What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

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jump.ship
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What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby jump.ship » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:30 am

Hey,

Does it not seem REALLY weird to anyone else that Europe does not have a single surgeon that can guarantee what the likes of Eid can guarantee?

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THIS PICTURE? Lol.

I've made moves to go to the US for a big implanter, but I have to say that this is causing me quite a bit of extra stress.

The thought of the travel, the extra expense, but most importantly, in the event of complications, having to travel back would be awful, traumatic even. And what if I developed further complications and had to stay in hospital for a month and ended up with a massive bill?

No-one knows I am doing this so that adds a level of stress too.

If I could stay in the UK, these extra concerns would disappear. This would lift such a weight off my shoulders.

However, I want to be sized correctly and do not want any RTEs.

Can anyone that has used Mr David Ralph let me know your experience?

Specifically:

Did you lose any length?

Did you need an RTE?

(I know RTEs are useful sometimes, but why do I rarely see them used with Eid? I am only going by peoples signatures on this site, but he seems to only use them if necessary, when other surgeons seem to use them as standard.)

Honestly, do I really have to travel to the US to get a guarantee on it being fitting to perfection?

Thanks
Uk Based - 39 Years
ED from day one - VL confirmed with NHS
Implanted Jan 2022 - Dr Eid - 22cm Titan / no RTEs

strongagain
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby strongagain » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:22 am

My surgeon is excellent, he does many implants, his clinic is a Center of Excellence. I didn't lose any length. I have some RTEs - so what? Nothing wobbles, my dick is hard and stiff like a pole.

I do know Dr. Leiber since many years (he is operating in Freiburg, Black Forest - my town of birth), he is the head of the urological department. One of the best implant surgeons in Germany.

If you do not want any RTEs, well, talk to your surgeon, he can maybe do it without or with little RTEs. Dr. Eid takes longer implants and cuts off some portion at the back. That's how he can do it without using RTEs. Quite clever but surely other surgeons can do it as well. Talk to your surgeon.
Born in 1950, ED since 2007 (colon cancer)
08/2015 Titan Zero Degree 22 cm + 3 cm RTE
Dr. Leiber, Freiburg, Germany
6.5" x 5.7" - Very happy with implant

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Robert1966
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby Robert1966 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:03 pm

See the bottom of the thread..
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12495

there is now a Centre of Excellence in the UK
Born 1958, ED issues following prostatectomy in 2009 for PCa. Used Cialis and prostaglandin but ultimately unworkable. Implanted 2/6/2018, 20cm Titan no RTE

jump.ship
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby jump.ship » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:43 am

Hey,

Thanks for the responses.

The Center of Excellence in the UK, do you have a link for it? I cant find anything on google, but I assume David Ralph is in one?

Eid cuts off the back of the implant, really??

I would like to talk to the surgeon, but I don't feel like it would be a frank conversation.

Me: Can we avoid RTEs?
Doc: Of course. I only use them if necessary.

Me: Will I be sized correctly?
Doc: All my patients eventually regain full length.

I can't imagine getting past the stock answers.
Uk Based - 39 Years
ED from day one - VL confirmed with NHS
Implanted Jan 2022 - Dr Eid - 22cm Titan / no RTEs

BustedBob
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby BustedBob » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:57 pm

I've had and got issues with mine. If I'd have paid for it I'd want money back but I didn't so, we'll, I guess you get what you pay for.
45
ED 20 plus years-venous leakage, Peyronies for the last 3 years.
Implanted October 2017 at UCLH London, England. Titan Touch.

Ruktitan
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby Ruktitan » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 pm

BustedBob wrote:I've had and got issues with mine. If I'd have paid for it I'd want money back but I didn't so, we'll, I guess you get what you pay for.


Im interested to know in your issues? Who did your surgery.
Ive also had mine done at UCLH and have issues with first undersizing. Now the pump is upside down!
29 years old. Suffered with ED since 17. No known cause. First Implanted date 23/3/2018. Cylinders way too short and revised by different surgeon 2019. 22cm titan.
Cylinders still short and now pump is upside down and protruding. Awaiting 3rd revision

jump.ship
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby jump.ship » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:25 am

BustedBob wrote:I've had and got issues with mine. If I'd have paid for it I'd want money back but I didn't so, we'll, I guess you get what you pay for.


Hey. Did you have issues with sizing?

Thanks
Uk Based - 39 Years
ED from day one - VL confirmed with NHS
Implanted Jan 2022 - Dr Eid - 22cm Titan / no RTEs

antelope
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby antelope » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:20 pm

To answer the question, scarcity of specialists and long waiting periods are two ways that medical care is rationed under a government run program.
Born 1948, wed 1969. BPH & Type II Diabetes at age 35. TURP-2002; ED even before that--diabetes. Cardiac valve surgery: 2007 & 2019. Poor results with pills. Started trimix injections in Nov, 2010. Great results from the very beginning.

jump.ship
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby jump.ship » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:19 pm

antelope wrote:To answer the question, scarcity of specialists and long waiting periods are two ways that medical care is rationed under a government run program.


This is definitely an example of the private sector producing better results that's for sure!
Uk Based - 39 Years
ED from day one - VL confirmed with NHS
Implanted Jan 2022 - Dr Eid - 22cm Titan / no RTEs

Gt1956
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Re: What is with the European Surgeon Scarcity?

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:49 pm

antelope wrote:To answer the question, scarcity of specialists and long waiting periods are two ways that medical care is rationed under a government run program.

I can't agree more. Despite popular opinion, medical care is rationed around the world. It just depends upon the method used.
I live under the medical flight path between several large hospitals. I get flown over several times a day. I have relatives in a very nice European country. They live quite a distance, by car, from a hospital. They were telling me how long it takes to get emergency medical care. I said that Americans solve that by using helicopters. Different country, different solutions.
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