Third Surgery in 6 Months

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I'm in the waiting room for my third surgery in six months. This revision will hopefully address the tubing that's bunched up beneath the left side of my shaft. I'm hoping this shorter surgery won't trigger an infection or additional size loss - if it did, I honestly don't know if I could bring myself to be intimate again.

After my first surgery, I lost roughly an inch in length. The panic from that loss drove me to get a revision three months later, upgrading to a length-expanding model. In hindsight, this may have been premature. Despite the longer cylinders and length-expansion, I've experienced what appears to be another inch of length loss plus significant girth reduction - enough that I've avoided intimacy entirely since.

I suspect the culprit is cumulative scar tissue from multiple procedures. I'm no expert, but I have a theory: men who maintain their size through multiple revisions may have been "showers" originally - their erect size didn't depend heavily on tunica expansion. For "growers" like myself, who relied on significant tunica stretching for erections, each surgery seems to generate scar tissue that limits that expansion capacity, resulting in progressively smaller erect dimensions.

Pray for me.

Hang in there! hopefully recovery is going well. Revisions are never fun and anxiety provoking.

Thanks mate. I’m only 3 days out from surgery and I think my mind is playing tricks on me. I came out of surgery feeling 50% inflated and now my implant feels completely deflated. Really hoping this isn’t a leak.

Hey, buddy! I have the LGX and, yes, it took about a year of consistent cycling to get all my length back. So don’t freak out. You have to be patient. Don’t think about jumping straight back into sex; you’ll get there. Just focus on cycling. You should start to see significant gains around 8 months once the swelling fully goes down. Much like yourself, I was freaked out about everything. You’ll be fine.

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I'm in the waiting room for my third surgery in six months. This revision will hopefully address the tubing that's bunched up beneath the left side of my shaft. I'm hoping this shorter surgery won't trigger an infection or additional size loss - if it did, I honestly don't know if I could bring myself to be intimate again.

After my first surgery, I lost roughly an inch in length. The panic from that loss drove me to get a revision three months later, upgrading to a length-expanding model. In hindsight, this may have been premature. Despite the longer cylinders and length-expansion, I've experienced what appears to be another inch of length loss plus significant girth reduction - enough that I've avoided intimacy entirely since.

I suspect the culprit is cumulative scar tissue from multiple procedures. I'm no expert, but I have a theory: men who maintain their size through multiple revisions may have been "showers" originally - their erect size didn't depend heavily on tunica expansion. For "growers" like myself, who relied on significant tunica stretching for erections, each surgery seems to generate scar tissue that limits that expansion capacity, resulting in progressively smaller erect dimensions.

Pray for me.

Hi Jsmith, i just saw your post now. How are you feeling these days? if you want we can connect via PM as i am also a rigicon user.

If i understand you correctly, you lost 1 inch on your first surgery, and another inch on your second surgery. So total 2 inches?

Even if i understood that correctly, i strongly believe this is temporary. Are you cycling every day? It seems only 3 months since you got the AX and i really think it takes much longer than that to achieve full length. I am confident you may recover all your length if you cycle frequently, you may want to add a VED as well

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Hi JSmith, I am sorry to hear about that. You are the first person I have heard about that has had a similar situation. I lost 1.5" after my first surgery 3 years ago. I got a revision 9 months ago and lost another inch and there is kinking and bunching causing it to be deformed. I wish you the best and hope to hear that you are progressing well!

Hi Jason, may i ask which model implants you got? And were you cycling during all that time?

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After my first surgery, I lost roughly an inch in length.

Jsmith, what was your bone-pressed size prior to the first implant, and what is your size now?

The size of your implant is the best predictor of what will EVENTUALLY be your length. Most guys wind up with 2/3 to 3/4 of their total implant size showing distal. The variation is mostly dependent on crus depth.

Your new implant RTEs are .5 and 1 cm longer than your prior implant. I don’t know if that difference is due to how the AX is sized relative to the X, or what. But presumably you will wind up with that extra length.

But you also probably would have would up with that size (minus the RTE difference) if you had simply given the original equipment time to adjust. It takes a while for the implant to fully extend itself, often up to a year.

Hey LetoMan. Before surgery, I was just over 6” BPL with about 6.5” girth. After my first surgery, my best measured length at 3 months was around 5.5” BPL. In hindsight, I now realise I probably would’ve regained another 0.5–1” with more time and consistent cycling.

At the moment, I’m measuring closer to 4.5–5” BPL despite having a length-expanding model, and my girth is noticeably reduced as well (I haven’t even bothered measuring it). I also need to take a two-week break from cycling, which I’m really hoping won’t negatively affect my long-term length.

Jsmith, 6 inch (15.2cm) BPL will be EASILY recovered with a 22cm AX over time. I'd bet my money on it. Unless you are extremely overweight so that your belly is covering your penis and you can't see it. But if you are average weight i don't see why you wouldn't eventually recover that size.

I have a bunch of questions for you:

Do you still have engorgement?
And how high up your glans are the tips of the cylinders?
What is your opinion about Dr Love?
Why did Dr love suggest the X the first time instead of the AX right away? what was his reasoning?
Did rigicon cover the warranty or did you have to pay for it again?
Have both your rigicon pumps been noisy or silent? This is out of personal curiosity
Have you noticed any difference between the X and the AX besides size? like does one feel more comfortable than the other, or better firmness. Would you choose any over the other for any reason?

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Jsmith, thanks for the data. My pedestrian opinion is that you are likely to get back to 6 inches length, and probably a bit more. You have 23.5 cm with a supposedly length-expanding model. When you were measured, it accommodated that size… if all you are showing now is 4.5 to 5 inches, then unless you have an unusually deep crus, there is a significant portion of your implant that is simply not appearing. You need to give your body time to let it settle in.

I think one of the biggest misconceptions guys have around here is that cycling somehow makes your dick grow. But that’s not what is happening. Your dick grows because the implant reaches its full extension. Cycling is helping it on that path, and preventing a surgical capsule from hardening around it that would stop that extension. Some of the reasons why it is not reaching full extension yet is because pliability of the tissues may be keeping it from doing so, either because of lack of flexibility in the tunica or swelling from surgery or some other reason. It also may just be bunched up and not fully extending just yet. But it CAN reach full extension, and the reason you should know it can is because the doc stretched you that far during surgery without tearing your tunica.

I seem to have a deep crus, but within the range I described above. I am fairly similar to you. I have 24 total cm of implant. I was 4.75 inches a few months after implantation. Another brother who came before did the math and predicted that a year later I would be 6-7 inches. And fuck me if he wasn’t right. I wasn’t playing close attention, but a year later I measured a bit over 6, up to 6.25 depending on glans engorgement.

As for girth, this will also take some time. But you are probably likely to get at least close to your prior size. I’m not as familiar with reports about the Rigicon, but presuming it has the physical capacity to reach that girth, and that your tunica is also capable of expanding to that girth (which presumably is true if it could immediately prior to implant), then you should get there.

It just takes time. Often up to a year.

I wish we could send newly implanted guys a welcome packet that told them to chill out and give it time. You still have a whole lot of implant that has yet to appear. Chill out and give it time!

Be well,
Leto

Thanks, Leto. My surgeon mentioned that my distal length was 11cm (12.5cm proximal) with the penoscrotal approach during my second surgery, compared to 13-13.5cm (9-9.5cm proximal) with the infrapubic approach for my first. Do you remember when you regained most of your length, or was it a fairly gradual improvement all the way up to 12 months?

I didn’t see much growth with my current AX in the first three months, though in hindsight I probably could have pushed cycling harder. I was pretty upset at the time dealing with the tubing issues, which definitely affected how pain tolerant I was.

Distal and proximal are quite irrelevant when you compare infrapubic and penoscrotal. Even when using penoscrotal, different surgeons do the corporotomy lower or higher, changing completely the distal/proximal measurements.

Regarding infections, i assume on your last surgery you didn't have a corporotomy, which makes the risk of a deep infection much lower.