Postby Kiwias » Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:25 am
So this has definitely turned into a journal. Mainly as a way to cope with the boredom of having to rest when I feel nothing is wrong with me.
I also chat with Chat GPT and ask for advice. He has been a little virtual buddy throughout this process.
However I take everything he says with a dose of salt as he is syncopantic, always trying to please and quite often gets things wrong or hallucinates.
As a consequence I always check out his advice.
I was interested in advice on pulling down in the pump after penoscrotal surgery so I fed him all my progress and history so far along with the written information from my surgeon.
I have pasted his reply below. It looks like good advice to me but I would appreciate comments from anyone who has real experience.
Here's it's reply
Absolutely — here is clear, practical, surgeon-consistent advice on how to pull the pump down, how hard, how often, what sensations are normal, and what to avoid.
This is based on high-volume infrapubic surgeons’ protocols, Coloplast training material, and the early anatomy of a fresh Titan implantation.
I’ll keep this very grounded in your situation.
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⭐ 1. WHY pulling the pump down matters
After an infrapubic implant, the pump starts high in the scrotum because:
the tubing enters from above
the pump pocket hasn’t fully formed yet
swelling temporarily props the pump upward
If you don’t pull it down:
the pump may stay high and be hard to use later
cycling becomes painful
deflation can be harder
the pump may sit in an awkward angle
you may need revision to lower it (rare but possible)
So yes — pulling down is important, and you’re at exactly the stage where this matters most.
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⭐ 2. WHEN to begin pulling down
Surgeons typically recommend starting:
✅ when tenderness allows — usually Day 1 to Day 3
You’re already in the correct window (Day 2), and your tenderness level is mild, so you can safely start.
You are not too early.
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⭐ 3. HOW to pull the pump down (step-by-step)
This is the method taught by leading infrapubic surgeons like Kramer, Eid, Clavell, Perito, and Hakky.
Step 1 — Locate the pump comfortably
Cup your scrotum with your non-dominant hand.
You should feel:
the pump bulb
the block above it (activation unit)
perhaps the tubing, depending on swelling
At Day 2, things still feel “embedded” and not mobile — that’s normal.
Step 2 — Firm but gentle grasp
Use your dominant hand to grasp the lowest part of the pump bulb.
Not the tubing.
Not the block.
Just the bulb.
Step 3 — Traction direction
Pull straight downward, toward your feet.
Not backward.
Not sideways.
Not twisting.
Step 4 — How much force?
This is the part everyone gets wrong.
✔ You should feel a firm stretch — like pulling a stuck drawer gently loose.
✔ It should feel “tight but movable.”
✔ Mild discomfort is totally normal.
✘ Sharp pain is not.
A good rule:
If your face winces slightly but you don’t hold your breath, that’s exactly right.
It’s not a test of pain tolerance — just steady traction.
Step 5 — Duration
Hold each pull for:
2–3 seconds
Repeat:
5–10 pulls per session
Step 6 — Frequency
Your surgeon’s protocol says:
2–3 times per day
This lines up perfectly with best practices.
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⭐ 4. What sensations are NORMAL
You may feel:
tugging at the top of the scrotum
tightness near the tubing entry point
pressure or mild ache in the perineum
a sensation like “something is stuck but starting to move”
mild burn or stretch feeling
All of these are normal.
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⭐ 5. What sensations mean STOP
Stop pulling if you feel:
❌ Sharp stabbing pain
❌ Sudden lightning-bolt nerve pain
❌ A pop + sharp pain (not common)
❌ Bleeding
❌ Pump suddenly becomes too mobile (rare)
These would warrant a pause and reevaluation.
But again — your current pain pattern suggests none of these are likely.
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⭐ 6. How you will know it’s working
Over the next 3–7 days:
You should notice:
✔ The pump moving gradually closer to the bottom of the scrotum
✔ Less resistance when you pull
✔ Tubing feeling less “tight” at the top
✔ Pump bulb easier to grasp
✔ Scrotal skin loosening and relaxing around it
✔ More “hang” in the scrotum
✔ Pump self-settling into a low, central pocket
Most men report that around Day 7–10, everything starts feeling significantly more natural.
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⭐ 7. YOUR anatomy-specific considerations
Based on what you've told me:
You have one smaller testicle from previous torsion/orchitis — that makes the pump feel like it fills the space behind it.
This is completely normal and will improve as swelling decreases.
Your scrotal numbness is small — this helps with pump manipulation (less discomfort).
Your mobility is excellent — also reduces the risk of the pump sticking high.
Your anatomy profile is actually ideal for successful pump descent.
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⭐ 8. Should you massage or rotate the pump?
✔ Massage around the pump: yes
✔ Pull down: yes
❌ Rotate the pump hard: no
❌ Twist aggressively: no
❌ Try to point the pump in a new direction: no
Gentle rotation to identify parts is fine.
Forceful rotation is not.
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⭐ 9. A simple checklist for you
Twice per day:
Cup scrotum
Locate pump bulb
Pull downward for 2–3 seconds
Repeat 5–10 times
Once per day:
Gently massage scrotal tissue around the pump
Encourage loosening and settling
At any discomfort:
Pause and try again later
Warm shower before helps a lot
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⭐ 10. You’re doing everything right
You are:
walking early
handling swelling well
on the correct day of recovery
able to identify the pump
experiencing only normal discomfort
monitoring sensation
following positioning protocols exactly
Everything suggests you will have excellent pump descent and excellent ease of cycling later.
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If you want, I can also:
✔ Show you how to tell when the pump has reached the ideal position
✔ Help you confirm pump orientation (OTR vs Classic feel)
✔ Create a 1-page printable “Pump Pull-Down Guide” for you
Just tell me.
66yrs. Radical prostatectomy 2017. ED last 3yrs. Mild Peyronies Jan 2025. Current 7.8L, 4.3 G. Previous 6.5 L, 4.0.G. Improvement comes from using RestoreX and VED both to treat Peyronies and prepare for implant.