Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby tooyoung » Fri Sep 19, 2025 10:52 am

LastHope wrote:If I snagged a good insurance or a Powerball jackpot tomorrow :lol: , I'd only go for the gold-standard IPP until 3 infections knocks me out. That way I can die with my proud MPP (or totally fibrosed corpora) and satisfaction thinking, I tried my 100% best to fight this ED.


Hahahahahahahaha plz make more memes :lol:

Sometimes 1 infection is sufficient for that triumph though :lol:

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby LastHope » Fri Sep 19, 2025 10:58 am

tooyoung wrote:
LastHope wrote:If I snagged a good insurance or a Powerball jackpot tomorrow :lol: , I'd only go for the gold-standard IPP until 3 infections knocks me out. That way I can die with my proud MPP (or totally fibrosed corpora) and satisfaction thinking, I tried my 100% best to fight this ED.


Hahahahahahahaha plz make more memes :lol:

Sometimes 1 infection is sufficient for that triumph though :lol:


That's true, TooYoung!
Thanks! :lol:

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby tooyoung » Fri Sep 19, 2025 11:38 am

Wooody wrote:
LetoMan wrote:
tooyoung wrote:plz elaborate.


Well, you presumably already know (or maybe if the explanation is you are actually schizophrenic, you don’t), but for the benefit of others that are not following everything closely here, Dj_soros is one of your alt accounts.
Be well (particularly you),
Leto


He does this on Reddit too. Uses the same FY screenshots with same annotations and highlights, same studies, same comments etc.. using multiple accounts


Why you and the letos out there have the right to use the same stupid deadly implant companies narrative..and I don't have the the right to use the same sources I gathered proving ipp reliability is shit ? I use other sources too revealing mpp drawbacks not talked about alot.

But yeah why would you bother working out your brains and refute or discuss these sources...throwing empty accusations is easier and better fit your persona.

As for reddit yes I used 2 accounts because the first got banned from a different sub due to ED unrelated reason.
But here I don't...you can ask the admin

It's entertaining that you don't face arguments and face the person...it doesn't matter if tooyoung is a troll or pumpless_mtfckr is AI...the argument is what matters...and this is the only thing that should be discussed otherwise it's a cheap escape.

Waaait a minute :o you and letos are the same guy :o :o ...does that give me the right to cheaply and disgustingly escape your arguments ?

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby Wooody » Fri Sep 19, 2025 11:52 am

tooyoung wrote:
Wooody wrote:
LetoMan wrote:
Well, you presumably already know (or maybe if the explanation is you are actually schizophrenic, you don’t), but for the benefit of others that are not following everything closely here, Dj_soros is one of your alt accounts.
Be well (particularly you),
Leto


He does this on Reddit too. Uses the same FY screenshots with same annotations and highlights, same studies, same comments etc.. using multiple accounts


Why you and the letos out there have the right to use the same stupid deadly implant companies narrative..and I don't have the the right to use the same sources I gathered proving ipp reliability is shit ? I use other sources too revealing mpp drawbacks not talked about alot.

But yeah why would you bother working out your brains and refute or discuss these sources...throwing empty accusations is easier and better fit your persona.

As for reddit yes I used 2 accounts because the first got banned from a different sub due to ED unrelated reason.
But here I don't...you can ask the admin

It's entertaining that you don't face arguments and face the person...it doesn't matter if tooyoung is a troll or pumpless_mtfckr is AI...the argument is what matters...and this is the only thing that should be discussed otherwise it's a cheap escape.

Waaait a minute :o you and letos are the same guy :o :o ...does that give me the right to cheaply and disgustingly escape your arguments ?


I have never escaped your argument so not sure what you're talking about. In fact I have directly addressed it in discussing Coloplast tube weakness and their effort to improve it. I have commented several times about wanting more reliability.

I think what I and others don't like is your approach. You insult members here regularly and are frankly, annoying with your non-stop IPP bashing. I will say that _some_ of your more recent posts have been more helpful and informative but then you go back to being your old self. You're not very likable, except to the MPP crowd.
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby dj_soros » Fri Sep 19, 2025 12:41 pm

LetoMan wrote:
tooyoung wrote:plz elaborate.


Well, you presumably already know (or maybe if the explanation is you are actually schizophrenic, you don’t), but for the benefit of others that are not following everything closely here, Dj_soros is one of your alt accounts. Like many of your other alt accounts, it was created in spring 2025, but only suddenly started posting here last week, not bothering with what most guys usually do here, which is an intro post or something similar about themselves before launching into your great anti-IPP crusade. Instead this alt just jumped straight into saying the exact things you say… as you yourself said, they could have come straight from your own mind.

I like figuring weird mysteries out, and as I pointed out in prior posts exposing you, figuring out that you are using multiple alt accounts was not that hard. But what is hard is figuring out your motives. With some of your other alt accounts like the pumpless foghorn leghorn guy and the neisser-whatever guy, you bother to try to disguise your writing by using ChatGPT or similar. But with this alt you are going in a different direction… this alt also claims to be 27, just like you claim to be, he really only interacts with you, he basically says the same things you say in a similar voice to you, and you are basically daring us to make the connection by joking that his views could be from your own mind.

So the mystery that I haven’t figured out about you is: Why? What is the purpose behind the alts and the different ways you use them? That I can’t figure out.

Someone in some movie once said that there isn’t always some motive behind why some men do things, some men just like to see the world burn. And I have to remind myself that that is the case with most internet trolls… they just do it for the lolz. Sowing division and causing confusion is their point. Why? Who knows.

But at the same time that I can see your efforts as silly and transparent, I can also admire the degree to which you go to use alts to create this super weird image of yourself as leading an army of young men opposed to the malicious ipp industry.

And that’s why I said this was elite level trolling. I mean, you are so deep into it that you probably think you crafted a strategy to “throw everyone off the scent” by, for example, having one alt account with an AI generated corn poke southern accent while also having another alt account that you are openly admitting is probably you. I mean, that’s a whole ‘nother level! I mean… are you actively trying to think up strategies to confuse the issue of whether you are using alts? That’s crazy! That’s a serious amount of effort to put in just so you can troll a little message board of guys whose dicks don’t work.

I suspect the way you thought this might play out is you could say something like “how is it that I am using alts that I deliberately hide their voice to make it seem like it’s not me, but then I am also using alts that are almost exactly like me?” And then you call me simple and illogical again.

But then who knows? Like I said, maybe you are not a troll and are just schizo and don’t realize you are just talking to yourself.

Be well (particularly you),
Leto


Goodness gracious…

I’ve responded to nearly everyone who has replied to me. neisseriaceae and JohnnyBorg made their posts around the time of my surgery, so I wanted to add my two cents since they're in the same age group as me.

So according to you, tooyoung has six alts: me, my three duplicate accounts, neisseriaceae, and thr pumpkin guy (who I actually think might be tooyoung as well).

Why do I need an intro post? There isn’t much to say. Days ago I was implanted and am now recovering. I plan on making a more detailed post once I’ve actually had a chance to bend and use it. Otherwise what is there to report? My original plan was to provide a detailed journal, answer any questions, then dip. I don’t usually post publicly on forums and tend to prefer one on one correspondence or just browsing.

You can ask user easymoney. I had been privately messaging him before I ever commented publicly. I mainly browse Reddit, you probably can find my similar comment there.

I only found this site because it was mentioned in passing on Reddit. I initially found the interface somewhat confusing. As I already told you, I created multiple accounts. The reason I even went through the trouble of creating an account was to view people’s older posts, which I later learned can be done through the advanced search.

What did I ever say that was anti IPP? If anything my comments are anti US health insurance. The IPP was and still is my first choice. I just don’t feel secure with the US healthcare system. Did you not see my older comment breaking down how US health coverage works? I don’t have disposable income to cover an early malfunction or infection if I happened to be uninsured, lost a job, or started a new job that didn’t cover it at the time. No one here or on Reddit has ever offered a real response or solution to this main concern Because of that I’m SETTLING with a malleable. I’m even on a payment plan to pay nearly ten grand for my malleable WITH insurance. Most of us Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

I think the IPP is a no brainer choice for those around fifty and older. Soon even younger as Coloplast continues improving the tubing and overall reliability.

I admit that I find tooyoung’s crusade entertaining since he spices things up. I'm also skeptical that IPPs usually last twenty plus years, particularly for younger males, but I disagree with him that the average lifespan is as low as 5-7 years. I think the average is closer to 10.


This will probably fall on deaf ears anyway. neisseriaceae provided pictures and links to his old account dating back to 2013, and you still think he’s an alt..
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby tooyoung » Fri Sep 19, 2025 1:02 pm

Wooody wrote:
tooyoung wrote:
Wooody wrote:
He does this on Reddit too. Uses the same FY screenshots with same annotations and highlights, same studies, same comments etc.. using multiple accounts


Why you and the letos out there have the right to use the same stupid deadly implant companies narrative..and I don't have the the right to use the same sources I gathered proving ipp reliability is shit ? I use other sources too revealing mpp drawbacks not talked about alot.

But yeah why would you bother working out your brains and refute or discuss these sources...throwing empty accusations is easier and better fit your persona.

As for reddit yes I used 2 accounts because the first got banned from a different sub due to ED unrelated reason.
But here I don't...you can ask the admin

It's entertaining that you don't face arguments and face the person...it doesn't matter if tooyoung is a troll or pumpless_mtfckr is AI...the argument is what matters...and this is the only thing that should be discussed otherwise it's a cheap escape.

Waaait a minute :o you and letos are the same guy :o :o ...does that give me the right to cheaply and disgustingly escape your arguments ?


I have never escaped your argument so not sure what you're talking about. In fact I have directly addressed it in discussing Coloplast tube weakness and their effort to improve it. I have commented several times about wanting more reliability.

I think what I and others don't like is your approach. You insult members here regularly and are frankly, annoying with your non-stop IPP bashing. I will say that _some_ of your more recent posts have been more helpful and informative but then you go back to being your old self. You're not very likable, except to the MPP crowd.


What are their efforts to improve tubing leaks ? Infact they downgraded theirs from classic pump tubing (which was a common site for leakage too) to a crappier tubing of the OTR...There are no "efforts" unfortunately.
You sometimes challenge the arguments and most of the times fold to the unnecessary drama....like when you say "non-stop IPP bashing"...why does that bother you ? What's your practical argument here ? Yes I will continue bashing IPPs until they don't trade with our dicks and lives.

"My approach" ? I only call those who call me a troll stupid cheerleaders only in return of their "insults".

I don't care if anyone likes me even the "mpp crowd" ...since there's nothing personal here Woody...nobody knows you in person or Leto or me..a brilliant platform to express and provide a proper feedback to beneficiaries...only the arguments, evidence and reasonings stay...so lets cut the clutter and focus on what matters... not the drama that deters us from real problems...I hope we are on the same page now.

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby tooyoung » Fri Sep 19, 2025 2:03 pm

dj_soros wrote:So according to you, tooyoung has six alts: me, my three duplicate accounts, neisseriaceae, and thr pumpkin guy (who I actually think might be tooyoung as well).


I'm not pumpless_mtfckr...I invited Leto many times to email the admin and verify if this is me. I know you are well intentioned but please don't support empty accusations.

dj_soros wrote:Why do I need an intro post? ...............advanced search.


Don't bother...many on the forum want to hear comforting talk rather than "franktalk" to better sleep at night...so whenever there's a critical appraisal they will bash it with accusations...because if critical appraisal thrives the narrative that makes them sleep better at night will vanish for good...so don't try hard explaining..they understand...and they know they are fog makers...they aren't really that stupid or naive.

dj_soros wrote:No one here or on Reddit has ever offered a real response or solution to this main concern

Yeah only medicared senior gentlemen cheerleading and idealists following their suit.

dj_soros wrote:I admit that I find tooyoung’s crusade entertaining since he spices things up.

I'm glad that you are entertained by the critical appraisal in the valley of morbid cheerleading...but this isn't a crusade neither it's intended for entertainment..it's simply a young guy with refractory ED who has found that penile implant industry is thriving on a lot of lies supported (surprisngly) by carcasses...and trying to figure out the best scenario possible for young sufferers...again I know you are well intentioned but you don't have to stand in the middle and support faulty accusations to prove anything to carcasses cheerleading.

dj_soros wrote:I disagree with him that the average lifespan is as low as 5-7 years. I think the average is closer to 10.

I can provide tons of evidence as usual but it turned out to be a tedious chore..that's why I will sum it with the fact that a 10 year survivng ipp on MAUDE is a unicorn...1 in 20 reports...whose mean age is already 60.

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby LetoMan » Fri Sep 19, 2025 3:38 pm

Wooody wrote:I think what I and others don't like is your approach. You insult members here regularly and are frankly, annoying with your non-stop IPP bashing… You're not very likable, except to the MPP crowd.


Wooody, obviously those things are problematic. But the more serious issue here is that he makes none of the information here reliable. Guys come here looking for advice.

But when you have got a guy that sometimes claims to be a doctor, sometimes claims to have an implant and sometimes doesn’t, and is clearly operating multiple alt accounts, how can you know if any of the advice is anything other than trolling? You can’t, really. You can’t even really know if there *is* an mpp crowd. Certainly some of them are not the troll, Duke Cicero springs to mind, and I don’t think Last Hope or Ready2Go are either, but how can you know?

Unfortunately I don’t think anything can really be done about it. Anyone can create an anonymous account here, you can create them under multiple emails, etc. and it kinda has to be that way. So this guy can just pollute the discourse here forever.

You mentioned this is happening on Reddit, too. I briefly perused the Reddit ED boards about a year ago, and noticed that it was a cesspool full of disinformation trolls. Just absolute tons of them. I started suggesting to real sufferers that they go to FrankTalk instead. But apparently that has all followed us here.

It’s too bad. I get it… trolls are gonna troll. We just seem to have got one six months ago with massive amounts of time on his hands and a real taste for polluting the discourse.
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby JohnnyBorg » Fri Sep 19, 2025 3:50 pm

Hey everybody, apologies for not replying to the comments on my own thread, last two days have been absolutely nuts. A lot to catch up on!
Diagnosed with venous leak after having ED majority of my life. Grateful to have some answers, and considering both MPP and IPP as options.

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby JohnnyBorg » Fri Sep 19, 2025 3:54 pm

happycamper59 wrote:I can't help with the revision question, but I got an IPP a little more than a year ago. It is great! However, I did lose some length (nearly 1/2 inch I think), but it is harder to get a boned-pressed measurement now because the tubing is right there. So, it may be only about a 1/4 inch, which is what my doc suggested at the onset. Girth? Maybe a little loss. But man, does this thing work! I couldn't imagine a malleable, as my deflated penis is still more than it was flacid pre-op. I was a grower then; I'm a shower now!


Hey Happycamper, I’m glad you like your IPP! You said you think you lost 1/2 inch, out of curiosity do you know your pre-measurement?

I think the grower -> shower is actually a really nice bonus that I’d be looking forward to! Flaccid, my dick is VERY underwhelming. Reminds me of George Constanza in that one Seinfeld episode where the woman sees him naked after he had just gotten out of the pool. “DOESN’T SHE KNOW ABOUT SHRINKAGE?” :D
Diagnosed with venous leak after having ED majority of my life. Grateful to have some answers, and considering both MPP and IPP as options.


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