Jsmith194589 wrote:My surgeon mentioned that my distal length was 11cm (12.5cm proximal) with the penoscrotal approach during my second surgery, compared to 13-13.5cm (9-9.5cm proximal) with the infrapubic approach for my first. Do you remember when you regained most of your length, or was it a fairly gradual improvement all the way up to 12 months?
I didn’t see much growth with my current AX in the first three months, though in hindsight I probably could have pushed cycling harder. I was pretty upset at the time dealing with the tubing issues, which definitely affected how pain tolerant I was.
The distal/proximal measurements your doc made are likely from the incision site, not bone-pressed. So they probably don’t tell us much about the depth of your crus. Most guys seem to have about a roughly 50/50 measurement that way when done penoscrotal, which aligns with what you describe. I don’t know enough about how that would vary from infrapubic. I really don’t think you can read much from that.
As for my length… I didn’t measure myself that much. I probably only did it a half dozen times or less over the course of that year. But I did write my length down in a post about two months in, and that’s why I was able to compare a year later. I don’t think I suddenly got bigger one day, so I suspect it was gradual.
Again, my pedestrian opinion is that cycling has little to do with it, at least not from some magical “cycling” process. The implant needs to be broken in, your body needs to adapt to it. If you are pumping it up to have sex or jack off on a mostly daily basis, that is probably fine. I have seen no indicators from a doctor that they believe there is any benefit from “aggressive” cycling to the point of pain or not missing days, etc. Eid seems to be the only one who advocates for “early” cycling. It seems to me that would be an easily testable proposition: after controlling for initial length, implant length and other variables, if this early cycling led to some length gain that guys who started later didn’t get, that would show up in the data.
But I doubt that is possible, because I don’t think gains from cycling correlate strongly to “cycling.” Meaning, how much you gain likely has little to do with how aggressively you cycle, because everyone winds up roughly where they were before and where you would expect them to be given implant size.
Rather, gains correlate strongly to how big your implant is, and whether it is fully showing at first or not. In other words, cycling does not magically make the plastic implant in your body expand. It just makes your body adjust to it. Cycling may be accelerating how quickly you gain. And it may be helpful in preventing problems such as developing scar tissue that doesn’t allow you to further expand. But it is not making the 23.5 cm of plastic implant any longer than it was when it was implanted.
(I’m less familiar with the Rigicon models, but the consensus around the AMS LGX model is that the length expansion claims may be overblown. Maybe they expand a little, but if you are properly sized the issue is not whether your implant can expand lengthwise, but whether your tunica can accommodate expansion.)
There are a number of studies that show pretty much everyone regains their length plus often a small bit more, and that it takes time, up to a year later.
Bottom line: cycle daily. Don’t hurt yourself. Don’t sweat it if you miss a day or even a few. You are very likely going to get back to where you were before regardless, and aggressive cycling ain’t gonna make your implant bigger. Enjoy your hard dick. I had just as much fun fucking with my 4.75 inch dick as I do with my 6 inch dick. Chill out and be patient.
Studies:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8519487/https://www.sciencedirect.com:5037/scie ... 951531017150. Implanted 5/21/2024 at Kaiser SSF. AMS 700 CX 21cm, 3cm RTE. Penoscrotal. Venous leak my whole life. Pills helped, but hated the side effects; worked less as I aged. Skipped injections. Grateful to bionic brotherhood that helped me make this decision.
