Being a Grower and the Penile Stretch Test

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young_and_impotent
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Re: Being a Grower and the Penile Stretch Test

Postby young_and_impotent » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:11 pm

Same boat, more of a grower. My doc didn't even mention a stretch test, He said the implant representative will have multiple devices on hand during the surgery. He will pick one after inserting the malleable rod thing and sizing the penis or something.

I will be lying if I said I'm not concerned about it. But as Chiefy said working dick is more important than dead dick.
28 year old with severe lifelong ED.
Implanted in New Delhi on 26/12/19 with AMS CX (15x12) + 4cm RTE
Post op length 4.5 inches from ~ (5.5 to 6) inches. Disappointed!
Wish to have a revision to LGX some day.

QuestionGuy
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Re: Being a Grower and the Penile Stretch Test

Postby QuestionGuy » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:25 pm

I am in same boat as OP. 3X3 flaccid, 6X6 erect, and up to 7” in vacuum tube. My stretch test comes out at 5”, and I have all the same concerns as everyone here, however, I have some questions that do not seem to be addressed anywhere, and wonder if anyone has any insights:

1) Part of the Penis is within the body. When the Penis becomes erect, more of what was inside the body cavity moves into view. When the power of the vacuum is used, the device itself becomes quite snug against the pelvis, exposing even more. Is it possible that what these surgeons are saying is true, (in that the overall length of the implant will be determined by the space available in the penis which they are operating on) and that what you see protruding out of you, (at various points in your recovery journey), are determined by how much of what’s “inside” makes its way “outside”?

2) Once implanted, the maximum possible length of the penis is determined by how long the implant is fully inflated. Are men “gaining length via cycling” by getting to the point where they use maximum inflation, and begin to feel that through this stretching of the original penis they now have more capacity………. so they get a second operation with a larger implant?

I am currently doing traction and VED, and I think I’ll’ do it till the day of surgery, and then “cross my fingers and hope for the best”. I’ve seen post s where guys advocate traction and VED after the implant…. But I am at a loss as to how that would help. I would think cycling the implant with the goal of maximum inflation would be all you could do once implanted.
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WindWizard
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Re: Being a Grower and the Penile Stretch Test

Postby WindWizard » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:43 pm

young_and_impotent wrote:Same boat, more of a grower. My doc didn't even mention a stretch test, He said the implant representative will have multiple devices on hand during the surgery. He will pick one after inserting the malleable rod thing and sizing the penis or something.

I will be lying if I said I'm not concerned about it. But as Chiefy said working dick is more important than dead dick.


Yeah some docs reportedly don't use it as the only accurate way to really measure the size of the implant is going to be during surgery after inserting the rod. Either way, ultimately the stretch test isn't necessary or even important, the important thing is that the surgeon sizes you properly during surgery, which hopefully your surgeon will do.

Yes, I feel you very much haha. Being as young as we are it would be great to be able to maintain our size, but ultimately even if we lose some size it's better than living with ED for the rest of our lives. That said, I think we have good reasons to be hopeful, if our surgeons size us correctly we shouldn't lose anything.
20 years old. Severe ED for the past 5 years due to scar tissue.
Tried shockwave therapy in Greece, and PRP shot from Dr. Goldstein in San Diego. Both with no results.
Implanted with a AMS LGX 18cm + 2 RTEs, performed by Dr. Edward Karpman - 10/8/2019

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Re: Being a Grower and the Penile Stretch Test

Postby Lost Sheep » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:19 pm

QuestionGuy wrote:I am in same boat as OP. 3X3 flaccid, 6X6 erect, and up to 7” in vacuum tube. My stretch test comes out at 5”, and I have all the same concerns as everyone here, however, I have some questions that do not seem to be addressed anywhere, and wonder if anyone has any insights:

1) Part of the Penis is within the body. When the Penis becomes erect, more of what was inside the body cavity moves into view. When the power of the vacuum is used, the device itself becomes quite snug against the pelvis, exposing even more. Is it possible that what these surgeons are saying is true, (in that the overall length of the implant will be determined by the space available in the penis which they are operating on) and that what you see protruding out of you, (at various points in your recovery journey), are determined by how much of what’s “inside” makes its way “outside”?

2) Once implanted, the maximum possible length of the penis is determined by how long the implant is fully inflated. Are men “gaining length via cycling” by getting to the point where they use maximum inflation, and begin to feel that through this stretching of the original penis they now have more capacity………. so they get a second operation with a larger implant?

I am currently doing traction and VED, and I think I’ll’ do it till the day of surgery, and then “cross my fingers and hope for the best”. I’ve seen post s where guys advocate traction and VED after the implant…. But I am at a loss as to how that would help. I would think cycling the implant with the goal of maximum inflation would be all you could do once implanted.

VED gave me an illusory extra 3/4 inch or more. I am more concerned about the 5 inches stretched vs 6 in natural erection. Can you get a 6 inch erection NOW? Not from memory, but now.
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Gt1956
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Re: Being a Grower and the Penile Stretch Test

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:15 pm

QuestionGuy wrote:I am in same boat as OP. 3X3 flaccid, 6X6 erect, and up to 7” in vacuum tube. My stretch test comes out at 5”, and I have all the same concerns as everyone here, however, I have some questions that do not seem to be addressed anywhere, and wonder if anyone has any insights:

1) Part of the Penis is within the body. When the Penis becomes erect, more of what was inside the body cavity moves into view. When the power of the vacuum is used, the device itself becomes quite snug against the pelvis, exposing even more. Is it possible that what these surgeons are saying is true, (in that the overall length of the implant will be determined by the space available in the penis which they are operating on) and that what you see protruding out of you, (at various points in your recovery journey), are determined by how much of what’s “inside” makes its way “outside”?

2) Once implanted, the maximum possible length of the penis is determined by how long the implant is fully inflated. Are men “gaining length via cycling” by getting to the point where they use maximum inflation, and begin to feel that through this stretching of the original penis they now have more capacity………. so they get a second operation with a larger implant?

I am currently doing traction and VED, and I think I’ll’ do it till the day of surgery, and then “cross my fingers and hope for the best”. I’ve seen post s where guys advocate traction and VED after the implant…. But I am at a loss as to how that would help. I would think cycling the implant with the goal of maximum inflation would be all you could do once implanted.

All of the measurements & logic that you're using only pertain to your external penis. During arousal your external penis grows. Some of the implant that is internal to your body is not inflatable. So it's a moot point. You really need to watch some surgery videos. It all will become very clear to you then.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

SW0110
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Re: Being a Grower and the Penile Stretch Test

Postby SW0110 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:57 pm

Sad thing is nothing anyone says on here will make 1 cm difference.

A good doc will size you as aggressively as they safely can. I read one journal where eid may have been to aggressive and the individual had to much cylinder length. He actually offered to revise and reduce the implant length. I think he told the guy he could get the implant comped because of his good relationship but surgery center fees would still be paid by someone.

My doc said get in a hot shower stretch and that should be close. For me just under 6 inches. That for me was .75 less than my ved size. I never expected my old 7 inches. 3 years of ed and peyronies cost me about 1.5 inches.

Ved and traction helped me get some back before my implant. I hate to say it but it is all a roll of the dice. The only real thing you can do is pick a good doc. They will do a good job of measuring you with the rods inside your penis during surgery and will put the max they safely can. Any other measurement actually has no bearing on what you will get. You are out and will have no say in it.

If you choose eid he will let you stay awake if you choose so if you are able to might be able to have a conversation with him if you like when he does the measurement. With him you probably are guaranteed to get as long a cylinder as he thinks you can handle.

One thing you do want to ask about is rte policy. Rtes do not inflate at all. More rtes equal less inflatable length. Less rte is better period. The only time you should get an rte is if you are in between sizes for implants or your body needs them to get tubes lined up for pump.

One thing to watch for is when you can pump up. Where are your tips. If they are well into your glans you are good. Do you ache in your tip when you pump up. Also maybe good unless you got oversized in which case not so good.

The one thing you have control over and pretty much the only thing is your choice of doc. Make that choice carefully. After you are implanted it is a part of you until someone takes it out.

I think there was a line in one of the raiders of the lost ark movies.

Choose wisely.
18 cm plus 1 rte titan installed March 2019. Revision March 2020 by Dr. Andrew Todd, Richmond KY. He replaced the titan with an AMS 700 LGX 18 cm cylinder plus 2 rte for 20 cm total length.


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