Penile traction device or VED before implant opinions?

[Hoping]

Hi everyone,
Another post and was hoping to get some input from you guys.
I'm in the process of getting ready to get an implant. I've lost around a half inch, maybe a bit more or so from ED over the years and trying to get it back prior to surgery. I've heard you can lose length from the implant surgery so I'm trying to hopefully get back close to where I was before the ED started. (Sucks thinking about length loss from ED and additional length loss from implant surgery, I'm not working with a ton of length)
I don't really want to wait any longer than 3 months though to get my implant as life has sucked for a while with ED and just want to get on with my life and put this behind me.
How fast does using a VED like Encore hopefully get you back to where you were prior to ED?
Is anyone familiar with a penile traction device called "Restorex"? It's something that hooks up to your penis and is supposed to stretch the tissue in length. It seems really great but it is $500 and hoping to know a little more about it. It claims to increase length a little and actually has shown apparently to improve erection quality to some degree.
Any input is appreciated, thanks guys
(Also my doctor has much more confidence in the Titan and so that's what he would put in me, not sure how much of a difference that would make)

[Lost Sheep]

Traction should help with length. But length is only one-third of the effect that a Vacuum Device can give. And, at $500, triple the price of what you would have to pay for a halfway decent V.E.D.

Elasticity and size of your tissues in length is one thing a VED can begin to (at least partially) restore if recently lost. Elasticity and size of your girth is another. (Note that women tend to value girth over length for coital sex.) The VED also infuses your tissues with blood, at least partially the arterial blood that is laden with oxygen. Your tissues need to be flushed with oxygenated blood to wash out accumulated byproducts of life and provide freshening of the nutrients carried in new blood. VEDs bring some blood back in from the veins, but also fresh blood from the arteries.

Nocturnal erections do this naturally. A VED can emulate the stretching and flushing a LOT better than a traction device, in my opinion.

I used a VED (not for sex, it was unsatisfactory the two times we tried, though it did get her close to orgasm before the image she saw of my penis turning purple got to be too much of a distraction for her to concentrate; also, the constriction ring was uncomfortable) for rehabilitation. Rehab does NOT include using the constriction ring!

You do not need a medical-grade VED for these benefits. You can build your own from cheap novelty/sex shop devices and a vacuum pump (brake bleed device) from an auto parts store, or get away for far under $100 at your local sex shop. I used one without a vacuum gauge and observed my penis as a guide for when vacuum was too great and suffered no permanent ill effects, just a couple of days of edema once or twice.

Bottom line: Traction device (particularly at $500) is to be avoided. V.E.D. is the way to go, and legitimate peer-reviewed medical journals agree.

[Gt1956]

I fail to see the benefits of trying to stretch blood starved penile tissue. Your dick, your call. I'm not aware of an easy way to repair any torn tissue if that does happen. Pay your $500, take your chance.
Why are you so concerned over losing half an inch? The difference between a great erection & a medium erection is larger than that. There is a very good chance that with a bit of luck you might gain back more than the half inch with an implant.
Btw, do you have any peronies indications? If you do you'll likely lose length in getting your dick straightened out.

[gautengrob]

Pumped for three weeks before surgery got about the half inch back I lost to age and Ed stretched that is. People swear by it but you won’t get any bigger than you were born with I agree girth is where it’s at i started around 7 if I get to 6.5 to 7 I’ll be happy as a clam if I go up in girth hell im smiling. Even perrito said three weeks prior is all you need to do and I would assume he knows his dicks

[oldbeek]

VED does get the blood flowing and makes tissue more healthy. I used a cheap hand operated VED from Amazon. $20.00. It drew me out about 1/2 longer than I had with trimix.

[Hoping]

Okay I just ordered an Encore VED, should be able to start trying it by this weekend. I'm still tempted to try Restorex as well but I'll look into it a little more and try out this VED.
(Still a little tempted to see if Restorex can somehow improve my erection quality (although right now it's so bad it can't really work miracles probably) but still am tempted to try a little bit more before surgery just so I know in my mind I tried everything would put me more at ease))

I'm more so concerned about the loss of a half inch because I would hate to lose additional length also from the surgery. (So who knows maybe an inch in total length loss idk) Trying to maximize what I was born with before going into the surgery. At least that would give me more reassurance thinking "yes i'll have an implant, but I won't shrink anymore from ED and will have the size penis I should have had before all this started for the rest of my life" (or something along those lines)
I don't have any curvature yet but if I keep doing injections I may end up with it. I've just lost length as far as I know and my veins that you see on the outside of my penis are much more enlarged from when I was younger. I feel like this is a reason I have venous leak, I visually can see a drastic difference unfortunately.
Before this started I remember doing a bone pressed measurement of a little more than 6.75", recently I've measured with a good erection from an injection being around 6.1 6.2 bone pressed, not much longer than that. So it's about a half inch but a little more in loss. But I've had at least moderate ED for 8.5 years.

How close could I get to that if I use a VED and then have surgery in your opinion?
(I'm probably a lot more self conscious about this because at my age this is all so horrifying to me and trying to make the best possible outcome given my situation)
I've heard that with a Titan it has better girth than LGX. Is that true? Maybe I'll have that going for me. I've never really measured my girth but it's average right now, I don't need large condoms.

Thanks for all the help and input guys

[csr1224]

There are many informative posts mixed with some that seem to not be able to help but sound very condescending.

I have been using a very good grade vacuum pump with both water and air pumping for about 3 years. Ive done no harm so long as i warm up properly without being over zealous. When in my 20's my longest natural erection was 6.25" bone pressed.

After 3 years i can now reach 8.25" in the tube. I seriously doubt that wont equate to at least a little gain post op should i get implanted. Perhaps in wrong. But i do know there is no way i could reach that kind of stretch prior to a solid pumping regimen.

Is there temp edema after an intense session...sure. It goes away. Ive felt the "burn" as it stretches. Sounds similar to post op guys inflating fully and stretching the tunica. But im sure to a lesser pressure by far compared to the internal pressure of a hard hard titan pressing out from the inside.

Anywho....im saying it is definitely possible to loosen tissue and slowly increase elasticity over time. My flaccid is definitely longer. My flaccid stretch is now 7.5/7.75" even months after not pumping with VED. Ive found those that dont gain also do not keep at it or most likely have pressures that dont stretch enough.
Keep at it.....because if you already have ED its prolly not gonna make it worse. Lol

[FMLFML85]

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[csr1224]

No i do not think using the VED contributed to ED. I was having issues with it well before starting a routine. I actually at times have noticed improvement in EQ after using my pump. Better or more frequent morning wood. And as far as my gf is concerned she doesnt care at all. She thinks its kinda funny. Understands my concerns and thinks perhaps i overdo it but doesnt have too much to say bout it. I dont feel embarrassed or judged.

[Skier123]

So I just read through this thread, and I see there is a legitimate difference of opinion on this topic.

My Surgeon has done a couple of peer reviewed studies that show a benefit from using traction prior to surgery. He thinks VED has only a temporary effect, since it does not do a great job a stretching the tunica like traction can.

He recommended I use traction for up to a year prior to surgery to regain some of the length I lost due to Peyronies. (I must admit I ran out of patience about 6 month's in and told him to just get on with it. )

So as with other important issues in life - you need to do your own homework and come to your own conclusions.

(PS I do think the other posters have valid arguments ... but I personally had no luck with getting any length gain at all when I tried VED - sample size of 1.)

FWIW