had PE back then and not very good erection). SO it has been a great life change for me.
I was surprised to read here that 75% of males can hold an erection for 30 minutes with no trouble. Wow, my dick must have really sucked all my life. I suppose I should have gotten the implant ten years earlier. But this is all "first world thinking" and "using modern medicine for performance enhancement." In a manner of thinking, it is a little bit like athletes using steroids for performance enhancement in their area of athleticism.
The original person, charlie17, who was asking if it is time for surgery is truly , I think , on the borderline with regards to whether or not an implant is needed. He states:
Charlie17 states:
- with 40 mg cialis I can get erections with stimulation, so I can have spontaneous sex
- I'm able to have sex 20+ times a month, usually for 30 min's or more per session
- I lose my erections without constant stimulation, within 10 seconds or so
- although I'm not depressed and have supportive relationships, it has been weighing on my mood since the injury in Feb. Good sex is very important to me
Wow, 30 minute session 20 times per month --- that is probably in the 90% level for a 45 year old !
In a way, this might be like a beautiful woman who wants to get a boob job for boobs that are already pretty nice. Let's say she is a 36 B cup size and they are a little saggy and do not fill the bathing suit and evening gown perfectly. It is understandable that she would want to become a 36 C cup size (or even 36 D) and that would be awesome looking in a bathing suit and a low cut gown. But there is a small chance of infection, a chance of some numbness of the nipples, a feeling of heaviness lugging those things around, and some judgement from those around her since she opted to be a booby girl. All that being said, I can see why she would opt for the bigger boobs if she had the time and money--why not, you only live once !
Implant is way more complicated than a boob job---there are moving parts, it is a bionic device that needs to function and be mechanical. Unlike the boobs which some would consider represent passive ornaments that are bystanders to the act, the penis is the center of the show and is the entire act.
QUESTION 1: "Should a man get an implant as a performance enhancing surgery?"
Second issue:
Charlie mentions the following problems with penile implants:
CHARLIE17 states:
- painful surgery and recovery
- Could end up with reduced sexual sensation, including possible reduction in glans engorgement
- Could become more difficult to achieve orgasm
- post surgery "angle" may make sex more difficult/uncomfortable in some positions
- with implant may lose the natural "hinge" making sex more difficult/uncomfortable in some positions
- need to replace every 8-15 years or so. I'm 45 so this could mean 2-3 revisions, and as I understand it the risks of all the con's above increase with each revision
Here are my responses:
" painful surgery and recovery"-->not an issue for me since I am willing to endure pain for significant gain, and i revovered with no trouble, but we all know surgery can go bad
"reduced sensation"-> did not happen to me, but yes, this is a known side effect in some cases
""glans engorgement limitations" --> my glans engorgement is lousy. This is because of my very severe ED and NOT because of the implant. (ie, the implant cures cure ED in the shaft, it will not cure your ED in the glans)
"orgasm difficulty"--> not a problem for me, but yes, this can be a side effect of the surgery
"post surgery angle and positions"---> yes, I am 3:00 and not 2:00. This is not really a problem (though I am not very good at hands free entry anymore--but, heck, not a problem). Any position is possible.
"natural hinge loss"--> I do not think this is an issue if you pump it up not quite all the way. In other words, you can have a rod that is like a spike which flexes very little, or you can have a hard penis which flexes more naturally. Let the woman decide what she wants.
"replace every 10 years or so"---> yup, it is artificial and it will wear out.
QUESTION 2: "Does the upside potential of implant outweigh the downside risk ?"
so, brothers, please keep the discussion going (and help out charlie17 who is on the fence regarding whether he really needs this surgery) by writing your opinions and answers to the questions on "performance enhancement surgery" and on "upside potential vs downside risk."