Second Titan Failure happened 2 days ago during hard sex.

[tooyoung]

Hey principles - so sorry you’re dealing with this man. I can absolutely empathize with you thinking of moving to an MPP at this stage - reminds me a lot of The Driver’s story who just got very unlucky with the IPPs, and moved to the MPP and is VERY happy now. If you end up going with an MPP, I hope you keep posting about your experience, both good and bad! Those kinds of perspectives are so important for the forum.

Again, sorry you’re dealing with this man, totally blows. I hope this next revision - regardless of IPP or MPP - serves you well and for a long time.

Sorry but the driver's case isn't rare at all...I can post lots of similar stories...let alone those who aren't active on FT...and multiple failures in a short span isn't a matter of luck..mathematically speaking...especially when it happens alot and not once in a blue moon.

^^^ this is fair, but I meant from the perspective that The Driver had like, 4 IPPs in a row with failures occurring very quick one after another. That to me definitely seems HIGHLY unlucky and way outside of the norm - even with Coloplast’s tubing being a known issue.

No what I meant by "there are alot of similar stories that I can post" are stories of multiple failures within a short span...the driver's story is not HIGHLY unlucky...not at all...maybe we are all unlucky with the beneficiaries con work.

[JohnnyBorg]

Sorry but the driver's case isn't rare at all...I can post lots of similar stories...let alone those who aren't active on FT...and multiple failures in a short span isn't a matter of luck..mathematically speaking...especially when it happens alot and not once in a blue moon.

^^^ this is fair, but I meant from the perspective that The Driver had like, 4 IPPs in a row with failures occurring very quick one after another. That to me definitely seems HIGHLY unlucky and way outside of the norm - even with Coloplast’s tubing being a known issue.

No what I meant by "there are alot of similar stories that I can post" are stories of multiple failures within a short span...the driver's story is not HIGHLY unlucky...not at all...maybe we are all unlucky with the beneficiaries con work.

That’s interesting tooyoung, I always viewed The Driver’s case as more of an outlier. In some of these other cases you’re describing: did they also make the switch to an MPP after multiple failures? If they did, I also wonder if they had an easier time adjusting to the MPP because of potential formation of the capsule thanks to previous IPP surgery.

[Thisworld]

No what I meant by "there are alot of similar stories that I can post" are stories of multiple failures within a short span...the driver's story is not HIGHLY unlucky...not at all...maybe we are all unlucky with the beneficiaries con work.

That’s interesting tooyoung, I always viewed The Driver’s case as more of an outlier. In some of these other cases you’re describing: did they also make the switch to an MPP after multiple failures? If they did, I also wonder if they had an easier time adjusting to the MPP because of potential formation of the capsule thanks to previous IPP surgery.

I also found that the capsule story that the driver's doc told him is interesting. Make me think, if someone knows that eventually he'll end up with a mpp, it does make sense to start with an ipp earlier ?

[tooyoung]

No what I meant by "there are alot of similar stories that I can post" are stories of multiple failures within a short span...the driver's story is not HIGHLY unlucky...not at all...maybe we are all unlucky with the beneficiaries con work.

That’s interesting tooyoung, I always viewed The Driver’s case as more of an outlier. In some of these other cases you’re describing: did they also make the switch to an MPP after multiple failures? If they did, I also wonder if they had an easier time adjusting to the MPP because of potential formation of the capsule thanks to previous IPP surgery.

Not a significant outlier.....might not be common, but certainly not uncommon.
Yeah, many of them have had enough and switched to MPP.

Theoretically, IPP forms a larger surgical capsule, but there are three caveats to this notion:

1. Infection is more common with IPPs, both logically and according to Köhler’s study (he enumerated the reasons). If infection occurs, it leads to scar tissue formation within the corporal volume—counterproductive to the goal of space preservation.

2. If routine cycling isn’t performed optimally, the tunica will contract to the space that hasn’t been regularly expanded. This undermines the intended expansion effect.

3. How significant is size maintenance of ipp vs mpps when revisions are factored in , really, for all that effort? Especially when we're talking about average-sized dicks?

What do you mean exactly by easier adjusting to mpps post ipps?

[principles]

Hello bud , i have a tactra and i cant recall any buckling . i see you had 13mm rods as well . is the length causing the buckling ? What was the over length of your tactra .? [oh never mind its in your signature -23 , so if you dont mind , what is your penis erection length ? . that might be the issue with the buckling} mine is 21 cm and a little over 6 inches in length .
the only thing i haven't tried is anal [ and i aim not interested, i have done that before back in the day , with 2 different girls and its not my thing ]
but just the other night i had a fwb come over, and her favorite thing is to ride me cowgirl, and she likes to go at it good , she came twice so no complaints from here on stiffness .
When she grabbed it to sit on it, she wasn't all that wet on the outside ,so it went in with some friction , but it stayed straight . And i like doggie , no problems with that either.
ill say my natural erection was better when it was in good working order, but you know, that got to be a project.
so what was it that did cause buckling ?
When you had the tactra implanted ,did you maintain the same girth you had with the ipp inflated and get engorgement when in the mood ? less girth , less stiffness ?
too bad tactra doesn't make 14 and 15 mm rods as well . 13mm is not a universal fit .
for concealment , you already have experienced with that aspect , but for me when i wear cargo shorts ,its not at all noticeable . they are probably looser fitting than slacks though

I just reread my own thread from when I had the Tactra trying to better recall my perception back then. For reference:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22405

I believe (and hope) that the buckling I experienced was related to how my tissues were post-infection. I didn't have alot of rigidity (not necessarely in the shaft) but at the base (proximal part), and some angles made this lack of axial rigidity very prominent.

Girth wise, with natural tumescence enhanced/preserved by a cockring, I don't recall losing much girth with the Tactra. I don't have measurements from back then, but length was definitely hit, as I went from 25cm with my first implant, to 26cm from the revision, back to 23cm post-infection, and that was fine. The most important for me is/was the rigidity and performance of the implant.

[principles]

Was the surgeon the same? Could his technique in installation be faulty? I’m just trying to find a common denominator to the failures other than the obvious — the Titan itself.

The surgeons were not the same, so we can safely eliminate them as potential points of failure. Both were the highest volume IPP surgeons in my country, and both were/are very good. As far as I can tell, I cannot fault them at all.

[principles]

That moment when it go's, you know, what a fucked feeling,,, and yeah it's your tubing that let loose somewhere, 2 years is pretty good, thats the longest my IPP went, and yeah its probably the rough sessions that made it blow, but what the fuck ???? do they get there supply of IPP's thru the DOLLAR STORE ?
I wouldn't go with another IPP if my life depended on it,, which one of those surgeries could have taken out anyone of us at anytime.
I'm perfectly happy with my MPP and we can get as rough and fucking wild as we want, I don't have any problem with buckling or stowing it away, only lost a 1/2 inch of girth, I think they expect people too fuck like preachers, then put it away and maybe use it again next week,,, not my style,,,, so fuck them IPP's for me.....
Tough decision brother, I lost all kinds of sleep going over that decision, your a young man, it all come down to your hopes and wish's for what lays ahead in your life.
I would bet real good money that the surgeon will subtly push you for another IPP,,,, and why wouldn't he ? it would be kind of stupid for him to push for the MPP and never make money off you again.
We went to a adult campground this past weekend, Friday night I stuck around the RV with the dog and she went to there club house at the campground and lets just say the wifey is very good at getting other women interested in some fun, and she found a couple of very, very curious women and brought them back to the RV Friday night with her, too my surprise she had already told they about my implant, and to tell you the truth I had a hard time to get rid of them 2 gals that night, me and the wifey worked them over well.
Saturday night they had a party at there club house and when we walked in I could tell there was chatter about us, wasn't sure if it was good or bad until a couple of other women strolled by to chat me up,,, I usually lay kind of back in the shadows of life, but that night the old MPP was kind of the talk of town there, and I was made all sorts of offers, so to speak, even from a couple of gay guys and one straight guy that has ED problems, he was just beside himself on the topic, in his 60's and never even thought about a implant until he met me.
Good luck in your decision brother.

Yep, is not the best feeling in the world. I was surprised, but accepting of it as well. No point dwelling, moving forward!

It's good to see how well you have adapted with your malleable. Certainly reinforces some optimistm in me regarding following a similar path to yours.

You are certainly not timid about your peculiarities, that must feel good. I'm thoroughly covert about my device, and I tell no one.

I have an appointment with the surgeon this thursday. Let's see what he has to say about our options.

[principles]

Damn man. Keep us updated on how is goes. Are you an out of pocket patient?
Tbh i also wuold consider an mpp at this point. This goes as your fifth surgery if i'm not wrong

1) Titan
2) Revision
3) Tactra Salvage
4) Titan
5) Titan pressurized wash (didn't remove it, the incision wasn't closing, so the surgeon tried this method borrowed from orthopedic surgeries and it worked, amazingly)
6) Upcoming revision

This will be my 6th surgery in 5.5 years.


Mostly out of pocket. Insurance covers the hospital bill. Surgeon and his team and the device are on me.

[Thisworld]

Damn man. Keep us updated on how is goes. Are you an out of pocket patient?
Tbh i also wuold consider an mpp at this point. This goes as your fifth surgery if i'm not wrong

1) Titan
2) Revision
3) Tactra Salvage
4) Titan
5) Titan pressurized wash (didn't remove it, the incision wasn't closing, so the surgeon tried this method borrowed from orthopedic surgeries and it worked, amazingly)
6) Upcoming revision

This will be my 6th surgery in 5.5 years.


Mostly out of pocket. Insurance covers the hospital bill. Surgeon and his team and the device are on me.

Device should be still in warranty. Was your doc high or low volume? The pressurized wash was a smart move

[JohnnyBorg]

Damn man. Keep us updated on how is goes. Are you an out of pocket patient?
Tbh i also wuold consider an mpp at this point. This goes as your fifth surgery if i'm not wrong

1) Titan
2) Revision
3) Tactra Salvage
4) Titan
5) Titan pressurized wash (didn't remove it, the incision wasn't closing, so the surgeon tried this method borrowed from orthopedic surgeries and it worked, amazingly)
6) Upcoming revision

This will be my 6th surgery in 5.5 years.


Mostly out of pocket. Insurance covers the hospital bill. Surgeon and his team and the device are on me.

Right now, finances - both in the present and thinking toward the future - are what are leaning me towards MPP for my own journey. I do wish that the Coloplast IPP’s tubing issues could be fixed and insurance more readily covered these procedures.