Following up on questioning IPPs reliability

[Courage]

You know, I should've seen it off the bat: our tooyoung is a troll. Well played, sirrah, well played.

[ElbowRoom]

Yeah a pornstar anecdote is invalid but that of a sales rep is

Even sales reps say 30% oh man

Find me one AMS or Coloplast rep that has said "These implants fail at a rate of 30% per year."

I thought you were ignorant or a troll. Now I'm leaning toward mental defective.

[tooyoung]

You know, I should've seen it off the bat: our tooyoung is a troll. Well played, sirrah, well played.

Is sirrah a slur ?

Yeah anyone who comes up with an unpleasant reality is a troll.

You caught me...I work in the ipp reliability troll business..you are a clever sirrah.

[tooyoung]

Yeah a pornstar anecdote is invalid but that of a sales rep is

Even sales reps say 30% oh man

Find me one AMS or Coloplast rep that has said "These implants fail at a rate of 30% per year."

I thought you were ignorant or a troll. Now I'm leaning toward mental defective.

Elbow dear...could you please answer the highlighted part and stop derailing.

And yeah... coloplast number on its' official site for the year 2021 isn't representative enough for you ?

If i called the company or mr.perito and they told me it's 1% should i ditch the declared statistic ?

Anyway again let's not derail...I'm waiting for your answer on the highlighted part in this screenshot.

[tooyoung]

Yeah a pornstar anecdote is invalid but that of a sales rep is

Even sales reps say 30% oh man

Find me one AMS or Coloplast rep that has said "These implants fail at a rate of 30% per year."

I thought you were ignorant or a troll. Now I'm leaning toward mental defective.

Find me one who has the implant for 20 years.

[frank66665]

In my opinion the article simply says that during the year 20 to 30% of the operations are carried out by overhauls, the remaining 70/80% are first installations, it does not refer in any way to breakages or malfunctions in annual percentages

[tooyoung]

In my opinion the article simply says that during the year 20 to 30% of the operations are carried out by overhauls, the remaining 70/80% are first installations, it does not refer in any way to breakages or malfunctions in annual percentages

1 in 3 operations is a revision...isn't that high ?

[frank66665]

In my opinion the article simply says that during the year 20 to 30% of the operations are carried out by overhauls, the remaining 70/80% are first installations, it does not refer in any way to breakages or malfunctions in annual percentages

1 in 3 operations is a revision...isn't that high ?

There is no data on how many operating plants there are in circulation, consequently 20/30% of revisions on the operations of the current year could be too few if we take numbers from 20 years to today, while the revisions refer to the current year

[frank66665]

I hope the systems last 15 years as they say, even if I strongly doubt it.

[tooyoung]

In my opinion the article simply says that during the year 20 to 30% of the operations are carried out by overhauls, the remaining 70/80% are first installations, it does not refer in any way to breakages or malfunctions in annual percentages

1 in 3 operations is a revision...isn't that high ?

There is no data on how many operating plants there are in circulation, consequently 20/30% of revisions on the operations of the current year could be too few if we take numbers from 20 years to today, while the revisions refer to the current year

And the years before don't they have revisions as well ? At least they were 30% annually too...if you take the 20 years total implants in perspective, put the 20 years of revisions too...sorry but it's making me sick how esteemed contributers here including you couldn't put it into perspective.

1 year revisions ÷ 20 years total installations===>that's elbowroom's fog (MATHEMATICALLY WRONG)

20 year revisions ÷ 20 years total installations===> common sense and simple math

And without all that meticulous analysis which untill now stands by my side , 1 in 3 surgeries is a revision ..this is huge...a 5th grader will say it's fucking big...and will not by anyway translate into perito and the rest con claims...it should be 1 in 50 or so...what's wrong with you guys ?