There is an app for that!

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gregorbehr
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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby gregorbehr » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:39 am

alibaba wrote:Pump and motor look like something out of some crap kid's toy. Between lost remotes, chargers, extension cords, more complex mechanics and electricals that increase the chance of failure, the large battery/pump/charger/radio device under the skin (subcutaneous), this looks like a giant hell hole to me. Presently we have 4 things that could fail. Pump, cylinders, tubing, reservoir. That thing ads a dozen more. I would prefer the mechanical device I have now. At least I know if I were a month in the Amazon, I can still make it work on demand w/o need for added support equipment.


That's why I said low tech is the way to go.
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2 TURP surgeries caused Peyronie's. 1st implant lost to infection, 2nd one is about 5 years old. But "floppy head" due to all the scar tissue, couldn't get tips all the way up.

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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby justanotherdrumber » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:41 am

Lost Sheep wrote:
justanotherdrumber wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:Here thread that links to a patent for the device (or something like it).

"Wireless Penile Implant"

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5346


I'm not sure that I want to know where the charger plugs in at ..... :o

I think there are three options...at varying price points.

Standard.. plugs into your anus. Cost $0 alternative is to swallow an extension cord.
Premium, plugs into your navel. Cost $5,000
Deluxe: Trans-cutaneous: Cost $100,0000

or, you could have the "Frankenstein" option. electrodes that stick out of your penis. They can double as a "french tickler"


I think Im going with the aftermarket solar charging unit. IT looks like a normal pair of mirrored sunglasses, but you keep them propped up top just above your forehead. The terminals run down the temples, out the back and fasten to a 24 K Gold earring; one in each ear.
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Age 64 - g/f 34
Implanted ams700 lgx, 18cm+1cm RTE
March 2018

3rd-Nut
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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby 3rd-Nut » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:47 am

justanotherdrumber wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:
justanotherdrumber wrote:
I'm not sure that I want to know where the charger plugs in at ..... :o

I think there are three options...at varying price points.

Standard.. plugs into your anus. Cost $0 alternative is to swallow an extension cord.
Premium, plugs into your navel. Cost $5,000
Deluxe: Trans-cutaneous: Cost $100,0000

or, you could have the "Frankenstein" option. electrodes that stick out of your penis. They can double as a "french tickler"


I think Im going with the aftermarket solar charging unit. IT looks like a normal pair of mirrored sunglasses, but you keep them propped up top just above your forehead. The terminals run down the temples, out the back and fasten to a 24 K Gold earring; one in each ear.


I thought after your second sentence, you were going to say you would sit nude facing the sun with glasses propped on your penis just behind the corona. :lol:
PC 2006, AMS 700 LGX implanted 18+3, 2012, Dr. Paolone in Madison, WI- Married 47 yrs.

David_R
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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby David_R » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:29 am

:lol: I am sure there is a picture of that posted somewhere on the Internet!

Lost Sheep
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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:08 am

Silly scenarios aside (including mine), the electric pump contemplated would be no more likely to fail than a heart pacemaker. Operating it with a Smartphone is not necessary. A switch operated by a simple magnet (perhaps worn as a ring on the owner's finger) passed over a switch just under the abdominal or scrotal skin would be reliable, too.

This is an imminently doable solution, if more expensive.

It does have certain undeniable advantages.

1) One does not have to pump up one's scrotum
2) probably do not have to install any devices in the scrotum
3) can be pumped up gradually while one's partner administers foreplay (thereby maintaining the illusion of a natural erection gradually growing-something some women find important)
4) simpler surgery, with no (or smaller) components to be installed in the scrotum

The disadvantages, of course are real.
1) Greater mechanical complexity with concomitant increased likelihood of mechanical failure
2) losing the actuating magnet while erect, however unlikely, would be troublesome
3) likely to be more expensive.

Face it, this would be a step up in convenience
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby newbie443 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:30 pm

I may be a bit not completely accurate but my understanding is inflation time would be 7 minutes. An app for cell phone would be needed. So lost/misplaced phones are a problem. Doctor controlled settings. So doc sets inflation during surgery and that is where you are until activation. Then doctor sets inflation level for cycling. And you are given access to the app. So doc has control if you get 80,90,100 percent inflation. Just inflated to doctor set max or deflated to 0. Charging is done by placing a charger over the battery/controller pack just under the skin. Size of aprox. deck of cards. Charging time seems to be long. Maybe 4 hours per inflation. Not sure about my memory. Maybe 5 inflations before charging is required. There are options being considered. More control by the patient on inflation levels. Faster inflation times and shorter recharging times. Key fob switch so you don't have to have your phone with you every time you have sex. Reduction of size of battery/controller to 1/2 deck of cards. Ability to to have multiple inflation settings.

And there was something about doctor being able to monitor your inflation levels, length of time, and number of inflations. And some other stuff but when the info was given there was a lot and my memory is not as good as most. But that is kind of what is stuck in my head with the info I received.

This has been in the wind for the last 2 years. And I had some info on it back then. Just was able to get this other info after following up on that 2 year old info to see if it had died or not. Not sure if it will ever come to anything or not but it seems it is still being looked at.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:42 pm

newbie443 wrote:I may be a bit not completely accurate but my understanding is inflation time would be 7 minutes. An app for cell phone would be needed. So lost/misplaced phones are a problem. Doctor controlled settings. So doc sets inflation during surgery and that is where you are until activation. Then doctor sets inflation level for cycling. And you are given access to the app. So doc has control if you get 80,90,100 percent inflation. Just inflated to doctor set max or deflated to 0. Charging is done by placing a charger over the battery/controller pack just under the skin. Size of aprox. deck of cards. Charging time seems to be long. Maybe 4 hours per inflation. Not sure about my memory. Maybe 5 inflations before charging is required. There are options being considered. More control by the patient on inflation levels. Faster inflation times and shorter recharging times. Key fob switch so you don't have to have your phone with you every time you have sex. Reduction of size of battery/controller to 1/2 deck of cards. Ability to to have multiple inflation settings.

And there was something about doctor being able to monitor your inflation levels, length of time, and number of inflations. And some other stuff but when the info was given there was a lot and my memory is not as good as most. But that is kind of what is stuck in my head with the info I received.

This has been in the wind for the last 2 years. And I had some info on it back then. Just was able to get this other info after following up on that 2 year old info to see if it had died or not. Not sure if it will ever come to anything or not but it seems it is still being looked at.

It seems that there is avid interest from at least one manufacturer in a powered, self-inflating IPP. Using saline and a reservoir (as current IPPs do) is one thing that might hold development back, as there are other IPPs using designs that eliminate the reservoir and the fluid. Essentially, they would be an inflatable one-piece - MUCH easier operation to implant.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby SW0110 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:53 pm

I don't know. I think it might be nice if they had some type of pump that was automatic. Heck I can keep my truck shocks inflated with an app. Why not an implant. No more bulb in the scrotum. Just a pump unit put somewhere. It would be easy I would think to do remote charging.

Pull up the app. One setting for oral. One for masturbation. One for sex. And full for just keeping things really tight and 100 percent full.

No tired hands, arthritis issues, etc.. these days the whole battery pump unit would probably be pretty tiny. Battery should not be an issue. It only uses juice to pump. Once stopped no battery drain. If you got 5 cycles on a charge that would be fine for me. The most I have pumped in one day is 3 times.

I look forward to the future.
18 cm plus 1 rte titan installed March 2019. Revision March 2020 by Dr. Andrew Todd, Richmond KY. He replaced the titan with an AMS 700 LGX 18 cm cylinder plus 2 rte for 20 cm total length.

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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby newbie443 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:59 pm

I truly have no idea if this has gone past one or more guys in an R&D departments just putting ideas down on paper to generate reports to draw a pay check or if any actual development of hard parts and testing has been done. And as you say there may be other better approaches.

But I think that the key feature is that the doctor and I would think the device manufacture would have access to inflation data.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

67 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: There is an app for that!

Postby newbie443 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:36 pm

SW0110 wrote:I don't know. I think it might be nice if they had some type of pump that was automatic. Heck I can keep my truck shocks inflated with an app. Why not an implant. No more bulb in the scrotum. Just a pump unit put somewhere. It would be easy I would think to do remote charging.

Pull up the app. One setting for oral. One for masturbation. One for sex. And full for just keeping things really tight and 100 percent full.

No tired hands, arthritis issues, etc.. these days the whole battery pump unit would probably be pretty tiny. Battery should not be an issue. It only uses juice to pump. Once stopped no battery drain. If you got 5 cycles on a charge that would be fine for me. The most I have pumped in one day is 3 times.

I look forward to the future.


From what I understand is that multiple setting was not even a given. The focus seemed to be with doctor control (ae patient not being able to inflate or deflate on his own and monitoring). And most likely device manufacture also. I would think the more hardware for multiple levels of inflation would be more problems. Much easier to just have inflate and deflate. So this would reduce the ability for long pump adding stretching. The bulb/pump in the scrotum delete is I think a big plus and would reduce discomfort and chance of infection. And the problem with breaking in the pump and pump problems. Not saying that the electric pump won't have the same problems just that the man will not have to learn how to or deal will swelling and pain to operate it early on. And some men really don't like this for a number of reasons. Might even open up more doctors activating earlier as it has been shown this reduces size loss. From what I understood was 4 hours to recharge per inflation. So 20 hours to fully recharge if you did 5 inflations without recharging. Or 12 hours for your 3 inflations. And with any battery those times would seem to change over a few years. So a bit of time to be tethered to a charger.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

67 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.


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