Has Anyone Not Gained Length From Cycling?

[LGXDownunder]

Cycling isn’t really allowing your implant to expand. It’s just training your tunica to expand so that the implant can reach its full extension.

This. It's the best two sentence explanation I've read.

[Irish Lad 34]

[quote="Irish Lad 34"

1.25 inches in length gains in 6 months is insanely impressive!

Even after reading this I still don't really know how the length gain happens. You even said it yourself "the balloons can't extend in length." It's very hard to comprehend.

So assuming the tips of your balloons were in your glans when you were 4.75 inches 6 months ago. How could they still be in your glans now, are they now sitting further down your shaft, given that your glans is now 2.5cm further away from the base of your penis?

the cylinders are installed uninflated , when you pump them up they push against the length and girth of the penis , with more expansion available if the penis expands in time to its previous ,original size
If you put them in a skinny, short tube ,they would only be able to fill that until stopped by the walls
if you put them in a small cotton sock . they would fully inflate until they reached their limit .
so your dick flexes ,stretches , the cylinders expand to meet the available space
and the tip stays in the same place (hopefully they do not get pushed out of the glans ) the cylinders expand when the penis does .[/quote]

I understand they expand in girth but can't understand the physics behind them expanding in length.

It's easy to see how the penis might become wider as they push against the walls of the penis, but I don't see how they will become longer if they are already stretched to their full length. A little bit like a human being - pump it full of food and he/she will get fatter but not taller.

If one end of the cylinder is now wedged into my crus and the other is wedged into my glans and if that is the maximum length of the cylinder I just don't know how it can grow any longer.

[Irish Lad 34]

As my doc explained it to me, the tunica of guys with ED is open atrophied from non-use, meaning it shrivels and loses some elasticity. When you regularly “exercise” your tunica, whether by getting natural erections, VED use, or pumping up an inflatable, the tunica regains some of that elasticity.

He explained that you can stretch a penis as far as it is going to go to evaluate how long it could theoretically get. That’s the point of the stretch test, and that’s how they measure you for your implant. But when you put the implant in, the tunica, unaccustomed to being stretched, simply doesn’t go that far. We often call the inflatable parts the “cylinders”, but they are much more like a balloon than a cylinder. And your tunica is sort of like a hose. If you inflate a balloon inside a hose, the balloon will only inflate to fill up the hose. If the hose is old and unaccustomed to being inflated fully, the internal pressure of the balloon can only do so much. But if the hose is flexible and pliable, the pressure from the balloon will push it further.

As for how it extends in length: the balloons can’t really extend in length, despite manufacturer claims. But that doesn’t mean they are getting fully inflated. They feel fully inflated because they are pushing against the hose, but they are not yet fully inflated because the hose is limiting them.

Over time with cycling (or simply use), that hose expands more, and so the balloons expand more too.

I didn’t spend a lot of time thinking about my length. But when I did measure, I wrote it down here. A few weeks after surgery I was at 4.75 inches. At the six month mark I was 6 inches. I didn’t think about “cycling” so much. I just inflated for (almost daily) masturbation and sex.

1.25 inches in length gains in 6 months is insanely impressive!

Even after reading this I still don't really know how the length gain happens. You even said it yourself "the balloons can't extend in length." It's very hard to comprehend.

So assuming the tips of your balloons were in your glans when you were 4.75 inches 6 months ago. How could they still be in your glans now, are they now sitting further down your shaft, given that your glans is now 2.5cm further away from the base of your penis?

Also surely you'd have noticed your penis growing longer and longer over the past few months even if you weren't measuring.

Visually there is a massive difference in looking down at a small 4.75 inch penis to looking down at a normal sized 6 inch penis. You must have been amazed watching it grow so much as the weeks went by. I would love to see the same happening to my penis. You actually (re)gained 33% in length which is astounding!

Irish Lad I don't think that sort of gain is too uncommon. You will find other guys on here with similar results but it takes time. My own experience has been very close to Leto's. I was less than 5 inches bones pressed erect post surgery. Disappointing but I had expected that initially from the research I'd done. I remained that size while left erect for 6 weeks waiting to begin cycling. Once I commenced cycling I started to see visual results within a couple of weeks, although I didn't measure at that point. That was an eye opener for me and very welcome progress! After 6 months post op I was close to 6 inches BPEL. Now at 8+ months I'm at 6.5 inches BPEL. I'm not really expecting further gains as I don't believe I was ever bigger than that, but I'm continuing to cycle frequently, as well as using my implant for sex and masturbation multiple times a week, just in case my memory is hazy.

Re the balloon thing, think of those really long balloons. They have a fixed length in that if you keep inflating they will eventually burst. An implant won't do that, it just won't inflate any further once it has stretched your tunica to its maximum. But balloons can also be inflated and deflated. I think of the implant as being similar but less elastic. Cycling helps stretch your tunica to hopefully regain any size lost through ED/atrophy and surgical trauma. So eventually it will allow the implant to inflate your tunica to the maximum possible. Leto explained it better but that's my 2 cents worth.

You were left fully inflated for 6 weeks?

When you started cycling did you start going all the way to 100% fully inflated right away. I will start cycling next week and I should be able to pump it to 100% when he clears me.

[Irish Lad 34]

Also surely you'd have noticed your penis growing longer and longer over the past few months even if you weren't measuring.

Nope, can’t say that I did. Again, I’m not all that focused on size. I was mostly ecstatic by what I could do with it, I was so happy to be fucking everything in sight.

Here’s the thread where I noted what my size was about 6 or 7 weeks after surgery. The whole thread is very valuable. Txaq even predicted roughly what my size would be after cycling, and it turned out he was right.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24712&hilit=Inches&start=10#p232947

Think of it this way. Say you put a balloon that is capable of expanding to 6 inches inside a 5 inch long rigid metal capsule, and blow the balloon up. It’s only going to expand to five inches, even though it can theoretically expand to six. The tips of the balloon are still going to be at the tips of the capsule. But in between the tips, the balloon is simply not going to expand to the size it is capable of. Then you put the same balloon inside a capsule that is more pliable: with pressure from the expanding balloon, the capsule itself expands to 6 inches, allowing the balloon to reach its full length.

Cycling isn’t really allowing your implant to expand. It’s just training your tunica to expand so that the implant can reach its full extension.

Yes but the difference between putting a 6 inch balloon into a 5 inch capsule is not the same as an implant in a penis because the deflated cylinders are apparently the same length as inflated cylinders.

For example if you put a coloplast titan 20cm assembly kit in your hands and measure the deflated cylinders they will be 20cm long. If you then inflate the cylinders they will still be 20cm long. Apparently the cylinders do not expand in length, only girth, therefore if they push against the tunica I would only expect the tunica to expand in girth, not length. Hence why I find the length gain aspect so hard to understand.

[LetoMan]

Yes but the difference between putting a 6 inch balloon into a 5 inch capsule is not the same as an implant in a penis because the deflated cylinders are apparently the same length as inflated cylinders.

I had similar questions for my doc at one of my follow ups. He showed me an actual implant. The tubes are much more like a rigid balloon than a “cylinder.” They can kink and bend. I’ll say it again, you don’t have to believe it if you don’t want to, that’s fine. Feel free to ask your own doc. But the issue that is holding back the growth is not the implant, it’s the tunica. The tunica expands through cycling, allowing the rigid balloons to finally fully inflate.