Minimum reservoir size for the Titan 22 CM

[MyImplant]

I enjoy this conversation.

Do you have any prior experience with penile enlargement? You probably do, but if you do not there may be facts and theories you are not familiar with. I am gong to get very basic and I do not mean to talk down to you. Cut me some slack. I mean well.

Penis size depends on many factors, but the one most significant is the length of the tunica. Soft tissue outside the tunica can enlarge but it is usually temporary. A good exaample of that would be what I think you are pointing out. Using a VED to make your glans bigger may have no permanent effects. It is possible that the soft tissue does expand and hold some of he growth. a good example is building up your biceps. This is not a ligament like the tunica. The idea in muscle development is to tear down soft tissue or muscles and let it rebuild with more size and strength. It is possible that there might be some of this occurring in glans development but I am not betting on it as a silgnifcant factor if any factor.

What I believe to be true is that if you can lengthen the tunica you can lengthen your overall penis. Conversely if you shorten your tunica you can bet your overall penis is shorter. Simply stated, your glans goes when your tunica goes. So if for some reason your tunica is shortened while it is implanted it will being the glans down with the shortened tunica. Since the implant is not changing in size (forget the expansion factor for this part) this means that the glans may be eroded by the "immovable" object.. the tip of the implant. The reverse is also true. If for any reason the tunica is lengthened it follows therefor that the penis is lengthened and the glans moved outward avoiding the erosion. Thus the key to erosion is the length of the tunica relative to the length of the implant.

Not with the same certainty but very probable you can say that if you lengthen your dick you have probably lengthened your tunica. Not always true because as you point out as I have that temporary engorgement resulting from usage of a VED appearing to be longer is only for that moment. But if you lengthen your tunica you have a permanent growth. Remember your glans and other soft tissue "goes with" the tunica.

So in simple terms what do I have to do to lengthen my tunica.. not engorge my glans etc.

Just how could the negative pressure of a VED lengthen my tunica. Given it fills the penis with blood. Hurray.. but my tunica?

I could spout off with opinions but truly I have no fucking clue. Possibly the tunica responds just like soft tissue in that there is a breaking down of structure which when it rebuilds it is bigger, stronger.

BUT I DO KNOW SOMETHING WHICH IS NOT THEORY, OPINION.. MY TUNICA IN MY DICK IS 4CM LONGER THAT IT WAS IN 2009 WHEN I GOT MY FIRST IMPLANT. IT FOLLOWS THAT SOMETHING CAUSED MY TUNICA TO GROW AND IS WAS CERTAINLY NOT JUST THE EXPANDABILITY OF THE LGX! IN MY MIND, FOR REASONS I HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED IT WAS THE USAGE OF THE VED.

So go figure. Remember how tough the tunica is. What could cause it to lengthen? Something did.

ANOTHER POINT.. WHY DIDN'T I GET EROSION? Answer .. my tunica lengthened and the glans attach to the tunica moved away avoiding erosion.

i would love to know if I a wrong. Go for it and if you are able to point this out we are all better for it.

clean up notes.. I did not use the VED 24 hours at a time. In fact it was more like less than 30 minutes at a time. If leave it on you can cut off blood flow.. ischemia. What I tried to convey is that I used the VED daily.. often many times in a given day. I fuck or masturbate every day.. often more. I always used my VED because I always wanted the maximum dick. All of this is for a different story at another time. Multiple orgasms and edging is a clue to my excessive behavior. Man does it feel good to be obsessive. I am having a ball as I get very fucking old. i only have a few years left.. I am 81.. and i intend to die fucking. Thank you God. Ik am not Muslim but what about those 28 virgins? I prefer more experienced women. Does this mean I bring my dick with me to heaven? If so we need to get this VED issue straight. There may be no VEDs in heaven. Just fhaving fun. Don't get bent out of shape here. Just a "tehe" moment.

[Hawkman]

I fully understand penile structures and the theories behind increasing penile size or restoring size from fibrosis, trauma, and plaque. I am Familiar with the very limited studies offering any evidence on the topic and have participated in thousands of conversations with those using these various methods. I have used VEDs and Traction for over a decade.

My only interest was to make it clear that there is sound theory and professional warnings that suggest leaving a penile prosthesis inflated for extended periods of time can have negative effects.

I find anecdotal accounts and expert advice to do this thing or that thing interesting. I do not find them to be a good topic for debate without supporting evidence. Especially when recovering from implant surgery

[alibaba]

I fully understand penile structures and the theories behind increasing penile size or restoring size from fibrosis, trauma, and plaque. I am Familiar with the very limited studies offering any evidence on the topic and have participated in thousands of conversations with those using these various methods. I have used VEDs and Traction for over a decade.

My only interest was to make it clear that there is sound theory and professional warnings that suggest leaving a penile prosthesis inflated for extended periods of time can have negative effects.

I find anecdotal accounts and expert advice to do this thing or that thing interesting. I do not find them to be a good topic for debate without supporting evidence. Especially when recovering from implant surgery

Agreed. More later.

[MyImplant]

I understand that we want to move on to other subjects. I agree also.

But what if i am wrong? I really want somebody explain how I got this additional length if not by the VED. This is really important to most others.

So I ask.. other than that provided by the LGX that could explain at least 2 CM growth. If not the VED what else? After your answer I will call it quits. As a convenience to those just reading, my tunica grew 4 CM between implants. At max the LGX could contribute 2CM. So how did those other CM come to be? All current implanted and tbose thinking about an implant should be vitally interested in this.

[alibaba]

Implant, it is great you stretched your dick. Leaving an implant inflated to the point of tension IS high risk. Any tissue that has pressure applied has reduced blood supply. Reduced blood supply kills or weakens it and clearly thins it. Killed tissue is subject to erosion. The main reason for the undersizing implants goes back to the rigid rod days where a rod the size of the cavernosal body always left the body under tension and eroded. Erosions are rare now with deflate able implants simply because the tissue is no-longer under tension. The high risk of internal tension cutting off blood supply and oxygen is not worth it. One of the reasons leaving an implant inflated becomes painful after a while is because of the reduced blood flow. Put a cock ring on your dick or balls, rubber band on your finger. The longer the blood flow is cut off the more painful it gets. Keeping an implant inflated to max full time is creating an artificial "compartment syndrome". That is a medical term. Look it up. People lose arms and legs from compartment syndrome which is caused by a build up of tension from the inside for a number of differing causes. A T=tape attached to a weight is a different matter because it is less likely to cut off blood supply and certainly causes no internal pressure. Everyone tends to try different things but is is not good to promote something that is likely and in fact proven to be harmful in an average class of people. It is very likely part of your stretch is just from the weight of the fluid filled cylinders. All cylinders regardless of brand have a woven layer of fabric to limit expansion; otherwise you could inflate them till they pop. It is also very likely you had some loss that was recovered after your implant. If you had no issue prior, why would have had an implant? Although things can slew off to the bizarre sometimes, it behooves everyone here to only promote the safest of processes. BME or some site such as that is better suited for dick mutilation plans. Look up compartment syndrome. I tend to believe that is one cause of some men's implant infections when no infectious cause can be found, as rare as they are now. Every body does not react the same way. Sorry for again writing a book. Cheers.

[alibaba]

Increasing the length of you penis is not just tunica dependent. Keep in mind the ligament that attaches your dick to the pubic bone runs the entire length of your penis all the way to the glans between the two cavernosal bodies on the dorsal (top) side. That is certainly one tough piece of tissue that also has to be stretched. As with most of the body, the penis, though not a very large biological machine, is complicated. Think of it as the gristle in a tough piece of meat.

[MyImplant]

The points you two guys made are valid. When ever you cut off oxygen supply bad things can happen. To validate your point more, one of my doctors residents said I was lucky I had no damage based on the story I told.

Now there is no question that I left myself fully inflated for weeks at a time. Apparently there was no damage from oxygen deprivation. How can this be reconciled? Maybe.. just maybe.. that there was no shoving of the cylinders against the tunica limits. I assume we are talking about damage to the tunica? The glans will move outward if the soft tissue and the tunica allows such. So if my "permanent" inflation did not cause damage to the tunica it might be that I was not fully inflate and thought I was or the tunica was expanding such that the inflation did not cut off oxygen. Maybe, just maybe.. the VED and manual stretching caused the tunica lengtening.

I believe you two have studied this area. I also have read some about this. But I know my limitations. I am not a scientist or doctor.

But what I can not get out of my mind is that I actually got a 4 CM growth as a result of something. If I can translate this to a 4 CM lengthening of my penis. this is over 1 1/2 inch growth. With rare exception every man will kill for this. I did it and i was lucky. I am not saying I am right. But wouldn't all of want to know what happened?

To show you how stupid I am I will probably do the same thing again. Who knows I might live long enough for a 3rd implant (although guys my age are dropping around me).

I do have to add.. if a man wants to work on this penis length the LGX is the implant to chose. Their maximum length is 21 CM and with expansion factor ths could produce one long dick. If on the other hand you think that the VED or other PE works then maybe the Titan. I wanted the immediate benefit of larger girth and harder erection and a maybe a pump improvement (athough this is in doubt for now).

[warrenw]

....It is very possible you received the entire Coloplast implant with reservoir and the old reservoir is still there too. That saved you from having a second incision through the abdomen and muscle to cut it out. You may be good man. Don't stress yet.

MyImplant, did you ever find out about the reservoir situation from your doctor? Just curious if they reused the old one or gave you all new Coloplast equipment.

[MyImplant]

Have not met with my doctor yet. BUT I got the op notes ź and it confirms he did not install the coloplast reservoir. Used the existing LGX reservoir. Notes say that the old reservoir still had the original 100 ML capacity. Said no encapsulation of the old reservoir. Then the notes go on to say that he "instlled" 120 ML ..not sure what this means.

I called Coloplast that was initially unhelpful obviously not wanting to upset my doctor. I persisted and got a supervisor who said he figured out just how much fluid is needed to inflate a 22CM cylinder. His answer was 96 ML for both. Yet my calcs indicate about 130 ML of at 20psi is necessary to get to the 22MM diameter.

Then he asked how much did u subtract for the thickness of the walls of the cylinder. WTF! To make a long story short he say that all I need id the 096 ML. Bottom line is I need to subtract about 27%. I just left that part dangling.

Moving on I think this may be what had happened and I will confirm this if my doctor just does not edit for good next visit. I think he filed up the reservoir AND he added 20 ML to the 2 condoms to keep me physically inflated. I could not screw this up

If my theory is correct I am probably OK for max inflation. But I had to work at this.

There is a school of thought to avoid taking out the old reservoir. Rather install new on the other side. But even this should be avoided if possible by refusing the original reservoir. My doctor r authored articles on this. So I think he knows the issues. But did he take the quick way out? Will try to get more.

Bottom line. If what I had works then I will simply drop the subject. I think my doctor deserves the benefit of doubt.

[warrenw]

I called Coloplast that was initially unhelpful obviously not wanting to upset my doctor. I persisted and got a supervisor who said he figured out just how much fluid is needed to inflate a 22CM cylinder. His answer was 96 ML for both. Yet my calcs indicate about 130 ML of at 20psi is necessary to get to the 22MM diameter.

When I first did the calculations I forgot to subtract out the part of the cylinder that doesn't inflate. For a 22cm cylinder probably 25% of that length isn't inflatable, maybe that's why your calculation was off by 27%.

Really a puzzling topic for everbody, reservoir capacity vs cylinder size. Maybe your doctor will have some answers.