Wrong sizing/half-hard?

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Shadow9494
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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby Shadow9494 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:23 pm

newbie443 wrote:
Shadow9494 wrote:Hey guys,

Implant date was 12/14 (12 days ago). First off, super bummed about sizing. In a VED I could reach 5.75 length without issue, 5 girth. I had lost some size due to peyronies and scarring (originally about 6×5.5). Dr. implanted 15cm+1RTE (about the smallest I've seen posted). Anyway, post implant I'm at about 4.5 (been too sore to check girth, but seems decent, although inconsistent from base to shaft - base much thicker - tubing?).

1st follow up was 8 days post. Dr said things look good and had me begin cycling, but I have a few questions I thought I'd post here before writing to my Dr.

Is it normal to not feel fully deflated? I feel half-hard all the time and it's uncomfortable to wear jeans. I squeeze to deflate and feel a buzzing at first, and momentarily while squeezing the penis, but then it stops and doesn't get any less rigid. How can I determine if I've been sized correctly?

I can only seem to get 5 pumps in before it's inflated. I can keep pumping though, 4-5 times, but it never gets any longer/harder.

I want to get size back - I'm cycling 2x a day for an hour, but any time I try to use the VED it's sore due to the penoscrotal incision/stitches. How long until this heals? I fear I can't use the VED until then.

I also feel I have a lot of excess skin - even when fully inflated - I never used to have this.

I've tried stretching a little up, down, left, right, but I haven't watched the Perito videos yet.

I still have Cialis. Is there any benefit to taking daily dosages still?

I'm open and thankful for any/all advice. Thank you!!


Welcome to the brotherhood. First some good news. Your doctor activated you at 8 days which is an indication the doctor is current with reports that show a relation to size loss and long waits for activation. So I would follow your doctors instructions to the letter. Ask your doctor before doing anything that was not instructed. Infection is at the highest risk now and will reduce over the first year. After that the risk stays at an extremely low rate. If your doctor signs on with the stretching exercise or VED use then you are good to go and follow your doctors instructions. After your incision is healed and you are released from the doctor you can decide if you want to go against your doctors instructions and try some other methods. I used pump adding cycling where I would add pumps every 5 minutes or so. I am surprised you are at an hour already. It took me some time to build up to an hour.

The recovery for this can take a very long time. I even had gains in length out past 1 year. I told myself I would not judge the outcome of this until 1 year after surgery. Think of a knee replacement. Takes some time for everything to recover. Sure you can walk in a short time but it is much longer until all the stiffness is gone. Your pump is self-lubricating and the more you use it the easier it will be to operate. I had trouble with my pump working correctly. The valves had trouble switching fully and some fluid would go back in the cylinders in deflate mode. I would pump until the bulb popped indicating I was in inflate mode and that would lock any fluid from going back in the cylinders. With my long pump adding cycling my shaft was sore and I had some discomfort from dog ears and would put in enough pumps to be comfortable. Now the pump is working well and I just press the deflate button until I fell the buzz after I release the button. I do not squeeze my penis any more it just deflates on it own.

The base of my shaft is much bigger than before. I was really narrow at the base and much larger 1/2 to 3/4 up the shaft. That changed with the surgery as the cylinders are rhe same size end to end, In many cases a doctor will use no or as few RTE's as possible. This results in attachment point of the tubing to the cylinders being down inside the corpora. Some doctors like to have the attachment point to exit the incision. This results in more RTE's and different way of measurement.

I too have extra skin. I even had scrotal webbing removed with my surgery. You have 3 erectile bodies in the penis and the IPP cylinders only take care of 2. If you are having glans engorgement with sex some of that extra skin may go away. If you no longer have glans engorgement you may want to try ED meds and see if that helps. Another question to ask your doctor about. But follow your doctors instructions as to when you are cleared for sex.

Good luck going forward with this.


Thank you so much for all of this information! Very useful, and I will no doubt come back to it for a refresher! I'm very happy to hear that most men are happy with the results. As stated, I'll be patient and just stick with the regimen and hope for the best!

Thanks again!!
54, AMS 700 LGX 12/14/22 15CM + 1RTE. Type 2 Diabetic. ED over 10 yrs. Had Peyronies (45 degree bend down mid-shaft) from using an extender and having vigorous intercourse - Xiaflex fixed. Possible venous leak.

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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby Leebert » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:59 pm

I have a cx and i only lost a half inch, but can gain it when i pit a ring over the whole package as to not mess with the other tubes.i get about 13 pumps in and when I use both hands to pump up i can feel more stretching. Im back to my 7" with the ring and haven't measured girth but its a lot bigger now. Wear stretch jeans , i love them, doesn't bind me at all, but gives a bulge with a 5" flaccid and i just own it nobody pays attention to it.
I'm 65, heart attack w/stent 10 yrs ago, mod.HBP, married 46 yrs, retired.2 strokes.No damage, except start of Ed, Live in Ada Michigan. implanted by Dr. Wise in Grand Rapids mi. Implanted on 9/2/21 with 15 cm + 5cm rte. Ams 700 cx ms pump

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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby tomas1 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:32 pm

I'd like to know what the surgical notes show about sizing.
The surgeon should have 2 measurements Inner and outer, not to use medical language.
Add the 2 together, and that's what should have been installed.
86 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.

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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby gjmjoe017 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:47 pm

In my opinion you shouldn’t even think about using a VED Untill you’re completely healed.Just continue the cycling for now.I didn’t start with the VED Untill about 2-3!months out!
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.

Shadow9494
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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby Shadow9494 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:07 am

Badspartan wrote:
portageriver wrote:
Shadow9494 wrote:Hey guys,

Implant date was 12/14 (12 days ago). First off, super bummed about sizing. In a VED I could reach 5.75 length without issue, 5 girth. I had lost some size due to peyronies and scarring (originally about 6×5.5). Dr. implanted 15cm+1RTE (about the smallest I've seen posted). Anyway, post implant I'm at about 4.5 (been too sore to check girth, but seems decent, although inconsistent from base to shaft - base much thicker - tubing?).

1st follow up was 8 days post. Dr said things look good and had me begin cycling, but I have a few questions I thought I'd post here before writing to my Dr.

Is it normal to not feel fully deflated? I feel half-hard all the time and it's uncomfortable to wear jeans. I squeeze to deflate and feel a buzzing at first, and momentarily while squeezing the penis, but then it stops and doesn't get any less rigid. How can I determine if I've been sized correctly?

I can only seem to get 5 pumps in before it's inflated. I can keep pumping though, 4-5 times, but it never gets any longer/harder.

I want to get size back - I'm cycling 2x a day for an hour, but any time I try to use the VED it's sore due to the penoscrotal incision/stitches. How long until this heals? I fear I can't use the VED until then.

I also feel I have a lot of excess skin - even when fully inflated - I never used to have this.

I've tried stretching a little up, down, left, right, but I haven't watched the Perito videos yet.

I still have Cialis. Is there any benefit to taking daily dosages still?

I'm open and thankful for any/all advice. Thank you!!



Welcome to the brotherhood! At day 12 it is WAY too early to be bummed as Keith mentioned. The first time I pumped mine up - at six weeks - I had the same feelings you describe. WTF - is that it? I could only force maybe 6 pumps in and felt I was considerably undersized.

I noticed at the six-month or so mark, things were going to be fine with consistent cycling and Pierto exercise. Today, at the year and a half-mark, I think I am finally maxed. Yes, I was (am still?) continuing to stretch out and grow a year and a half later and I am very pleased with my implant's size and performance. I personally feel I am double the size of my first-ever pump-up - the first pump-up was less than 10 - I now chamber 35 for a diamond cutter.

Yes, it is normal to not feel totally deflated. That's probably my only 'issue' if I had one, my dick is permanently harder than my natural one. Nothing I can do about that, but I only half give a care really as the positives far outweigh any negatives. Yup, wearing jeans is a challenge - research 'underwear' and/or 'concealment' if you think that might help you. I am with other guys on this site, some women have big breasts and wear them proudly so why can't I just be me?

Stitches etc. - ask your Doc but at 6 weeks you should be clear? Good luck, enjoy the ride, and cycle, cycle my man!

EDIT: I see you received the LGX. I think you can rest assured that you will need that extra skin you have there, lol. I know I did. Cialis is good if it agrees with you - often helps with glans engorgement


I too was worried about all that skin. I looked like I had not been circumcised, and thought that’s no what I wanted. I got a couple pumps is at day 2, and at day 27 now I can get 10 in and then wait and get a few more. I’ll be glad to finally get in the tub of hot water to soften the implant up a bit and get a few more pumps in. Glad to read your post


Glad to hear you're recovering well and cycling! I'm also happy this post has helped someone besides myself! Looking forward to a speedy recovery for us both!
54, AMS 700 LGX 12/14/22 15CM + 1RTE. Type 2 Diabetic. ED over 10 yrs. Had Peyronies (45 degree bend down mid-shaft) from using an extender and having vigorous intercourse - Xiaflex fixed. Possible venous leak.

Shadow9494
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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby Shadow9494 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:12 am

Leebert wrote:I have a cx and i only lost a half inch, but can gain it when i pit a ring over the whole package as to not mess with the other tubes.i get about 13 pumps in and when I use both hands to pump up i can feel more stretching. Im back to my 7" with the ring and haven't measured girth but its a lot bigger now. Wear stretch jeans , i love them, doesn't bind me at all, but gives a bulge with a 5" flaccid and i just own it nobody pays attention to it.


Good to know. I used to wear a ring after using VED, and was hoping not to have to, but, it always did leave me feeling larger - I just had difficultly maintaining it. Since you can pump up, does your ring just fit snugly around your package, or is it pretty constricting?

I've been digging in my closet looking for larger size jeans. Not much luck. Lol. Never been a sweats kinda guy.

Thanks for your reply/input!
54, AMS 700 LGX 12/14/22 15CM + 1RTE. Type 2 Diabetic. ED over 10 yrs. Had Peyronies (45 degree bend down mid-shaft) from using an extender and having vigorous intercourse - Xiaflex fixed. Possible venous leak.

Shadow9494
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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby Shadow9494 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:14 am

gjmjoe017 wrote:In my opinion you shouldn’t even think about using a VED Untill you’re completely healed.Just continue the cycling for now.I didn’t start with the VED Untill about 2-3!months out!


Agreed. After trying it a couple of times my stitches told me no. Thanks for your reply - I'll be patient!
54, AMS 700 LGX 12/14/22 15CM + 1RTE. Type 2 Diabetic. ED over 10 yrs. Had Peyronies (45 degree bend down mid-shaft) from using an extender and having vigorous intercourse - Xiaflex fixed. Possible venous leak.

Shadow9494
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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby Shadow9494 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:17 am

tomas1 wrote:I'd like to know what the surgical notes show about sizing.
The surgeon should have 2 measurements Inner and outer, not to use medical language.
Add the 2 together, and that's what should have been installed.


Thank you. I'll have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure the numbers match. I just felt undersized since I have quite a bit of extra skin and measuring an inch or more less than I was pre-implant, BUT, after reading everyones replies, it appears you don't really get back to "normal" until 6-12 months post.
54, AMS 700 LGX 12/14/22 15CM + 1RTE. Type 2 Diabetic. ED over 10 yrs. Had Peyronies (45 degree bend down mid-shaft) from using an extender and having vigorous intercourse - Xiaflex fixed. Possible venous leak.

tomas1
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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby tomas1 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:39 am

I know everyone's experience is different, but I got all my length back at first inflation.
About the surgical notes, I don't think you were measured correctly, but I hope I'm wrong.
86 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.

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Re: Wrong sizing/half-hard?

Postby Rider1400 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:11 am

tomas1 wrote:I know everyone's experience is different, but I got all my length back at first inflation.
About the surgical notes, I don't think you were measured correctly, but I hope I'm wrong.


Thomas1. Interested in what Dr says about your implant in the event you were to have cancer. I posted the question a while back and got zero response as to what happens when an implanted man has a prostectomy. Hopefully you won’t have to find out. I understand that the prostate isn’t connected to the implant but also realize that they do remove approximately 1to 1-1/2” of your urethra in the process causing men to loss length every time a prostectomy is done. I don’t have cancer and my numbers are very low but did have a scare a year back.
59 years old ED started mid 40s pills failed after 10 years. Injections works but diminishing results with pain. Implanted 5-22 Baylor,Scott,and White Dallas.Dr Michael Wierschem, infrapubic Coloplast with Classic pump 20cm and 1cm RTE. Going strong


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