Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

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William8
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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby William8 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:40 am

ViaSwiss wrote:Dr. Christine does live webinars for other physicians once a quarter or so. I watched on of them and you see that he is very precise is his methods. If you google him you see a number of good resources.


Thank you!
4 years suffering from peyronie's / penile deformity causing loss in length and girth. Cialis + Pentox but continued shrinkage. Erections less frequent and quality poorer. Attempting to find out more about implants. 40 years old

jfruedam
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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby jfruedam » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:23 am

ok, so I am refloating this post. Basically this is my situation: I have 18.000 USD saved, and those are my whole life savings, nothing left after that. I am 30 and live in a country where currency is highly depreciated against dollar value. Nothing I can do about that, I have a well paid job where I live.

So basically this would be a one shot thing for me if I travel. If something fails, then I am fucked. Zero money for revisions or something like that. That is a big concern tbh. I know implants have a life time warranty, but is it associated with the doctor itself? Let say it fails and need a revision, would the company make the "warranty" valid if the revision was done by a local urologist, that way I would only have to pay for the surgery costs should the device fail. Honestly don't know how this works. Just thinking about a back up plan, because face it, I have to be realistic here and think about worst case scenario.

So is that, or going to a local urologist which I can afford, and at least in that case I would have accessible medical company should any issue arise. But the best one I could find is someone who has had some training with Dr. Perito technique, that's it.

So, that is the point I am right now. My company has actually an open position with the possibility of relocation to Europe, but not a "fancy" country, Bulgaria. I think I am a good fit for it, and it would allow me to start earning money in Euros, but honestly I don't think if in my current situation I would be able to handle things, I am extremely mentally and emotionally vulnerable.

Just wondering if someone has some advice for me. What would you do in my position?

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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby newbie443 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:47 pm

jfruedam wrote:ok, so I am refloating this post. Basically this is my situation: I have 18.000 USD saved, and those are my whole life savings, nothing left after that. I am 30 and live in a country where currency is highly depreciated against dollar value. Nothing I can do about that, I have a well paid job where I live.

So basically this would be a one shot thing for me if I travel. If something fails, then I am fucked. Zero money for revisions or something like that. That is a big concern tbh. I know implants have a life time warranty, but is it associated with the doctor itself? Let say it fails and need a revision, would the company make the "warranty" valid if the revision was done by a local urologist, that way I would only have to pay for the surgery costs should the device fail. Honestly don't know how this works. Just thinking about a back up plan, because face it, I have to be realistic here and think about worst case scenario.

So is that, or going to a local urologist which I can afford, and at least in that case I would have accessible medical company should any issue arise. But the best one I could find is someone who has had some training with Dr. Perito technique, that's it.

So, that is the point I am right now. My company has actually an open position with the possibility of relocation to Europe, but not a "fancy" country, Bulgaria. I think I am a good fit for it, and it would allow me to start earning money in Euros, but honestly I don't think if in my current situation I would be able to handle things, I am extremely mentally and emotionally vulnerable.

Just wondering if someone has some advice for me. What would you do in my position?


I was much in the same as you years back. I was able to get to a point where I could borrow what I needed to travel for this. My local urologists only do 2-3 of these a year and the doctors and the patients they implanted that I talked to all said I would lose an inch in length. I pulled the pin and rolled the dice and traveled.

So my advice would be to go see the local doctor who has some training with Dr. Perito. And tell him what you are considering. And that Dr. Perito is one of the doctors you are looking at. I would ask if he would be able to provide follow up care for you if you did go to another well known doctor. I would also ask about revision surgery. My local doctor said they do not do reoperations and send patients out somewhere for them so you really need to ask. Just in case you have a problem with the pump or tubing. And I would research the Perito trained doctor to find out how many implants he does a year. Maybe even ask to speak with patients he implanted. See if you can find out what is the doctor's infection rate is. Does the doctor try to minimize or eliminate size lose. Get all the information you can. If you decide your best choice is to travel then do your research on that to. Now this is just what I would do. No one can or should tell you what you should do. For me I went into surgery knowing I had done my research and made the best choice for me.

As far as the original topic. I would add this link. https://surgeo.com/penile-implant

I have heard good things from others on this site for:

Dr. Blick Phoenix AZ $19,800

Dr. Hakky Snellville GA (Atlanta) $18,100

Best of luck to you going forward with.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6" L 5" G Dr. Kramer. https://youtu.be/QPu9pLBM0wM

63 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby Agfa13 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:38 pm

My insurance is UnitedHealthCare, so compared to you guys, my cost was pretty low.
But I found out the hard way (no pun) to ask about Drs involved, anesthisiologists, covered surgery, hospital/facility fee, etc. Spoke to the surgery center, asked for names, looked them up...basically, I did some homework and footwork because of the surprise from the 1st surgery 2 years ago.
This 2nd one, implant surgery, should be covered all around, but I am not taking that for granted, as I know anesthisiologists are usually the biggest culprit for out of pocket costs that most people do not think/ask about.

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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby Pete5829 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:29 am

Just wanted to say, I’m in Canada and it was free! Had to wait about 5 months but surgeon was excellent, aftercare has been great and hospital was state of the art. I was implanted with the AMS 700 MS.
49 years old. Implanted 10/18/2019 AMS 700 Dr Daniel Rapaport, Vancouver BC Canada Activated 11/21/2019

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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby St1pan2019 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:40 pm

Hey Pete.... just sent you a PM
40 yrs old, ED from Scleroderma since 2010, married since 2004, was using VED/rings for sex as injections/pills didn't work, Also on Testosterone injection therapy
Implanted 1/9/2020
Dr. Eid, Titan Touch 20+1cm rte
Reside in Ontario, Canada

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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby jump.ship » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:51 pm

The first surgery is everything. You can go to the top doc to get fitted correctly. Then if you can't afford to go back, the local surgeon can just follow what the top doc did for revisions.

If you need more money, then wait. This is my top priority in life right now so that is what I am doing. Waiting and saving. Boring, but I want the best, so I must wait.
ED from day one. Pills semi work. Implant in the works. 36 years. Uk based.

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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby Agfa13 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:33 am

Curious....these out of pocket costs. Your insurance does not cover ANYTHING on implants?
Does this include people flying elsewhere to get the implant?
56, Maryland, revised with Titan on 3/2/20
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AMS cx at 24cm, now have Titan Classic 20 cm
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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby newbie443 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:25 am

jump.ship wrote:The first surgery is everything. You can go to the top doc to get fitted correctly. Then if you can't afford to go back, the local surgeon can just follow what the top doc did for revisions.



My local doctor said revisions are more difficult and enough so that they do not do them. So check about this first.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6" L 5" G Dr. Kramer. https://youtu.be/QPu9pLBM0wM

63 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: Updated out of pocket implant costs for a few docs (Aug 2019)

Postby newbie443 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:23 pm

Lucky 3% wrote:Curious....these out of pocket costs. Your insurance does not cover ANYTHING on implants?
Does this include people flying elsewhere to get the implant?


I have an EPO health care plan and spend aprox. 17,000 every year for insurance and health care. My plan covers only my local docs to do implant but not all the charges. My local doc's leave a man inflated for 8 weeks before activating. They require an over night stay at the surgery center (not covered by insurance) and my insurance only pays so much for the device. Most likely enough to cover malleable so I would have had to pay the difference in price for a Titan or LGX. And those costs do not go count on my deductible or max out of pocket. My local guys do 2-3 a year. They say this is a very difficult surgery and do not do revisions. They all say I will loose at least an inch with surgery as did the patients I talked to that had this done by them. They either could not or would not provide infection rate information. This would have cost me 4-7K out of pocket and the business office wanted cash up front.

So I decided to travel out of state and pay 100% out of pocket. My EPO (Exclusive Provider Organization) plan only had coverage for a handful of doctors in part of my home state. Outside that zero coverage. The doctor I went to required 3 checks. The total being 24K. That covered everything for the procedure except my surgery health certification. I had that done with my local primary care doctor and it cost me under $200. Remember to keep records of travel and lodging cost as well as meal receipts. All of those can be used when you file your yearly tax return.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6" L 5" G Dr. Kramer. https://youtu.be/QPu9pLBM0wM

63 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.


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