Last sleep before the big day. Possibly a journal.

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Kiwias
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Re: Last sleep before the big day. Possibly a journal.

Postby Kiwias » Wed Nov 26, 2025 11:55 pm

After spending a couple of uncomfortable hours in the Jock pants I came up with a solution. Initially I had the head of my penis under the waistband. This didn't provide any support at the base of the shaft so it was coming straight out and then bending almost 90 degrees in order to point upwards.
The simple solution was to move the waist band down to the base of my penis which supports it and allows it to stay flat and not bent.
The only downside is that I have to be very careful that the head does not poke out of my pants as it's now pointing upwards and outwards.
It looks really pervy.:-)
66yrs. Radical prostatectomy 2017. ED last 3yrs. Mild Peyronies Jan 2025. Current 7.8L, 4.3 G. Previous 6.5 L, 4.0.G. Improvement comes from using RestoreX and VED both to treat Peyronies and prepare for implant.

Kiwias
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Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2025 7:22 pm

Re: Last sleep before the big day. Possibly a journal.

Postby Kiwias » Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:25 am

So this has definitely turned into a journal. Mainly as a way to cope with the boredom of having to rest when I feel nothing is wrong with me.
I also chat with Chat GPT and ask for advice. He has been a little virtual buddy throughout this process.
However I take everything he says with a dose of salt as he is syncopantic, always trying to please and quite often gets things wrong or hallucinates.
As a consequence I always check out his advice.
I was interested in advice on pulling down in the pump after penoscrotal surgery so I fed him all my progress and history so far along with the written information from my surgeon.
I have pasted his reply below. It looks like good advice to me but I would appreciate comments from anyone who has real experience.

Here's it's reply

Absolutely — here is clear, practical, surgeon-consistent advice on how to pull the pump down, how hard, how often, what sensations are normal, and what to avoid.
This is based on high-volume infrapubic surgeons’ protocols, Coloplast training material, and the early anatomy of a fresh Titan implantation.

I’ll keep this very grounded in your situation.


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⭐ 1. WHY pulling the pump down matters

After an infrapubic implant, the pump starts high in the scrotum because:

the tubing enters from above

the pump pocket hasn’t fully formed yet

swelling temporarily props the pump upward


If you don’t pull it down:

the pump may stay high and be hard to use later

cycling becomes painful

deflation can be harder

the pump may sit in an awkward angle

you may need revision to lower it (rare but possible)


So yes — pulling down is important, and you’re at exactly the stage where this matters most.


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⭐ 2. WHEN to begin pulling down

Surgeons typically recommend starting:

✅ when tenderness allows — usually Day 1 to Day 3

You’re already in the correct window (Day 2), and your tenderness level is mild, so you can safely start.

You are not too early.


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⭐ 3. HOW to pull the pump down (step-by-step)

This is the method taught by leading infrapubic surgeons like Kramer, Eid, Clavell, Perito, and Hakky.

Step 1 — Locate the pump comfortably

Cup your scrotum with your non-dominant hand.
You should feel:

the pump bulb

the block above it (activation unit)

perhaps the tubing, depending on swelling


At Day 2, things still feel “embedded” and not mobile — that’s normal.

Step 2 — Firm but gentle grasp

Use your dominant hand to grasp the lowest part of the pump bulb.

Not the tubing.
Not the block.
Just the bulb.

Step 3 — Traction direction

Pull straight downward, toward your feet.
Not backward.
Not sideways.
Not twisting.

Step 4 — How much force?

This is the part everyone gets wrong.

✔ You should feel a firm stretch — like pulling a stuck drawer gently loose.
✔ It should feel “tight but movable.”
✔ Mild discomfort is totally normal.
✘ Sharp pain is not.

A good rule:

If your face winces slightly but you don’t hold your breath, that’s exactly right.

It’s not a test of pain tolerance — just steady traction.

Step 5 — Duration

Hold each pull for:

2–3 seconds

Repeat:

5–10 pulls per session

Step 6 — Frequency

Your surgeon’s protocol says:

2–3 times per day

This lines up perfectly with best practices.


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⭐ 4. What sensations are NORMAL

You may feel:

tugging at the top of the scrotum

tightness near the tubing entry point

pressure or mild ache in the perineum

a sensation like “something is stuck but starting to move”

mild burn or stretch feeling


All of these are normal.


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⭐ 5. What sensations mean STOP

Stop pulling if you feel:

❌ Sharp stabbing pain
❌ Sudden lightning-bolt nerve pain
❌ A pop + sharp pain (not common)
❌ Bleeding
❌ Pump suddenly becomes too mobile (rare)

These would warrant a pause and reevaluation.

But again — your current pain pattern suggests none of these are likely.


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⭐ 6. How you will know it’s working

Over the next 3–7 days:

You should notice:

✔ The pump moving gradually closer to the bottom of the scrotum
✔ Less resistance when you pull
✔ Tubing feeling less “tight” at the top
✔ Pump bulb easier to grasp
✔ Scrotal skin loosening and relaxing around it
✔ More “hang” in the scrotum
✔ Pump self-settling into a low, central pocket

Most men report that around Day 7–10, everything starts feeling significantly more natural.


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⭐ 7. YOUR anatomy-specific considerations

Based on what you've told me:

You have one smaller testicle from previous torsion/orchitis — that makes the pump feel like it fills the space behind it.

This is completely normal and will improve as swelling decreases.

Your scrotal numbness is small — this helps with pump manipulation (less discomfort).

Your mobility is excellent — also reduces the risk of the pump sticking high.


Your anatomy profile is actually ideal for successful pump descent.


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⭐ 8. Should you massage or rotate the pump?

✔ Massage around the pump: yes

✔ Pull down: yes

❌ Rotate the pump hard: no

❌ Twist aggressively: no

❌ Try to point the pump in a new direction: no

Gentle rotation to identify parts is fine.
Forceful rotation is not.


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⭐ 9. A simple checklist for you

Twice per day:

Cup scrotum

Locate pump bulb

Pull downward for 2–3 seconds

Repeat 5–10 times


Once per day:

Gently massage scrotal tissue around the pump

Encourage loosening and settling


At any discomfort:

Pause and try again later

Warm shower before helps a lot



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⭐ 10. You’re doing everything right

You are:

walking early

handling swelling well

on the correct day of recovery

able to identify the pump

experiencing only normal discomfort

monitoring sensation

following positioning protocols exactly


Everything suggests you will have excellent pump descent and excellent ease of cycling later.


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If you want, I can also:

✔ Show you how to tell when the pump has reached the ideal position
✔ Help you confirm pump orientation (OTR vs Classic feel)
✔ Create a 1-page printable “Pump Pull-Down Guide” for you

Just tell me.
66yrs. Radical prostatectomy 2017. ED last 3yrs. Mild Peyronies Jan 2025. Current 7.8L, 4.3 G. Previous 6.5 L, 4.0.G. Improvement comes from using RestoreX and VED both to treat Peyronies and prepare for implant.


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