Length Outcome Theory

[edjohn]

Maybe it’s too simple to call a theory, but what about this… what if the difference we see in length outcomes comes down to the difference in how much the CC wants to stretch vs how much the crus does?

If the CC is naturally pliable in an individual, he sees drastic length gains (measurable), and if the crus (i.e. anchor point of the CC) is pliable, he sees little length gain despite vigorous cycling?

Surgeons will say “most guys see .5 to 2cm gain on revision” but if the crus has been pushed deeper, this doesn’t mean they get a massively longer penis in practice.

I though of this because sometimes I notice pain in the perineum without any in the glans upon cycling… anybody experienced this?

[AntonS]

Maybe it’s too simple to call a theory, but what about this… what if the difference we see in length outcomes comes down to the difference in how much the CC wants to stretch vs how much the crus does?

If the CC is naturally pliable in an individual, he sees drastic length gains (measurable), and if the crus (i.e. anchor point of the CC) is pliable, he sees little length gain despite vigorous cycling?

Surgeons will say “most guys see .5 to 2cm gain on revision” but if the crus has been pushed deeper, this doesn’t mean they get a massively longer penis in practice.

I though of this because sometimes I notice pain in the perineum without any in the glans upon cycling… anybody experienced this?

I have the same thing. It hurts at the ends of the proximal part, but there is no pain at the ends of the distal part. But for me, this is related to scars on the tunica in the distal part. How much length have you regained since you started cycling?

[edjohn]

Maybe it’s too simple to call a theory, but what about this… what if the difference we see in length outcomes comes down to the difference in how much the CC wants to stretch vs how much the crus does?

If the CC is naturally pliable in an individual, he sees drastic length gains (measurable), and if the crus (i.e. anchor point of the CC) is pliable, he sees little length gain despite vigorous cycling?

Surgeons will say “most guys see .5 to 2cm gain on revision” but if the crus has been pushed deeper, this doesn’t mean they get a massively longer penis in practice.

I though of this because sometimes I notice pain in the perineum without any in the glans upon cycling… anybody experienced this?

I have the same thing. It hurts at the ends of the proximal part, but there is no pain at the ends of the distal part. But for me, this is related to scars on the tunica in the distal part. How much length have you regained since you started cycling?

I didn’t lose anything from surgery but if I am gaining it’s not fast. I have only really cycled a few weeks though. Clavell likes us to start later.

When you say scars in the distal part do you mean you were injecting close to the glans and developed built in “pads” essentially?

[prguy3]

Maybe it’s too simple to call a theory, but what about this… what if the difference we see in length outcomes comes down to the difference in how much the CC wants to stretch vs how much the crus does?

If the CC is naturally pliable in an individual, he sees drastic length gains (measurable), and if the crus (i.e. anchor point of the CC) is pliable, he sees little length gain despite vigorous cycling?

Surgeons will say “most guys see .5 to 2cm gain on revision” but if the crus has been pushed deeper, this doesn’t mean they get a massively longer penis in practice.

I though of this because sometimes I notice pain in the perineum without any in the glans upon cycling… anybody experienced this?

I have the same thing. It hurts at the ends of the proximal part, but there is no pain at the ends of the distal part. But for me, this is related to scars on the tunica in the distal part. How much length have you regained since you started cycling?

I didn’t lose anything from surgery but if I am gaining it’s not fast. I have only really cycled a few weeks though. Clavell likes us to start later.

When you say scars in the distal part do you mean you were injecting close to the glans and developed built in “pads” essentially?

You have a 26cm implant. The longest for Coloplast is 28cm. You mention you are back to original size. Honest question: are you aspiring for longer? In your shoes, I would not want any longer. Longer cylinder means requiring more fluid for your reservoir (which is already close to maxing out) and theoretical earlier failure. In your situation, I would be grateful for my huge (pun intended) win and live my life stress free. Congrats on your successful outcome, brother!

[edjohn]

You have a 26cm implant. The longest for Coloplast is 28cm. You mention you are back to original size. Honest question: are you aspiring for longer? In your shoes, I would not want any longer. Longer cylinder means requiring more fluid for your reservoir (which is already close to maxing out) and theoretical earlier failure. In your situation, I would be grateful for my huge (pun intended) win and live my life stress free. Congrats on your successful outcome, brother!

So Clavell said directly that he filled the 125mL res and added approximately 15 more to minimize the chance of bottoming out on fluid... he says he sees guys cycle too aggressively and empty the pump too soon and essentially overstretch the implant/CC and end up with less than 100% firmness and a dead pump. He specifically advised caution on cycling so hardness is not lost... which of course we men will typically ignore. If the Titan stretches the CC too much and I run out of fluid so be it... I'll get a revision and upsize. My pumped length was almost an inch over my typical erect length which tempts me to just keep chasing gains. There is no reason not to (from a male perspective).

Logically, if he has to replace it with a 28cm (and trim a little if necessary) all he needs to do is add a little extra fluid. Guys like us don't care if we can't deflate to a wrinkled up 0% fill. It's still relative.

[ElbowRoom]

So Clavell said directly that he filled the 125mL res and added approximately 15 more to minimize the chance of bottoming out on fluid... he says he sees guys cycle too aggressively and empty the pump too soon and essentially overstretch the implant/CC and end up with less than 100% firmness and a dead pump. He specifically advised caution on cycling so hardness is not lost... which of course we men will typically ignore. If the Titan stretches the CC too much and I run out of fluid so be it... I'll get a revision and upsize. My pumped length was almost an inch over my typical erect length which tempts me to just keep chasing gains. There is no reason not to (from a male perspective).

Logically, if he has to replace it with a 28cm (and trim a little if necessary) all he needs to do is add a little extra fluid. Guys like us don't care if we can't deflate to a wrinkled up 0% fill. It's still relative.

I have a 28cm Titan, and Dr. Hakky also slightly overfilled my reservoir to make sure there's sufficient fluid. Honestly, I knew I was between a 26cm and 28cm, but I hoped for a 26. The reason is when I need a revision any increase in size will come down to RTEs, which is sub-optimal. Not the worst problem to have, but it's good to have some room for growth down the line.

Also, I will state that a 28cm implant does have issues. It's hard to hide when "flaccid" (in quotes because it's still pretty firm when empty). Also when exercising you need to secure it to prevent it moving around too much, and at least so fat at nine weeks I still put a baby sock over it during exercise to prevent chafing/sensitivity issues.

A big dick is great in the bedroom, but it can be a hassle elsewhere.