AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby Larry10625 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:33 pm

OK, I have the answer from the engineers. I'm not sure this is English (haha jk) but for what it is worth...

"there is not a “flow resistor” in the AMS 700 pump, but there is a cylinder check valve that holds pressure in the cylinders upon inflation. This valve must be displaced as part of the deflation operation to allow fluid to flow back out of the cylinders. In addition, there is a suction poppet that seals access to the cylinder ports and resists reservoir side pressure and spontaneous inflation when the system is not in use.”

Have a great day everyone. :)

Larry

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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby Hawkman » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:46 pm

Larry10625 wrote:OK, I have the answer from the engineers. I'm not sure this is English (haha jk) but for what it is worth...

"there is not a “flow resistor” in the AMS 700 pump, but there is a cylinder check valve that holds pressure in the cylinders upon inflation. This valve must be displaced as part of the deflation operation to allow fluid to flow back out of the cylinders. In addition, there is a suction poppet that seals access to the cylinder ports and resists reservoir side pressure and spontaneous inflation when the system is not in use.”

Have a great day everyone. :)

Larry


That's just what I was thinking... lol. We have a couple of hydraulic engineers on here that probably know what that means.
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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby oldbeek » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:12 am

I am a hydraulics engineer with 30 years experience building hydraulic systems. I just felt that users should know how the system works. That is why I called Jamie to get the facts straight. Her answer was no relief valve. Thank you Larry for double checking and confirming my findings. Initially I was not bickering with anyone, just trying to get the facts out there. Subject is put to bed!
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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby Larry10625 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:14 am

oldbeek wrote:I am a hydraulics engineer with 30 years experience building hydraulic systems. I just felt that users should know how the system works. That is why I called Jamie to get the facts straight. Her answer was no relief valve. Thank you Larry for double checking and confirming my findings. Initially I was not bickering with anyone, just trying to get the facts out there. Subject is put to bed!



Just before you put this topic to bed, can you explain what my answer means in ENGLISH??? Jamie is going to try but, I am impatient... :D

Larry

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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby oldbeek » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:46 am

Larry10625 wrote:OK, I have the answer from the engineers. I'm not sure this is English (haha jk) but for what it is worth...

"there is not a “flow resistor” in the AMS 700 pump, but there is a cylinder check valve that holds pressure in the cylinders upon inflation. This valve must be displaced as part of the deflation operation to allow fluid to flow back out of the cylinders. In addition, there is a suction poppet that seals access to the cylinder ports and resists reservoir side pressure and spontaneous inflation when the system is not in use.”

Have a great day everyone. :)

Larry

A flow resistor would be a small hole to slow the flow. Not there! A check valve allows the fluid to move in one direction. In the pump mode all the saline flows through this valve towards the penis and saline can not reverse direction back through the pump to the reservoir.. When you press the deflate button it offsets the check valve to allow the saline to return back to the reservoir. Being slightly offset makes the squeaking noise you hear as the fluid returns around the check valve. The suction poppet is what we call A lock valve or poppet valve that keeps the fluid in place until there is a preset amount of pressure to off set it as in squeezing the pump bulb that does create that pressure. It is nice to know exactly what is going on in the system.
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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby Tsanchez12369 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:28 pm

So the lock or poppet valve sets itself automatically after deflation for the AMS CX?
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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby Donnie1954 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:52 pm

Mine always has. I never 'pop' mine unless I am ready to pump up.
No one ever told me any different. Mine never auto fills. I will soon be two years implanted.
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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby Tsanchez12369 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:18 pm

Ok, I’ve been going w this and seems to work. Thxs!
Sept 11, 2018: excision, grafting (human cadever tissue) and implant. Doc is Dr Edward Karpman in Mountain View, surgery at El Camino Hospital, LOS Gatos CA. AMS 700 CX infrapubic 18 cm + 3 cm RTE. http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php

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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby oldbeek » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:43 am

Last 2 days I have not 'Popped" the pump after deflate. I have been doing some heavy work with lots of heavy lifting. I have had NO auto inflation. Guess poppet valve holds saline in place using either method.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: AMS 700 CX # pumps to max inflation

Postby Tsanchez12369 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:16 am

So, it seems 35-40 full pumps to me for max pump.
Sept 11, 2018: excision, grafting (human cadever tissue) and implant. Doc is Dr Edward Karpman in Mountain View, surgery at El Camino Hospital, LOS Gatos CA. AMS 700 CX infrapubic 18 cm + 3 cm RTE. http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php


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