Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions? If so, PLEASE REPLY

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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions?

Postby ragingbull » Sat Jul 26, 2025 6:44 pm

ElbowRoom wrote:
ragingbull wrote:https://iu.coloplast.us/products/titan-penile-implants/


I don't understand the point of posting this statistic, it's rather meaningless.

If 10,000 IPPs are implanted per year, over the course of 20 years that's 200,000 implants "out in the wild". If 30% of one year's implants are revisions, that's 3000 revisions annually. Divide that by the 200K in use and you get an annual failure rate of 1.5%.

That's exactly in line with industry stats of 1-2% needing revision annually.


20,000 to 25,000 IPPs are installed every year in the USA. 50% of them fail every 20 years according to studies. How would you tweak your statistical calculations in that case?

If I use my IPP for 30 minutes sex in the morning and another 30 minutes sex every evening, every day, how long do you think the device would last?

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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions?

Postby tooyoung » Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:50 pm

ElbowRoom wrote:
ragingbull wrote:https://iu.coloplast.us/products/titan-penile-implants/


I don't understand the point of posting this statistic, it's rather meaningless.

If 10,000 IPPs are implanted per year, over the course of 20 years that's 200,000 implants "out in the wild". If 30% of one year's implants are revisions, that's 3000 revisions annually. Divide that by the 200K in use and you get an annual failure rate of 1.5%.

That's exactly in line with industry stats of 1-2% needing revision annually.


Your calculation is completely wrong..you divided anual failure rate by 20 years implantations...you should be dividing anual by anual and 20 years span by 20 years span.

And it's not 3k failures per year it's atleast 4.2 k...refer to lasthope's monthly post of ipps failures reported on MAUDE...also consider that not all failures are reported (there are multiple reasons for this but nvm we will take it as is)....yet there are ~350 failures per month reported.
If we consider that 22 k are implanted every year in the u.s (i believe that's a hoax number for multiple reasons as well but again nvm) , then yearly failure rate is 4.2k/22k...that's approx. 20% YEARLY failure rate.

Also why is coloplast's statistic that ragingbul posted meaningless ? Is it because you just don't like it ?

I might have already challenged your absurd calculation once on reddit..were that you?

See...being biased won't make us any good because they will keep manufacturing shit as long as you are feeding their propaganda...please stop...and all your look alikes who are cheering and celebrating months out of surgery as if it were decades...there's a fine line between positive attitude and arse licking...do what makes you sleep well at night but don't you ever make a fog and disrupt every attempt of progressive argument here...because it's obvious and lame....i bet u intentionally made the yearly rate ÷ 20 yrs rate...makes me kinda angry

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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions? If so, PLEASE REPLY

Postby ragingbull » Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:49 pm

Thank you TooYoung! It’s eye-opening and your explanation makes sense. I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed, so it’s enlightening to see these misinterpretations and intelligent refutations. I pray that everyone here enjoys their implants to the fullest in their lifetime, with the least amount of complications.

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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions?

Postby Wooody » Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:25 pm

tooyoung wrote:
ElbowRoom wrote:
ragingbull wrote:https://iu.coloplast.us/products/titan-penile-implants/


I don't understand the point of posting this statistic, it's rather meaningless.

If 10,000 IPPs are implanted per year, over the course of 20 years that's 200,000 implants "out in the wild". If 30% of one year's implants are revisions, that's 3000 revisions annually. Divide that by the 200K in use and you get an annual failure rate of 1.5%.

That's exactly in line with industry stats of 1-2% needing revision annually.


Your calculation is completely wrong..you divided anual failure rate by 20 years implantations...you should be dividing anual by anual and 20 years span by 20 years span.

And it's not 3k failures per year it's atleast 4.2 k...refer to lasthope's monthly post of ipps failures reported on MAUDE...also consider that not all failures are reported (there are multiple reasons for this but nvm we will take it as is)....yet there are ~350 failures per month reported.
If we consider that 22 k are implanted every year in the u.s (i believe that's a hoax number for multiple reasons as well but again nvm) , then yearly failure rate is 4.2k/22k...that's approx. 20% YEARLY failure rate.

Also why is coloplast's statistic that ragingbul posted meaningless ? Is it because you just don't like it ?

I might have already challenged your absurd calculation once on reddit..were that you?

See...being biased won't make us any good because they will keep manufacturing shit as long as you are feeding their propaganda...please stop...and all your look alikes who are cheering and celebrating months out of surgery as if it were decades...there's a fine line between positive attitude and arse licking...do what makes you sleep well at night but don't you ever make a fog and disrupt every attempt of progressive argument here...because it's obvious and lame....i bet u intentionally made the yearly rate ÷ 20 yrs rate...makes me kinda angry


I didn't create this post to "cheerlead" or to celebrate my 5 months out of surgery. Nor did I want I people to start posting stats and argue about revisions and reliability and argue about shit.

I simply wanted to create a post where anyone that has had an IPP, without revision, can post to give a kind of current pulse of our community with this situation. I kindly ask if you don't meet this ask, please ignore this post!
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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions?

Postby ragingbull » Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:30 pm

The first part of the post is about reliability. Coloplast's self published reliability stats and ensuing discussions are still 100% relevant to this post, even if some people don't like them.

Wooody wrote:I'm seeing posts on Reddit such as: "Most of the people there (FT) have to change over and over and end up having a malleable".
You think this is accurate? I don't. I've lurked and researched here almost a year now and have read a ton of posts, old and new and I'm just not seeing that. I do think that there is naturally going to be a disproportionate number of posts about problems compared to posts about everything being great and trouble free and I'm afraid this can skew people's perceptions of the reliability and reality of IPP's.....

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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions?

Postby Wooody » Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:32 am

ragingbull wrote:The first part of the post is about reliability. Coloplast's self published reliability stats and ensuing discussions are still 100% relevant to this post, even if some people don't like them.

Wooody wrote:I'm seeing posts on Reddit such as: "Most of the people there (FT) have to change over and over and end up having a malleable".
You think this is accurate? I don't. I've lurked and researched here almost a year now and have read a ton of posts, old and new and I'm just not seeing that. I do think that there is naturally going to be a disproportionate number of posts about problems compared to posts about everything being great and trouble free and I'm afraid this can skew people's perceptions of the reliability and reality of IPP's.....


Yeah, I shared a Reddit post which makes a claim about people's experiences here - ""Most of the people there (FT) have to change over and over and end up having a malleable", mentioned people posting about problems here, and asked if this is accurate.

You posted an irrelevant response to my questions (a stat from the Coloplast web site) that got the arguing going.

Maybe I should just edit my post to simply ask people to post if they've only had 1 surgery to be more clear.
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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions?

Postby ragingbull » Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:13 am

Wooody wrote:
ragingbull wrote:The first part of the post is about reliability. Coloplast's self published reliability stats and ensuing discussions are still 100% relevant to this post, even if some people don't like them.

Wooody wrote:I'm seeing posts on Reddit such as: "Most of the people there (FT) have to change over and over and end up having a malleable".
You think this is accurate? I don't. I've lurked and researched here almost a year now and have read a ton of posts, old and new and I'm just not seeing that. I do think that there is naturally going to be a disproportionate number of posts about problems compared to posts about everything being great and trouble free and I'm afraid this can skew people's perceptions of the reliability and reality of IPP's.....


Yeah, I shared a Reddit post which makes a claim about people's experiences here - ""Most of the people there (FT) have to change over and over and end up having a malleable", mentioned people posting about problems here, and asked if this is accurate.

You posted an irrelevant response to my questions (a stat from the Coloplast web site) that got the arguing going.

Maybe I should just edit my post to simply ask people to post if they've only had 1 surgery to be more clear.


I found the first section of your post on reliability and the praiseworthy and transparent statistic published by Coloplast (kudos to Coloplast for stepping up!) to be entirely relevant. I'm sorry it doesn’t sharply align with your pursuit of confirmation bias. I now realize it seems to seriously challenge your one-sided perspective, even if it fosters thorough debate among intelligent individuals who boldly analyze dubious extrapolations.

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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions?

Postby ElbowRoom » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:08 am

tooyoung wrote:
ElbowRoom wrote:
ragingbull wrote:https://iu.coloplast.us/products/titan-penile-implants/


I don't understand the point of posting this statistic, it's rather meaningless.

If 10,000 IPPs are implanted per year, over the course of 20 years that's 200,000 implants "out in the wild". If 30% of one year's implants are revisions, that's 3000 revisions annually. Divide that by the 200K in use and you get an annual failure rate of 1.5%.

That's exactly in line with industry stats of 1-2% needing revision annually.


Your calculation is completely wrong..you divided anual failure rate by 20 years implantations...you should be dividing anual by anual and 20 years span by 20 years span.

And it's not 3k failures per year it's atleast 4.2 k...refer to lasthope's monthly post of ipps failures reported on MAUDE...also consider that not all failures are reported (there are multiple reasons for this but nvm we will take it as is)....yet there are ~350 failures per month reported.
If we consider that 22 k are implanted every year in the u.s (i believe that's a hoax number for multiple reasons as well but again nvm) , then yearly failure rate is 4.2k/22k...that's approx. 20% YEARLY failure rate.

Also why is coloplast's statistic that ragingbul posted meaningless ? Is it because you just don't like it ?

I might have already challenged your absurd calculation once on reddit..were that you?

See...being biased won't make us any good because they will keep manufacturing shit as long as you are feeding their propaganda...please stop...and all your look alikes who are cheering and celebrating months out of surgery as if it were decades...there's a fine line between positive attitude and arse licking...do what makes you sleep well at night but don't you ever make a fog and disrupt every attempt of progressive argument here...because it's obvious and lame....i bet u intentionally made the yearly rate ÷ 20 yrs rate...makes me kinda angry


The OP doesn't want this discussion in here, so I'll answer you via DM.
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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions?

Postby tooyoung » Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:15 pm

ElbowRoom wrote:
tooyoung wrote:
ElbowRoom wrote:
I don't understand the point of posting this statistic, it's rather meaningless.

If 10,000 IPPs are implanted per year, over the course of 20 years that's 200,000 implants "out in the wild". If 30% of one year's implants are revisions, that's 3000 revisions annually. Divide that by the 200K in use and you get an annual failure rate of 1.5%.

That's exactly in line with industry stats of 1-2% needing revision annually.


Your calculation is completely wrong..you divided anual failure rate by 20 years implantations...you should be dividing anual by anual and 20 years span by 20 years span.

And it's not 3k failures per year it's atleast 4.2 k...refer to lasthope's monthly post of ipps failures reported on MAUDE...also consider that not all failures are reported (there are multiple reasons for this but nvm we will take it as is)....yet there are ~350 failures per month reported.
If we consider that 22 k are implanted every year in the u.s (i believe that's a hoax number for multiple reasons as well but again nvm) , then yearly failure rate is 4.2k/22k...that's approx. 20% YEARLY failure rate.

Also why is coloplast's statistic that ragingbul posted meaningless ? Is it because you just don't like it ?

I might have already challenged your absurd calculation once on reddit..were that you?

See...being biased won't make us any good because they will keep manufacturing shit as long as you are feeding their propaganda...please stop...and all your look alikes who are cheering and celebrating months out of surgery as if it were decades...there's a fine line between positive attitude and arse licking...do what makes you sleep well at night but don't you ever make a fog and disrupt every attempt of progressive argument here...because it's obvious and lame....i bet u intentionally made the yearly rate ÷ 20 yrs rate...makes me kinda angry


The OP doesn't want this discussion in here, so I'll answer you via DM.


The op's post is clearly about ipp reliability...it's just that responses weren't as glamorous as he had expected..anyways I'm continuing our discussion on a separate thread because your dm wasn't convincing at all.. especially that dm closure gives the misleading impression that my calculations and the Coloplast statistics were successfully refuted, which isn’t the case.

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Re: Have you had ONLY 1 IPP Surgery, with NO revisions? If so, PLEASE REPLY

Postby SWorks17 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 12:56 pm

Almost 4 years now with my AMS 700 LGX!

I love it, it keeps on ticking and takes a licking many times a week! Lol

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