With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby postra7777 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:00 pm

From what I understand. The Titan will give you a larger flaccid unit than the AMS (I have the AMS and I am about 3" flaccid). I hear that Titan's flaccid length is about the same as the pumped up length. If you go with the AMS you can also pump it to get the semi flaccid length you want. It's a wonderful thing.
Suffered with ED for most of my life. Viagra then to Trimix then implanted 3/8/2018 with AMX 700 CX 21cm with 1cm RTE. 50 years old Urolift procedure performed 30 day prior to my implant surgery.

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby Evinrude » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:26 pm

bldoink wrote:
Evinrude wrote:.... Apparently we are both going under the knife in Florida just a day apart. (Mayo Clinic in JAX for me).....

Who is your doctor at Mayo Jax?
Gregory Broderick
Age 68, widower in 2017, remarried 2019. Viagra worked at first but less and less so as time went on. Never tried injections. AMS 700 LGX 15cm (2cm RTE) Implant 6/19/19 Broderick @ Mayo C. JAX.

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby bldoink » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:33 pm

Thanks.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby David_R » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:02 pm

Gt1956 wrote:No personal experience on my part. But I have noticed that most "growers" report an increase in flaccid length. That makes sense to me because the implant cylinders don't really shrink back much. I guess you could suggest that the implant keeps your flaccid length stretched out a little bit. I haven't noticed a consistent amount but it sure seems like a lot of implanted members report that.
Oh, also it would be hard to truly tell because each man doesn't deflate to the same residual cylinder volume.

I totally agree with you, brother.

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby Gt1956 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:10 pm

Thanks David _R, another perhaps complicating factor. I haven't checked but I bet that the outcome (for several things) differs between those that have lost their prostate & those that haven't. Despite having the same implant, there are some anatomical differences internally amongst us.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby oldbeek » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:17 am

Gt1956 wrote:Thanks David _R, another perhaps complicating factor. I haven't checked but I bet that the outcome (for several things) differs between those that have lost their prostate & those that haven't. Despite having the same implant, there are some anatomical differences internally amongst us.

There is a misconception about prostate removal creates a vacant space that shortens your penis. Your penis is not shortened by RP surgery. Your penis is anchored inside your cruses. The cruses are anchored to the inside of your thighs by the cruse muscles. My implant is set deep into my cruses which extends the base down almost to my anus. From there to the glans is 9 inch, but 3 inch is buried and unusable.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby merrix » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:40 am

Nobody can answer that question 100% correct covering all individuals, doctors and patients combinations and what the outcome will be - of course.

But logically, and from my own experience, I would say something like this:

With a Titan you will probably get the largest flaccid. Why? Because it doesn't increase (much) in length when inflated. Maybe just a few mm. Furthermore, its material is stiffer than the AMS material, which means it doesn't get "pushed back" as much by the flesh of the flaccid penis. In my case, my inflated dick when aroused (blood filled glans) is about 17.5 cm (6.9"). My inflated non-aroused (non swelled glans) is around 16.5 cm (6.5"). My flaccid dick is around 15 cm (5.9"). Which actually means that my cylinders lengthen around 1.5 cm (0.6") when inflated. I think most of it is simply because some tiny crinkles straighten out when I inflate.
So, yes, a Titan should give you a flaccid close to your erection.

An AMS LGX whould not give you a flaccid at same size as the erection. Simply because the whole point of an LGX is that the cylinders grow in length when inflated. And hence shrink in length when deflated. AMS claim 20% lengthening. A theoretical (and probably not 100% correct in reality) reasoning would say this:
Say your dick when erect is 15 cm. Your tips go till 1.5 cm from your tip. Your total length of the implant in your dick is 13.5 cm. The rule of thumb states that 2/3 of your implant is in your dick and 1/3 inside your body. So your total implant length must be 20 cm. When inflated. If it grows 20% when inflated, it must be 20/1.2 when deflated, which is around 17 cm. Hence, it shrinks 3 cm when deflated. So if you're 15 cm erect, you'll be 12 cm flaccid... Of course, if your doc stacks you up with lots of RTEs, the difference between flaccid and erect will be smaller, since a smaller part of the implant has the possibility to grow/shrink.
Very theoretical, but I guess it gives a hint.

For the AMS CX, it should be similar to the Titan since the implant does not change in length when inflated. The material is softer though, so a CX should be more pliable than a Titan when flaccid. And on the flip side, not quite as hard when inflated either...

Regarding increasing length of the flaccid by inflating it a bit. I'd say for sure that in the case of a Titan, this doesn't work. Simply because it doesn't get noticeable longer when inflated. For me to gain the 1.5 cm difference between flaccid and non-aroused erect, I'd have to pump it so hard that it's be impossible to wear any clothes. What I can do is give it a few pumps, 5-10, to just make it fuller and visible in my clohtes. But it doesn't really get longer. Maybe a few non noticeable mm.

With an LGX, without personal experience, I guess it is sort of the same thing. To get any noticeable length increase, you'd have to pump it to a level where it gets too stiff to wear comfortably in clothes. Not to the same level as with a Titan of course, but still. Since an LGX does increase length when inflated, I suppose it starts doing so from pump #1. But if you only have 3 cm to gain when fully inflated, we do maybe have 1 cm to gain from inflating it a third of the volume. And already then I guess the stifness in clothes becomes a problem.

But to make it simple, I think it is safe to say the Titan will give you the largest flaccid. Some like that, some don't. But then of course, there are other considerations when it comes to which type will be best than flaccid size...
43 yo, ED forever from VL
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Implanted December 2015
Titan XL 24 cm, no RTEs
Dr. Eid
Activated day 13
Sex after 3 weeks
Gained length and girth
So far It works perfectly
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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby andrew1959nj » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:03 pm

Bailey,

I was a big grower as my flacid cock at its ED worse would remind me of a used condom. But with pills, shots, and inspiration it would grow to 7" and was girthy. Now one-month post-implant my flacid length is about the same as my hard length. My glands still grow when aroused. I have a titan and it neither shrinks or lengthens. It is not like a balloon, it just inflates, the more I pump, the harder it gets. Think of it like a garden hose with a nozzle on the end. When the water pressure is on, it gets hard.
60 years old. MS and Severe ED 10+ years. Pills and injections never worked well. Implanted 5/16/2019 by Dr. Sadeghi. Titan 20cm + 2cm RTE.

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby Happy Toy » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:48 pm

I have the Titan, and now my flaccid (squeezed out as much fluid as possible), I am 3.5" flaccid and fully pumped, 5'5" bone press, or a gain of 2" from flaccid to erect. Where before my implant, I would grow from 1 inch to 5.5" or a gain of 4.5". So as far as what you can expect, I think it depends on what you have now before your implant. If like some lucky guys you are a shower, Large flaccid dick, then just like your natural erections, the implant is not going to "grow" you all that much, it will just get hard and bigger around (girth). But if you were a "grower" like I was, you will still grow just not as much since you are starting with a longer flaccid dick. But every guy is different and are going to have different results, but the main thing is that you will be able to be hard whenever and for as long as you want and that is why we are doing this in the first place isn't it??
Andy
Implanted 6/26/2018, Coloplast Titan 20cm, no RTE'S, infra pubic, Dr. Rhee, Kaiser :o 8-) 79yrs., married 56 yrs. ED for over 20 yrs.

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Re: With implant is flaccid length somewhat optional ?

Postby SW0110 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:33 pm

My titan implant is between 5.5 and 5.75 inches flaccid. Pumped up hard it is right at 6.25 inches.

Pre implant I was always around 5 inches flaccid and 7 erect. So far lost about .75 inches due to peyronies. Dents. Plaque. Hoping over the years I get back to my 7. Will need a revision though as my 19 cm sits pretty good right now. Tips are well in glans. At 3.5 months implanted I am still cycling and am still uncomfortable so maybe still stretching some.

Either way happy as a tick on an old hound dog. Absolutely glad I am implanted. No more curve, no more ved or traction. Hated that s###. No pills, definitely no injecting. Just a hard erection when I want it. Flaccid or hard it is here when I need it.
18 cm plus 1 rte titan installed March 2019. Revision March 2020 by Dr. Andrew Todd, Richmond KY. He replaced the titan with an AMS 700 LGX 18 cm cylinder plus 2 rte for 20 cm total length.


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