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If Larry or the other moderators agree I'd like to start a thread to identify exactly which Doctors have shrunk you and which have not.
Rules are simple. Before surgery you must have either measured tightly from your pubic bone a hard full erection, a well pulled flaccid stretch or an accurately measured VED. That can be done with a simple mark on the tube measured after deflation.
Then compare that to either your best full pump after say 6 months or if you have the surgeons notes measure from your scrotal scar to the tip and subtract a quarter inch.
To be fair if your Doc has come within a 1/4 of your original erection count him or her as a preserver. Anything less is a shrinker.
Here is my example:
Doc Anthony Saracino Melbourne Fl Shrimker 7.1" VED 5" implant
Doc Prody Borborglu Melbourne Fl Shrinker 7.1" VED 5" implant

I have to tell you that each time I see your posts I cringe and wonder what you have come up with now. First, you have barely begun your recovery process so your current post-op size is not likely your final size. Even you in your post seem to acknowledge it takes time to attain the actual post-op size because you mention guys who are six months after their implant surgeries.

Second, you say to measure from the scrotal scar. That is not at all reliable because the incisions in the scrotum are varying lengths and placement. The way to measure a penis is from above, not below.

I know you are upset about your size loss, but you clearly have not given your penis time to recover from the trauma it has just been through. It relaxes in time and you will be able to get in more pumps when that happens.

Greg

DougAnd wrote:If Larry or the other moderators agree I'd like to start a thread to identify exactly which Doctors have shrunk you and which have not.
Rules are simple. Before surgery you must have either measured tightly from your pubic bone a hard full erection, a well pulled flaccid stretch or an accurately measured VED. That can be done with a simple mark on the tube measured after deflation.
Then compare that to either your best full pump after say 6 months or if you have the surgeons notes measure from your scrotal scar to the tip and subtract a quarter inch.
To be fair if your Doc has come within a 1/4 of your original erection count him or her as a preserver. Anything less is a shrinker.
Here is my example:
Doc Anthony Saracino Melbourne Fl Shrimker 7.1" VED 5" implant
Doc Prody Borborglu Melbourne Fl Shrinker 7.1" VED 5" implant

Doug... first of all, I am the only moderator, but, like most people, I too have a boss and I know what he would say. This sight is for the support of men with sexual issues, especially ED. We cannot, and will not create a discussion board to bash doctors, it creates a huge liability, one we are not willing to take. Even the best doctors have an outcome they wish they could undo but, that doesn't make them a horrible doctor. I will pass your request up the chain of command but, like I say, I am 99% sure I know the answer.

Larry
Moderator

Dr Sarat Sabharwal Kissimmee Fl Shrinker 7.1" VED bragged 4.5" or less
Dr Stuart Lieberman Melbourne Fl Shrinker 6.5" flaccid stretch said would shrink about 1"

This is Idiotic......WHO CARES. For those of us who are glad, we are able to easily have an erection now, that's all that matters. You are just a few days post op, and continue to gripe, complain and bring up controversy. What length, plus or minus a few CM's..who the hell cares.

I have had problem for years now getting or maintaining an erection..NOW with my implant I can do so whenever I choose. Do I care if I am hung like a horse....HELL NO. All that matters is, it works.

So go complain elsewhere.

flyweed wrote:This is Idiotic......WHO CARES. For those of us who are glad, we are able to easily have an erection now, that's all that matters. You are just a few days post op, and continue to gripe, complain and bring up controversy. What length, plus or minus a few CM's..who the hell cares.

I have had problem for years now getting or maintaining an erection..NOW with my implant I can do so whenever I choose. Do I care if I am hung like a horse....HELL NO. All that matters is, it works.

So go complain elsewhere.

Of course, length matters, it matters to almost all men here. Your comment.. it is a bit idiotic

There would be some merit in your thread if;
1. You did not use scrotal incision as a reference ( some are horizontal, some vertical, some infra pubic) scrotal incision is irrelevant to measurement.
2. Responders were at minimum 9 months post surgery
3. Measurement still inside of a VED under vacuum we’re not used - it artificially engorges the glans and is even larger than the usable penis with a VED constriction band once the VED is removed.
4. Girth also be included since it is at least as relavant as length.

Larry10625 wrote:

DougAnd wrote:If Larry or the other moderators agree I'd like to start a thread to identify exactly which Doctors have shrunk you and which have not.
Rules are simple. Before surgery you must have either measured tightly from your pubic bone a hard full erection, a well pulled flaccid stretch or an accurately measured VED. That can be done with a simple mark on the tube measured after deflation.
Then compare that to either your best full pump after say 6 months or if you have the surgeons notes measure from your scrotal scar to the tip and subtract a quarter inch.
To be fair if your Doc has come within a 1/4 of your original erection count him or her as a preserver. Anything less is a shrinker.
Here is my example:
Doc Anthony Saracino Melbourne Fl Shrimker 7.1" VED 5" implant
Doc Prody Borborglu Melbourne Fl Shrinker 7.1" VED 5" implant

Doug... first of all, I am the only moderator, but, like most people, I too have a boss and I know what he would say. This sight is for the support of men with sexual issues, especially ED. We cannot, and will not create a discussion board to bash doctors, it creates a huge liability, one we are not willing to take. Even the best doctors have an outcome they wish they could undo but, that doesn't make them a horrible doctor. I will pass your request up the chain of command but, like I say, I am 99% sure I know the answer.

Larry
Moderator

Larry,
Perhaps it would be best if this post got deleted before it goes further.

Greg