Restoring length after implantation using cycling

[AntonS]

Let me try to make this as simple as possible.

Different types of materials can be a fixed length. For example, you could have six inches of medical pipe, or a six inch inelastic condom.

No matter what you do with the pipe, it will always be six inches. You can’t fit a six inch pipe into a five inch space. But the condom can bend, scrunch, twist, turn. It’s pliable. You could fit a six inch condom into a five inch space.

Please note I am not saying implant “cylinders” are like a condom. But they are much closer to a condom than a pipe. The material is designed to become rigid when inflated. But when uninflated it has a lot of “give” to it. It bends, it twists.

When the doc puts an implant inside the tunica, the tunica is what restricts the full extension of that implant.

The doc “sizes” the implant to you by giving your dick a super-stretch. They do this while you are under anaesthesia after cutting you open, and run a string through your penis and poke it through your glans to measure the distal length, and poke deep into your crus to measure the proximal length. Put them together, and that’s the size of the implant you are going to get, including extenders.

What they are measuring using this super-stretch is the limit of how far your tunica can stretch, and how deep an implant can go into your crus.

Once measured, they shove this semi-rigid condom/balloon-like thing into your dick, both distal and proximal. For example, I got a 21cm implant with 3cm of rear extenders. I have a total of 24 cm of implant, about 9.5 inches.

But! Without my dick being super-stretched, the space it was being shoved into was only about 8.25 inches. That’s not a big difference… you could easily fit a 9.5 inch condom into an 8.25 inch space with a minimum of scrunching and twisting.

The result: after surgery and swelling going down, when I inflated my implant, I had about 4.75 inches distal, and 3.5 inches proximal; i.e, I had a 4.75 inch cock.

The reason why is because my tunica could not initially replicate the super-stretch measurement with only the internal force of the expanding implant. Even when inflated, my implant remained scrunched in a space smaller than its fully-extended size.

The tunica is sort of like a pliable rubber hose. It doesn’t really want to stretch, but it can. It REALLY doesn’t want to stretch when it is unaccustomed to being stretched, such as when it is coming off an extended period of ED. The super-stretch can get it fully extended (while you are under anesthesia), but just inflating the implant doesn’t quite get it there.

So, what happens when you cycle? You start stretching the tunica. And whether it happens little by little or all at once, the tunica eventually responds to the stretching by “giving” more, hopefully eventually fully extending itself to the super-stretch measurement.

That’s what happened to me. Eventually my tunica gave me additional space, such that now when fully inflated I have a 6 inch distal cock, with 3.5 inches in my crus.

Make sense? The implant doesn’t expand. The tunica does, and that allows the implant to fully extend.

A malleable implant is not inflatable. It doesn’t scrunch. It’s sorta what you guys are thinking an IPP is like. With a malleable, you get what you get… a certain size malleable means a certain size dick, because a malleable can’t gently stretch the tunica, which is why malleable measurements are undersized relative to IPPs, as they are dependent on the tunica size at the time of implant, and can lead to erosion problems (the malleable poking through the tunica) if they are oversized.

And that’s why a “flaccid” IPP is slightly shorter than an erect IPP… the implant can scrunch and bend, and your dick is shorter and not erect as a result.

I hope that all helps. If it doesn’t, talk to your docs!

Be well, Leto

Leto, thank you so much for the detailed explanation! Now all my questions are answered! It couldn't be more clearer!! Could you please tell me if your MS-pump releases with one press? Or do you have to hold the button down, like the Titan?

[LetoMan]

Hold it down. I’ve never once though of that as being an issue, however.

[AntonS]

Hold it down. I’ve never once though of that as being an issue, however.

Did I understand correctly that you press and hold the button until it's completely deflated? When I looked at the implants at a Boston representative, I discovered that with the MS-Pump, you just press the button, hold it for 3 seconds, and release. The pump vibrated, and the implant deflated automatically. The fluid flowed from the cylinders into the reservoir. It's possible that some fluid remained in the cylinders afterward, but it wasn't critical. Titan doesn't have this, even though Coloplast claimed it was a one-touch pump.

[LetoMan]

I think I am vaguely aware that if you hold it down for 3 or 4 seconds it will continue deflating. But since I usually want it completely deflated, I generally hold the button and squeeze my dick towards the end of deflation to get everything out.

Personally, I wouldn’t choose an implant based on the pump. I would choose based on sizing concerns. If you are at the smaller end, an LGX. For most guys, a CX. If larger or peyronies, perhaps a Titan. Not what I know personally, I only have one implant (a CX), but from what I read here those are common views by doctors for a variety of reasons.

[body2body]

Hm, I am really having a length issue with the Titan and lost almost 4cm, which is a real pain in the ass for me.

But my dotor explained it to me like this: "You were a grower before. That is part of the problem!"
Quite easy, when not hard, my cock was really small and easy to "store" in my pants. But when hard it grew almost up to 20cm and now I have bearely 16cm.
But the doc explained it like this: The limiting factor in my case was more the size of the flaccid penis. He could not an appropriate (for 20cm when hard) implant into a small grower penis without risking trouble, And after thinking about it, it made sense to me, even if I am struggling with the result.
He said when the tube is too big for the flaccid penis, it would cause wrinles inside and could cause severe damage sooner or later, especially when pumping it up with wrinles in it.
I imagine it myslef like putting a 20 inch tube into a 16 inch tire.

I will sure have some further talking about that matter since my doc is a real nice guy, but at the end of the day one must also acknowledge where we come from: I had mayor eye problems and a detached retina (maybe also from excessive use of Viagra) and could neither use Viagra nor injections anymore cause they are increasing the eye-pressure so much.

So by now I am complaining about the size but I have also to admit that the functionality is just amazing!

I just came back from 6 weeks in Thailand today and over there I fucked about 3-6 times per day and before I couldn´t do this without 2-4 mg Viagra. By now I just put the tiny girls on my bed, lick their tight pussies and make them wet and feeling comfy while I am pumping up my cock, putting on the condom and then just change tongue against cock!
What a great experience and never having to worry about getting small or flaccid anymore!
So I guess I just have to live with the size loss and let´s be honest......it is just an ego-booster! For 90% of the girls the size doesn´t matter and especially in Thailand I encountered so many problems before, due to my size which is not an issue anymore by now!

But this is just MY personal experience and unlike the typical German attitude of moaning and groaning, I always try to smile and see the positive aspects of any changes!

So to all of you guys in this wonderful forum: Focus on the positive aspects and thanks so much for sharing your intimate moments and problems!

[LGXDownunder]

Hold it down. I’ve never once though of that as being an issue, however.

Did I understand correctly that you press and hold the button until it's completely deflated? When I looked at the implants at a Boston representative, I discovered that with the MS-Pump, you just press the button, hold it for 3 seconds, and release. The pump vibrated, and the implant deflated automatically. The fluid flowed from the cylinders into the reservoir. It's possible that some fluid remained in the cylinders afterward, but it wasn't critical. Titan doesn't have this, even though Coloplast claimed it was a one-touch pump.

I think I am vaguely aware that if you hold it down for 3 or 4 seconds it will continue deflating. But since I usually want it completely deflated, I generally hold the button and squeeze my dick towards the end of deflation to get everything out.

I have the MS pump, yes it's pretty much automatic. The user guide says to hold down the deflate button for about 4 seconds. But I generally don't bother. Mine often continues deflating after a really brief press. I prefer a "fuller" flaccid and don't usually deflate further, leaving the "equalized" saline in the cylinders. An exception is going out to places where a prominent bulge might raise eyebrows.

[LGXDownunder]

Hm, I am really having a length issue with the Titan and lost almost 4cm, which is a real pain in the ass for me.

But my dotor explained it to me like this: "You were a grower before. That is part of the problem!"
Quite easy, when not hard, my cock was really small and easy to "store" in my pants. But when hard it grew almost up to 20cm and now I have bearely 16cm.
But the doc explained it like this: The limiting factor in my case was more the size of the flaccid penis. He could not an appropriate (for 20cm when hard) implant into a small grower penis without risking trouble, And after thinking about it, it made sense to me, even if I am struggling with the result.
He said when the tube is too big for the flaccid penis, it would cause wrinles inside and could cause severe damage sooner or later, especially when pumping it up with wrinles in it.
I imagine it myslef like putting a 20 inch tube into a 16 inch tire.

I will sure have some further talking about that matter since my doc is a real nice guy, but at the end of the day one must also acknowledge where we come from: I had mayor eye problems and a detached retina (maybe also from excessive use of Viagra) and could neither use Viagra nor injections anymore cause they are increasing the eye-pressure so much.

So by now I am complaining about the size but I have also to admit that the functionality is just amazing!

I just came back from 6 weeks in Thailand today and over there I fucked about 3-6 times per day and before I couldn´t do this without 2-4 mg Viagra. By now I just put the tiny girls on my bed, lick their tight pussies and make them wet and feeling comfy while I am pumping up my cock, putting on the condom and then just change tongue against cock!
What a great experience and never having to worry about getting small or flaccid anymore!
So I guess I just have to live with the size loss and let´s be honest......it is just an ego-booster! For 90% of the girls the size doesn´t matter and especially in Thailand I encountered so many problems before, due to my size which is not an issue anymore by now!

But this is just MY personal experience and unlike the typical German attitude of moaning and groaning, I always try to smile and see the positive aspects of any changes!

So to all of you guys in this wonderful forum: Focus on the positive aspects and thanks so much for sharing your intimate moments and problems!

Keep cycling. Getting your size back is sometimes hard won and some guys report taking a year or more to recover losses.
And keep fucking, it helps achieve the same thing . Sounds like you are having a lot of fun regardless .