5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

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DougAnd
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5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby DougAnd » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:16 am

Got a question for you guys, especially LGXers. I start cycling in less than 2 weeks. I remember some guys had real problems with their pumps. The tubes of mine are buried in the base of my penis, will not budge. It will be impossible for me to squeeze the bulb without squeezing the bar and button and locking it up.

Here is the question. Some guys had posted that they could get about 5 or 6 squeezes with good growth and then the bulb would deflate and nothing more. Since the LGX is supposed to grow up to 25% you have to get more than 5 or 6. My understanding is that the bulb becomes too hard to squeeze and that's it, right? Larry you've by far had the most experience with all kinds of problems. Would really like everyone's input and yours too. Why would the bulb just keep squeezing and no fluid go into the cylinders? I will probably have my pump moved and tubes extended. I just want to take care of everything at once, have already made an appt with a new surgeon to fix my many problems.
Thanks
LGX 18cm+3cmRTE 8 / 8/18 by Docs Saracino , Prody of FL Disfigured by Implant. Married 31 years, Functionally impotent 2+ years. 4" day of surgery now 7" inflated after VED 6.5" without. Pump moved 12/4/18 by Dr Kata

DNQ231
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Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby DNQ231 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:38 pm

I’ve read that a pressure release valve with the AMS LGX (pretty sure it was this model but not certain) means that you can squeeze the bulb indefinitely.

As for the inability to inflate the cylinders, I can’t offer any useful insights, sadly. Be sure to get it checked.
Born in 1996. Coloplast Titan Touch implanted July 2018.

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Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby postra7777 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:46 pm

DougAnd wrote: The tubes of mine are buried in the base of my penis, will not budge. It will be impossible for me to squeeze the bulb without squeezing the bar and button and locking it up.



I'm confused the button should be above the bulb [*] <---- attempt to illustrate it. My tubes come in at the top of the "button box" and the squeeze bulb is below that. My pump also sits
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sits up high but can still get to the bulb. At first you will find it hard to squeeze more than 5 times but with time things will loosen up and it will get easier. Also I was instructed to pull on the pump to make it drop lower. That seemed to work.
Suffered with ED for most of my life. Viagra then to Trimix then implanted 3/8/2018 with AMX 700 CX 21cm with 1cm RTE. 50 years old Urolift procedure performed 30 day prior to my implant surgery.

Larry10625

Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby Larry10625 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:53 pm

DougAnd wrote:Got a question for you guys, especially LGXers. I start cycling in less than 2 weeks. I remember some guys had real problems with their pumps. The tubes of mine are buried in the base of my penis, will not budge. It will be impossible for me to squeeze the bulb without squeezing the bar and button and locking it up.

Here is the question. Some guys had posted that they could get about 5 or 6 squeezes with good growth and then the bulb would deflate and nothing more. Since the LGX is supposed to grow up to 25% you have to get more than 5 or 6. My understanding is that the bulb becomes too hard to squeeze and that's it, right? Larry you've by far had the most experience with all kinds of problems. Would really like everyone's input and yours too. Why would the bulb just keep squeezing and no fluid go into the cylinders? I will probably have my pump moved and tubes extended. I just want to take care of everything at once, have already made an appt with a new surgeon to fix my many problems.
Thanks



One feature of the AMS pump is that once the cylinders get full you can squeeze 100 more pumps, nothing will happen. I have had it where I could not squeeze it at all and then 10 minutes later pump 10 more times but it doesn't seem to get any harder. :)

Larry

DougAnd
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Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby DougAnd » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:46 pm

Larry that's what I thought, so how can you grow if it won't keep going?
LGX 18cm+3cmRTE 8 / 8/18 by Docs Saracino , Prody of FL Disfigured by Implant. Married 31 years, Functionally impotent 2+ years. 4" day of surgery now 7" inflated after VED 6.5" without. Pump moved 12/4/18 by Dr Kata

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Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby oldbeek » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:46 pm

Mine has no relief valve. I full pump 15. Then I let it rest, bend the dick side to side and up and down. Then I can get 10 more full pumps. bend and rotate it again. Then I can squeeze very hard and get about 5 more partial pumps. By then it is rock hard and painful. I hold that pressure as long as I can stand the pain.
I called the Boston scientific rep and left a message, asking do these pumps have a relief valve so you can pump forever. Hope to have an answer tomorrow. I will post my findings in a new post.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby ED2013 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:15 pm

oldbeek wrote:Mine has no relief valve. I full pump 15. Then I let it rest, bend the dick side to side and up and down. Then I can get 10 more full pumps. bend and rotate it again. Then I can squeeze very hard and get about 5 more partial pumps. By then it is rock hard and painful. I hold that pressure as long as I can stand the pain.
I called the Boston scientific rep and left a message, asking do these pumps have a relief valve so you can pump forever. Hope to have an answer tomorrow. I will post my findings in a new post.


I have never experienced pumping forever either. Eventually while inflated to the max my pump stays hard and cannot be pumped anymore.

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Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby newbie443 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:06 am

I have had a lot of problems with mine. Way to many to go into now. Mine is difficult to squeeze the bulb but it does work. My tubes are long so I can get above the block to hold them. Depending on how much I deflated I can get between 5 and 10 pumps in before the bulb is rock hard and will not pump. After I wait a few minutes I can pump slight pumps in or force more in. In my AMS dvd it gave several ways to pump and one was using 2 hands on the bulb. I even cradled the bottom of the bulb between the 1st and 2nd joints of my index finger and place the thumb on the top to hold it in place.

As I understand you are saying the pump is so high you cannot get above the pump to hold the lines.

Here is a link I found on this. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=932

There was a link post on a thread not sure if it was one of mine or not that had the AMS 700 DVD on it so you could click on the link. I received the DVD in my AMS packet I received from my surgeon.

I found the link you will need to sign in to see it but this shows many ways to pump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JMc2qW ... e=youtu.be
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

Larry10625

Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby Larry10625 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:36 am

DougAnd wrote:Larry that's what I thought, so how can you grow if it won't keep going?



By the time the pressure release valve lets go you will already be more than 100%. After you pump to what you think is 100%, give it 5 or 10 minutes and then try to pump some more. I am going to ask Dr. Brock to make sure I get it right. :)

Larry

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Re: 5 pumps 20 pumps won't get harder

Postby DougAnd » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:48 am

Thanks guys this is all really confusing to me. I have keloid disease. Somehow my warning dropped off of the radar. I had no idea that since they will no longer shave because of micro cuts that they would still do infection inviting stitches! I have a 3 1/2 in scar across my penis base. And it looks like keloids are already forming. Since day 3 I have been trying to pull down my pump. It is literally attached to the left side of my penis and feels like an extension of it. The tubes are wrapped around the left side. I am left handed no way to use my left hand to ump and I have no strength in my right.
After my staples were removed at 2 weeks I began VED therapy. Very painful. The scar is sucked inside of the tube. And the base rests on the pump. So far this extreme pressure against the pump bar has moved it down perhaps 1/8th inch. Still not enough to grab the tubes without squeezing the bar. May pump is permanently cocked side ways so that the button is on the side not the top.
I was bent to the left 90 degrees until I had used the VED for about a week. Then it went to 45 degrees. Now fully deflated I am at 25 degrees and can finally hit the toilet in the dark.
I have started cycling early had a stellar recovery no reason to use a poor recovery timeline. I am convinced that the problem is with kinked lines. And inflation causes them to become kinked. That may get better. Woke up at 3AM a few nights ago and could not sleep so cycled. It got harder than ever before.Got up and measured 6+ inches. So the guys made their mark. I only lost an inch which I did not want any way. My wife and I have been perfectly happy with the 6+ that I've had for the past 30 years. Last night I tried what Larry had suggested. Pump and wait. It worked. Got 6 again. Usually it kinks at 5 3/4. Sometimes at 5 1/2. But it never gets hard and I always have some to spare can stretch out my penis more. At 6 it is much harder. At 5 3/4 I can still bend it easily.
I have tried the pull the pumped penis four directions. May or may not have helped. At this point I'm thinking that unless I go to Kramer and have a total redo I'm pretty much stuck with what these guys have given me and easily kinked lines. Not really too excited to do this again.
LGX 18cm+3cmRTE 8 / 8/18 by Docs Saracino , Prody of FL Disfigured by Implant. Married 31 years, Functionally impotent 2+ years. 4" day of surgery now 7" inflated after VED 6.5" without. Pump moved 12/4/18 by Dr Kata


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