6 months out- still sore

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JetsFan1594
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6 months out- still sore

Postby JetsFan1594 » Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:49 am

Hey guys,

I was implanted by Eid in January. Overall, I am pleased. The ability to have an erection satisfactory for intercourse at a moments notice is great. I now am even more affirmed that the erection quality I had prior was not normal and/or sufficient for a healthy 20 something male.

I was implanted with a 24.5cm Titan. At 6 months, my girth is about 4.5 inch (at least same size as prior I believe) and length is solidly 7. My pre surgery stretch test was 7.5 inch so this might be considered disappointing but alas.

Just wanted to share my experience that today, while an 85% pumped implant is painless and provided me with adequate sex, a “fully” pumped implant still causes me a great deal of soreness. I wonder if this will ever go away. Any feedback welcome
28M, inadequate partial erections as far back as I can remember due to VL. Completely unresponsive to pills, disappointing response to Trimix. Stretch test 19cm. Implanted 1/6/23 24cm Coloplast Titan (Classic Model) by Dr Eid with .5cm RTE on left side

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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby SWorks17 » Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:37 pm

JetsFan1594 wrote:Hey guys,

I was implanted by Eid in January. Overall, I am pleased. The ability to have an erection satisfactory for intercourse at a moments notice is great. I now am even more affirmed that the erection quality I had prior was not normal and/or sufficient for a healthy 20 something male.

I was implanted with a 24.5cm Titan. At 6 months, my girth is about 4.5 inch (at least same size as prior I believe) and length is solidly 7. My pre surgery stretch test was 7.5 inch so this might be considered disappointing but alas.

Just wanted to share my experience that today, while an 85% pumped implant is painless and provided me with adequate sex, a “fully” pumped implant still causes me a great deal of soreness. I wonder if this will ever go away. Any feedback welcome


Hey Jets, I had the same problem with pain when fully inflated. I would have uncomfortable pain at the last few minutes of a 45 minute device cycling, I would do it in a warm bath. Mine pain got way better after 6 months, I can now go an hour and a half fully inflated with no pain, I haven't tested farther than that.
I also felt I would never be able to get past 45 minutes with no pain. I have the AMS LGX and I reached out to some of the patient champions that Boston Scientific had given me to contact, they just encouraged me to keep cycling. I also did stretching exercises in the warm bath at 50 to 60 percent inflated, I couldn't do the bending stretching exercises fully inflated, it hurt too much.

So, you're not alone

Keep cycling, hopefully you'll be able to extend your time fully inflated the next few months with less and less pain.
Age 66, Garden Ridge Texas, Progressive ED after Boston Scientific Rezum procedure for benign enlarged prostate 19 May 21, AMS LGX 18 w 3cm rear tips installed 5 Nov 2021 by Dr Shane Barney, Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Married 35 years

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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby Old Guy » Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:14 pm

Yes, still sore at 6 months is not unusual. This surgery is said to take a full year to heal completely, although most of the healing happens in the first 3-4 months. I was still having minor soreness up to 9 months.
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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby wolfpacker » Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:45 pm

JetsFan1594 wrote:Hey guys,

I was implanted by Eid in January. Overall, I am pleased. The ability to have an erection satisfactory for intercourse at a moments notice is great. I now am even more affirmed that the erection quality I had prior was not normal and/or sufficient for a healthy 20 something male.

I was implanted with a 24.5cm Titan. At 6 months, my girth is about 4.5 inch (at least same size as prior I believe) and length is solidly 7. My pre surgery stretch test was 7.5 inch so this might be considered disappointing but alas.

Just wanted to share my experience that today, while an 85% pumped implant is painless and provided me with adequate sex, a “fully” pumped implant still causes me a great deal of soreness. I wonder if this will ever go away. Any feedback welcome


I'm at 2 years and still get soreness. I think maybe for us less girthy guys the titan is more likely to cause soreness.
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby oldbeek » Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:52 pm

I was still sore at 95% pumped at 4 years. Doc sized you with all you could take. At over 5 years I can make it a steel spike with no pain.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby Franklin22 » Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:55 pm

This may be a dumb question, but how do you know when you are 100% inflated vs 85% you just check the ruler ? Or is there a magic number of pumps you have figured out?

I’m scheduled for a titan implant in less than a month with Clavell and around 4.5 inches girth. I’ve heard the titan can increase girth on lesser girth guys?
42 distal corporal fibrosis., Have used viagra, Cialis, and injections. Implanted 7-12-23 apart of the #Clavellnation
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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby Nestor » Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:41 pm

JetsFan1594 wrote:
I was implanted with a 24.5cm Titan. At 6 months, my girth is about 4.5 inch (at least same size as prior I believe) and length is solidly 7. My pre surgery stretch test was 7.5 inch so this might be considered disappointing but alas.


I assume that is bone pressed 7.5" stretched?

(and "solidly 7" is also bone pressed?)

Trying to assess what I might expect. Thanks!
47; Considering an implant. ED for over a decade. Tested a decade ago for VL, negative. Not hormonal; may be dopamine reward dysfunction.

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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:32 pm

Franklin22 wrote:This may be a dumb question, but how do you know when you are 100% inflated vs 85% you just check the ruler ? Or is there a magic number of pumps you have figured out?

I’m scheduled for a titan implant in less than a month with Clavell and around 4.5 inches girth. I’ve heard the titan can increase girth on lesser girth guys?

Not a dumb question at all. Estimation of an implant's degree of inflation is important for consistent evaluation of one's own progress and for communication  with and comparison to other men. It is a difficult exercise, though; look at the debate over how to measure length for an even more problematic example.

Here is what I do:

I count myself 100% inflated when I cannot pump any more fluid into my implant. 

Squeezing the bulb results in no increase in rigidity and compression/movement of the bulb is minimal, even with maximum effort.

I count myself 50% inflated when (during deflation) the backflow from the implant into the reservoir stops by itself.

I figure that is when the pressure in the reservoir and the implant have equalized with each other. (Further deflation requires squeezing my penis. I have an AMS pump that came with my AMS LGX. Coloplast pumps have a different design and the deflation process and estimation of when equalization has occurred may be more difficult to ascertain. Probably easier to determine with their "One Touch" than with their "Genesis" pumps, I guess.)

I count myself as 0% inflated or 100% deflated when I cannot (no matter how much I squeeze, fold, squash, squish etc) cause any more backflow into the reservoir.

At that point, my penis is pretty pitiful-looking. not tubular and with flat spots evident. Still longer than my pre-implant flaccid, but definitely floppy. (Coloplast-implanted men, because Coloplast uses their bioflex material will not be floppy.)

In-between those three (0%, 50% and 100%) reference points are estimations.

Caveat:

I am not, nor have I ever been, an engineer in the employ of any implant manufacturer, so this paragraph is to be taken as theoretical.

Counting pumps to make comparisons with other men or gauge one's own inflation degree is difficult because depth of the pump-bulb squeeze is difficult to do consistently; but one can try. There is also this: As the pressure goes up, fluid transfer WILL go down even with the same amount of squeeze because there is flexibility in the system. So, a squeeze that used to push "X" cc will push "X-y" cc where "y" is due to stretch of the connecting tubes and backflow of the one-way valving. "y" is minimal or zero, of course, in the early pumping but greater as the pressure increases.  I note that, at 100% inflated, I can pump (tiny depressions in the pump bulb) 10, 20, 50, 100 pumps with no change in my implant.

By the way, as to the original question, being sore at full inflation. At and a half years I still get sore in my glans if I remain inflated 100% for more than an hour or so. At two years, I got sore at 30 minutes. As the teure of my implant increases, the length of time to soreness also increases. On the good side, it is a self-limiting feature. I can go to sleep fully inflated and the soreness will wake me up before tissue compression could be a factor.
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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby Franklin22 » Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:47 pm

Thanks for the detailed response Lost sheep.
I think I understand now. And I’m sure it will all be pretty easy to figure out when I have my new toy.
You are a gentlemen and a scholar
42 distal corporal fibrosis., Have used viagra, Cialis, and injections. Implanted 7-12-23 apart of the #Clavellnation
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Re: 6 months out- still sore

Postby aussiePeyronies » Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:44 pm

SWorks17 wrote:
JetsFan1594 wrote:Hey guys,

I was implanted by Eid in January. Overall, I am pleased. The ability to have an erection satisfactory for intercourse at a moments notice is great. I now am even more affirmed that the erection quality I had prior was not normal and/or sufficient for a healthy 20 something male.

I was implanted with a 24.5cm Titan. At 6 months, my girth is about 4.5 inch (at least same size as prior I believe) and length is solidly 7. My pre surgery stretch test was 7.5 inch so this might be considered disappointing but alas.

Just wanted to share my experience that today, while an 85% pumped implant is painless and provided me with adequate sex, a “fully” pumped implant still causes me a great deal of soreness. I wonder if this will ever go away. Any feedback welcome


Hey Jets, I had the same problem with pain when fully inflated. I would have uncomfortable pain at the last few minutes of a 45 minute device cycling, I would do it in a warm bath. Mine pain got way better after 6 months, I can now go an hour and a half fully inflated with no pain, I haven't tested farther than that.
I also felt I would never be able to get past 45 minutes with no pain. I have the AMS LGX and I reached out to some of the patient champions that Boston Scientific had given me to contact, they just encouraged me to keep cycling. I also did stretching exercises in the warm bath at 50 to 60 percent inflated, I couldn't do the bending stretching exercises fully inflated, it hurt too much.

So, you're not alone

Keep cycling, hopefully you'll be able to extend your time fully inflated the next few months with less and less pain.


Hey Sworks,

Always enjoy your detailed responses.

Did you find the stretches at 50/60% much affective?

J
34 Years Old...Peyronies for 4 years. 20 Degree left and upwards curvature, major dents and narrowing, ED.

Implant + Tunica Expansion Procedure, 7th Feb 2023, Titan 22cm + 1cm RTE


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