Yes or No or Wait

The final frontier. Deciding when, if and how.
Lost Sheep
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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:14 pm

radioradio wrote:
geophd wrote:Greg, that helps, we appreciate it.

I guess what young men want to know is how our erection would feel if we woke up tomorrow morning with a penile implant. Would we feel the tubing? Would our glans engorge?... Would It feel a little bit like a tool with my skin wrapped around it, but I'll take it. IT WORKS.
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(Paraphrased)

The original focus of this thread was to address whether it is better to implant now, continue with alternative/diminished but still functional sexual ability or wait on improvements in the technology.

The shift in focus is relevant, particularly as to the benefits for the implantee, so I do not object.

I think, however, that my topic/thread in the "Implants" section titled:

Erection: Organic or Mechanical?
(do a search, I cannot provide a link from my tablet)

contributes to this part of the discussion.
That thread was meant to address this point particularly from the standpoint of the implantee's partner, but addresses both persons' feelings.

Awaiting my own experience with restoration, I am at your service

Lost Sheep
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Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby bldoink » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:54 pm

R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby geophd » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:05 pm

Of course, this forum is filled with topics that have been discussed repetitively: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7738&hilit=Erection%3A+Organic+or+Mechanical%3F

Good call. When I read Merrix's post it seems the most intuitive to me. Definitely not better than the original but what is it better than, is it better than a dick with any level of ED?

Ultimately, it seems there is still a gray area for implantation. Where is an implanted dick better than what you have?:

Fully functional - fully functional with low dose pills - fully functional with high doses - partially functional with high doses - injections

For instance, 5 mg cialis is unreliable daily for me, 10 mg is more reliable but still can feel a leak and stress during sex, I could take 15+ daily but then my dick is numb and side effects. My girlfriend wants to move in together and we like to have sex 1-2 times per day. Do I take high daily doses of cialis, have less sex, or get an implant? The implant seems to solve all these problems but without experiencing it's impossible to know if it's better than what I have.

This is not to discuss my personal "Yes or No or Wait" but to describe that different men have different issues and trying to narrow down if the implant will improve their quality of life. If a man can improve his quality of life I hope that he does it because you don't get another life.
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Peyronie's: 6 months, indents cause loss of 0.5 inches of girth, fibrosis growing, caused ED.
ED: 10mg Cialis daily, getting headaches, not interested in VED/injections.
Considering implant to avoid a lifetime of cialis and to correct deformity.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:16 pm

geophd wrote:Of course, this forum is filled with topics that have been discussed repetitively: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7738&hilit=Erection%3A+Organic+or+Mechanical%3F

Good call. When I read Merrix's post it seems the most intuitive to me. Definitely not better than the original but what is it better than, is it better than a dick with any level of ED?

Ultimately, it seems there is still a gray area for implantation. Where is an implanted dick better than what you have?:

Fully functional - fully functional with low dose pills - fully functional with high doses - partially functional with high doses - injections

For instance, 5 mg cialis is unreliable daily for me, 10 mg is more reliable but still can feel a leak and stress during sex, I could take 15+ daily but then my dick is numb and side effects. My girlfriend wants to move in together and we like to have sex 1-2 times per day. Do I take high daily doses of cialis, have less sex, or get an implant? The implant seems to solve all these problems but without experiencing it's impossible to know if it's better than what I have.

This is not to discuss my personal "Yes or No or Wait" but to describe that different men have different issues and trying to narrow down if the implant will improve their quality of life. If a man can improve his quality of life I hope that he does it because you don't get another life.

EXACTLY! Thanks for expressing the corr of my pont. Where is the tipping point (no pun intended), the "go-no go" decision when you KNOW, it's time now.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby geophd » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:03 pm

Honestly Lost Sheep I go from one day being like: your dick is broken due to an injury and not 100% functional, get an implant and be 100% functional.

To somedays being like: holy shit an implant in my dick!?!

To somedays being like: holy shit a lifetime of struggling with ED!?!
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Peyronie's: 6 months, indents cause loss of 0.5 inches of girth, fibrosis growing, caused ED.
ED: 10mg Cialis daily, getting headaches, not interested in VED/injections.
Considering implant to avoid a lifetime of cialis and to correct deformity.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby jmaqQK » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:02 am

My two bob's worth, as single open dating guy - with much younger ladies typically in their 30s, but am obviously in an older age bracket:

My tipping point was that I was up to 10mg daily cialis, drop 100mg cialis before weekend starts, another 100mg cialis 4 hours or so before 'event' evenings and then 50mg Viagra just 'before' event (a full 'stacking ' regime) and even then not reliable, due to leaking - and the trauma, embarrassment and stress at the time when not working, that we all go through - let alone the side affects of stacking so much (not practical usuing injections and / or pumps in the open dating game).

Yeah, I shouldn't have waited so long making the decision to implant - with ongoing trauma and lost some length in the process of delaying that decision.

How I have rationalized things is that sex is really in the head and sensations, and the body is simply an electo-mechanical-hydraulic machine - erections are simply a 'delivery system'...who cares how we make that delivery system work anyway. We as men attach too much to this whole 'manhood' erections thing I see now in hindsight.

If a date discovers my implant and does not want to proceed any further then skip over that one and just move to another more accommodating lady I reckon - not suitable or compatible anyway.

Cheers
63 year old single guy, battled ED since late 40 y/o (spinal-pelvic injury). Had an AMS 700 LGX (21cm + 1cm RTE) fitted on 23rd Sept 2017 (Dr. Tanwar at GNH hospital - medical tourism) and all going well so far ;) ...on a new bionic 'journey'

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby dg_moore » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:39 am

I waited, dithered, and vascillated for years as pills, injections, VED, and various spurious Internet "solutions" failed. I could have gotten my implant at any time during that long process, but false hope kept winning out as I continued to procrastinate. Little did I know that my final feeble attempt at sex would be my last ever- a couple of years later I finally got my implant - a complete success by any measure - but it was too late. Will this happen to you? Unlikely, but what do you have to gain by waiting? What do you have to lose? Possibly everything.
Dave, 80, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer (failed Sept 2020) - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
Life is not the way it's supposed to be, it's the way it is.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby radioradio » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:52 am

dg_moore wrote:I waited, dithered, and vascillated for years as pills, injections, VED, and various spurious Internet "solutions" failed. I could have gotten my implant at any time during that long process, but false hope kept winning out as I continued to procrastinate. Little did I know that my final feeble attempt at sex would be my last ever- a couple of years later I finally got my implant, but it was too late. Will this happen to you? Unlikely, but what do you have to gain by waiting? What do you have to lose? Possibly everything.

Dave,
Your story was a major reason I moved so quickly to the implant solution. The pills had become virtually ineffective before my RALP, and I knew deep down that I was never going to get my old capabilities back after the surgery. I did the VED for rehab, but never for sex. I gave the injections an honest effort, and could have lived with that solution -- if they had worked.
When they didn't work, I went (nervously) full speed ahead for an implant. Life is short, and you never know when it is going to change its mind and leave you in an unexpected place. Your story was my proof statement for my position. Thank you for sharing it.

Bob
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Born '52. Married '79. RALP 3/1/17. ED 50+% prior to surgery even w/ meds. VED, Injections, ineffective. Considering implant even before PCa diagnosis. Dr. Kramer 8/2/17. LGX 21cm+0.5 RTE. Kramer replaced/repositioned pump 12/13/17. Willing to Show/Tell.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby dg_moore » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:04 am

Life is what happens while you're making other plans. If I could sell my education for what it cost me, I'd be a wealthy man.
Dave, 80, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer (failed Sept 2020) - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
Life is not the way it's supposed to be, it's the way it is.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby radioradio » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:07 am

dg_moore wrote:If I could sell my education for what it cost me, I'd be a wealthy man.


Oh, so true!
Born '52. Married '79. RALP 3/1/17. ED 50+% prior to surgery even w/ meds. VED, Injections, ineffective. Considering implant even before PCa diagnosis. Dr. Kramer 8/2/17. LGX 21cm+0.5 RTE. Kramer replaced/repositioned pump 12/13/17. Willing to Show/Tell.


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