New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

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oneperson
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New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby oneperson » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:02 pm

Hi there,

I am an spanish man, so first, sorry for the language mistakes. I am 51 years old and have a liver trasplant. ED episodes since 24 years, last 10 years became a real problem. After several doctor visits, tests, viagra treatments, injections, psycotherapy and almost a divorce from my wife, on 12th September i was done.

The preoperatory measurements of my pennis was 10 cm from pubis to the extreme of the glan (streched, not erectioon, I was not measured under erection), so it is not a big pennis at all. Doctor said that it would be the size of my pennis after the surgery, so not a big deal. My wife has enough with that size as long as the erection is good.

Post surgery was a hell. I left the quirofan with 80% of inflation. I am not going to talk about pain, just no cateter for piss. I left the hospital 24 hours afrer surgery, with my 80% inflation, a 'king size' right testicle and a tremendows pain in all the zone, scrotum, pennis, pubiis, everything ached.

Five days later, I went to the consultation. Doctor deflated the pump to about 30%, and told me to take analgesics for pain, and a jockstrap. Without jockstrap, I wasn't able even to be standing, no to talk about walking: the scrotum ache was so unbearabable that I could not support even with analgesycs. Because of that, I went to the consultation 3 days later. Doctor said there was no infection, so he increased rhe dosis of pills and recommend patient, and deflated the pump completely, leaving the pennis completely flaccid (which for bionic men, it not like before, always has some hardness).

Ache was reducing little by little, but my right testicle was a big ball of inflamation still. Doctor dated me for 14th October (one month after surgery) in order to teach me the handle of the pump. I went to the date, but the right testicle was so inflamated that he wasn't able to make the lessons. It was too ache. He then told me to take ibuprofen twice a day during 10 days, and come again in 7 days.

The right testicle inflamation begun then to reduce, so yesterday finnaly went to learn to use the pump. He teach me to inflate and deflate, and I receive the first bad surprise: I press the pump several times until I am not able to press it more, I suppose that it is because it has reached the maximum fill of the cylinders. And my pennis, though I haven't measured, seems at least one or two centimeters shorter. Doctor says that it is enough to have sexual relationships, and it will grow to the original size of 10 cm.

He has instruct to fill the pump once a day and keep it for 15 or 20 minutes, and begin to have sex when I have no ache. I have told my wife I will be ready for sex in one week or so. And I have some doubts in this rehab. I have been reading internet for the matter, and I have read people that says to fill the cylinders to maximum twice a day during 1-2 hours. Other say that fill them before sleep and left all night..Other say that inflate to the limit of the ache, and try a little more as time goes by...

I don't know if it is because lack of practice, but I am not able to push the pump more at one time, and when I reach that point, the pennis is hard like a rock, but smaller than even when I saw after the sugery when it was supossed to be inflated to 80%. When I reach that point, I don't feel ache, just a little bothering tightness.

In your experience, which would be the better routine to recover size as soon as possible? I am very afraid of the size, and about my incapacity to pump the cylinders. Keep in mind that for me is very difficult to find one or two hours in the day to have the pennis in erection, apart from sleep time at night.

Which would be your advice? And, last but no least: after six weeks, how is possible that I have still some ache? How much time is needed to not have any annoyance?

Thank you very much.

Ahh, I forget it. My prothesys is Coloplast titan one touch, and the surgery report tells that two 20 cm cylinders has been used, which is very surprising because it doubles my pennis size,
Implanted September 12nd 2019. Coloplast Titan OTR 20 cm + 1 cm RTE. Dr Cruz (Spain). Liver transplanted. Born in 1967. ED since 24 in different degrees. Pills stopped working in March 2019. Injections caused much pain.

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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby newbie443 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:22 pm

Welcome to FT. We are all different and doctors are different also. Best thing to do is to follow your doctors instructions. As far as size I had gains past one year so no need to rush this. Right now you need to heal. Aggressive cycling for regaining size before you heal can cause damage. But you do need to cycle as your doctor prescribes.

In regards to your 20cm cylinder size, a portion of that is deep inside your body. A general rule sometimes used is that a 1/3 is inside your body, but again we are all different and some have less than that 1/3 and others have more than that third inside our bodies. But indications with this rule is your 10cm size is a realistic expectation. It just may take a while. As I said I had improvements in size out past 1 year and I have read posts from others on this site that they have also.

Welcome bionic brother. At your one year anniversary I think you will be very happy. Keep us updated on your progress if you can. Best wishes going forward with this.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:30 pm

Welcome to the forum and thanks for asking and giving us the opportunity to help.

If your penis is 10cm and implant is 20cm obviously more than half is buried inside your pelvis. This is more than average, but should not cause concern.
Si su pene mide 10 cm y el implante mide 20 cm, obviamente, más de la mitad está enterrado dentro de su pelvis. Esto es más que el promedio, pero no debería ser motivo de preocupación.

The inflammation, swelling and tenderness was alarming, but since it is resolving, not worrisome now.
La inflamación, la hinchazón y la sensibilidad eran alarmantes, pero como se está resolviendo, no es preocupante ahora.

With practice, you will find a way to hold your hand(s) to operate the pump easily.
Con práctica, encontrará una manera de sostener su (s) mano (s) para operar la bomba fácilmente.

I usually inflate before going to bed. Showering, brushing teeth and other activities preparing for sleep and laying in bed talking to my partner. If I fall asleep inflated, the discomfort usually awakens me in about 60 to 90 minutes.
Por lo general me inflo antes de acostarme. Ducharse, cepillarse los dientes y otras actividades preparándose para dormir y acostado en la cama hablando con mi pareja. Si me quedo dormido inflado, la incomodidad generalmente me despierta en unos 60 a 90 minutos.

I DO NOT recommend staying inflated overnight or extended periods of time. Leaving your tissues compressed can impede blood flow. This is very bad.
NO RECOMIENDO permanecer inflado durante la noche o largos períodos de tiempo. Dejar sus tejidos comprimidos puede impedir el flujo sanguíneo. Esto es muy malo.

When you are inflated, feel the implant's cylinders' sides. Are there any wrinkles or are they smooth and straight?
Cuando esté inflado, sienta los lados de los cilindros del implante. ¿Hay arrugas o son lisas y rectas?
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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby oneperson » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:11 pm

Thanks for the quick answers. So the best will be try to stay full half - one our a day during shower or watching TV before sleep, once a day, as my doctor said. In one month I have to go again, so he will give instructions.

Regarding the question, I haven't pay attention, this evening I will look and tomorrow answer. What I can tell is that when cylinders are not full, there are two main wrinkes, one at each side. I think when filled they are straight and smooth, but tonight I will see.

So I have to try to fill as much as I can, without make hurt, isn't it?

What a pity not having found this forum before surgery. And thanks for spanish translations.
Implanted September 12nd 2019. Coloplast Titan OTR 20 cm + 1 cm RTE. Dr Cruz (Spain). Liver transplanted. Born in 1967. ED since 24 in different degrees. Pills stopped working in March 2019. Injections caused much pain.

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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:22 pm

oneperson wrote:Thanks for the quick answers. So the best will be try to stay full half - one our a day during shower or watching TV before sleep, once a day, as my doctor said. In one month I have to go again, so he will give instructions.

Regarding the question, I haven't pay attention, this evening I will look and tomorrow answer. What I can tell is that when cylinders are not full, there are two main wrinkes, one at each side. I think when filled they are straight and smooth, but tonight I will see.

So I have to try to fill as much as I can, without make hurt, isn't it?

What a pity not having found this forum before surgery. And thanks for spanish translations.

Por nada, amigo.
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Prostate Cancer 2023
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Document pre-op size-photos and written records
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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:29 pm

oneperson wrote:So the best will be try to stay full half

Probably best to inflate fully for short times and deflate fully also. You do not want a scar tissue capsule around the reservoir or the implant. After 6 months or so (discuss with your surgeon) you may want to be partially inflated on a regular basis.

Probablemente sea mejor inflar completamente por cortos períodos de tiempo y desinflar completamente también. No desea una cápsula de tejido cicatricial alrededor del reservorio o el implante. Después de aproximadamente 6 meses (hable con su cirujano), es posible que desee que se infle parcialmente de forma regular.

This is just my opinion (but shared by others). I am not any kind of medical professional.
Esta es solo mi opinión (pero compartida por otros). No soy ningún tipo de profesional médico.
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Prostate Cancer 2023
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Document pre-op size-photos and written records
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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:34 pm

oneperson wrote:So the best will be try to stay full half

Probably best to inflate fully for short times and deflate fully also. You do not want a scar tissue capsule around the reservoir or the implant. After 6 months or so (discuss with your surgeon) you may want to be partially inflated on a regular basis.

Probablemente sea mejor inflar completamente por cortos períodos de tiempo y desinflar completamente también. No desea una cápsula de tejido cicatricial alrededor del reservorio o el implante. Después de aproximadamente 6 meses (hable con su cirujano), es posible que desee que se infle parcialmente de forma regular.

This is just my opinion (but shared by others). I am not any kind of medical professional.
Esta es solo mi opinión (pero compartida por otros). No soy ningún tipo de profesional médico.

This thread might be worth reading:
Vale la pena leer este hilo:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6814
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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:55 pm

oneperson wrote:And my pennis, though I haven't measured, seems at least one or two centimeters shorter. Doctor says that it is enough to have sexual relationships, and it will grow to the original size of 10 cm.
,

I will speculate that part or all of your size reduction is illusory. Swelling of your belly may be hiding some of your length.
Especularé que parte o la totalidad de su reducción de tamaño es ilusoria. La hinchazón de su vientre puede estar ocultando parte de su longitud.
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Prostate Cancer 2023
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Document pre-op size-photos and written records
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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby barrosa » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:11 pm

oneperson wrote:Hi there,

I am an spanish man, so first, sorry for the language mistakes. I am 51 years old and have a liver trasplant. ED episodes since 24 years, last 10 years became a real problem. After several doctor visits, tests, viagra treatments, injections, psycotherapy and almost a divorce from my wife, on 12th September i was done.

The preoperatory measurements of my pennis was 10 cm from pubis to the extreme of the glan (streched, not erectioon, I was not measured under erection), so it is not a big pennis at all. Doctor said that it would be the size of my pennis after the surgery, so not a big deal. My wife has enough with that size as long as the erection is good.

Post surgery was a hell. I left the quirofan with 80% of inflation. I am not going to talk about pain, just no cateter for piss. I left the hospital 24 hours afrer surgery, with my 80% inflation, a 'king size' right testicle and a tremendows pain in all the zone, scrotum, pennis, pubiis, everything ached.

Five days later, I went to the consultation. Doctor deflated the pump to about 30%, and told me to take analgesics for pain, and a jockstrap. Without jockstrap, I wasn't able even to be standing, no to talk about walking: the scrotum ache was so unbearabable that I could not support even with analgesycs. Because of that, I went to the consultation 3 days later. Doctor said there was no infection, so he increased rhe dosis of pills and recommend patient, and deflated the pump completely, leaving the pennis completely flaccid (which for bionic men, it not like before, always has some hardness).

Ache was reducing little by little, but my right testicle was a big ball of inflamation still. Doctor dated me for 14th October (one month after surgery) in order to teach me the handle of the pump. I went to the date, but the right testicle was so inflamated that he wasn't able to make the lessons. It was too ache. He then told me to take ibuprofen twice a day during 10 days, and come again in 7 days.

The right testicle inflamation begun then to reduce, so yesterday finnaly went to learn to use the pump. He teach me to inflate and deflate, and I receive the first bad surprise: I press the pump several times until I am not able to press it more, I suppose that it is because it has reached the maximum fill of the cylinders. And my pennis, though I haven't measured, seems at least one or two centimeters shorter. Doctor says that it is enough to have sexual relationships, and it will grow to the original size of 10 cm.

He has instruct to fill the pump once a day and keep it for 15 or 20 minutes, and begin to have sex when I have no ache. I have told my wife I will be ready for sex in one week or so. And I have some doubts in this rehab. I have been reading internet for the matter, and I have read people that says to fill the cylinders to maximum twice a day during 1-2 hours. Other say that fill them before sleep and left all night..Other say that inflate to the limit of the ache, and try a little more as time goes by...

I don't know if it is because lack of practice, but I am not able to push the pump more at one time, and when I reach that point, the pennis is hard like a rock, but smaller than even when I saw after the sugery when it was supossed to be inflated to 80%. When I reach that point, I don't feel ache, just a little bothering tightness.

In your experience, which would be the better routine to recover size as soon as possible? I am very afraid of the size, and about my incapacity to pump the cylinders. Keep in mind that for me is very difficult to find one or two hours in the day to have the pennis in erection, apart from sleep time at night.

Which would be your advice? And, last but no least: after six weeks, how is possible that I have still some ache? How much time is needed to not have any annoyance?

Thank you very much.

Ahh, I forget it. My prothesys is Coloplast titan one touch, and the surgery report tells that two 20 cm cylinders has been used, which is very surprising because it doubles my pennis size,


Welcome!

Sure you recover soon. Be patient.

I am planing to get an implant next year and i am from Spain too.

Qué doctor te ha operado y en qué clinica?

Un saludo y mucho ánimo!! :)
32 years old. ED all of my life alleged by venous leak.
Surgery 05 Feb 2020 by Dr Roselló (Spain)
Titan Touch 20 cm + 1,5 cm RTE
Absolutely satisfied

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Re: New 'bionic' man. Worries and questions

Postby oneperson » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:38 pm

Thanks.
I have inflated to the point I think is 100%.No wrinkles, cylinders are soft and erection is very hard. Tomorrow i will post two photos and explain in more detail.

Just to point. It can be ilussory but not because the belly. I have a belly but not enough to hide my pennis :)
Implanted September 12nd 2019. Coloplast Titan OTR 20 cm + 1 cm RTE. Dr Cruz (Spain). Liver transplanted. Born in 1967. ED since 24 in different degrees. Pills stopped working in March 2019. Injections caused much pain.


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