Venous leak surgery

[drayan123]

Hey guys so today I went for my appointment with the top urologist he seems very knowledgeable about what was going on with me and he said jelqing is dangerous and a lot of patients come to him about it.. Anwyss he said there may be a chance of him performing a surgery on me to fix my venous leak but it will be expensive since insurance won’t cover it around 18k aud I was confused because I heard if you have venous leak it option is implant. Idk what to say because I’m confused he also said going for a implant would be a bad route since I’m only 20 years old and also it can be risky in the future . I drove home crying thinking I should end it all but then I realised I should really think about my decision and talk to you guys and get your opinion plewse help me out is there really a way to fix venous leak because I’m gonna be working day and night to save the money but at the same time he also said that there is low success rate. If I go through implant insurance would cover it but there are complications like scarring, mechanical failure and more im just terrified please give me ur feedback on this I’m very alone

[Floridaspeedo]

I would ask a lot of questions and get a 2nd opinion. My urologist said there are surgeries to fix a venous leak but they rarely work.

He advised pills, Trimix then implant.

[68CatFan]

You are definitely not alone. Everyone on here has or is still battling ED and the terrible emotional side effects that come with it. If oral medications do not work for you there are injections, they work for most men but there are possible negative side effects. Implants are covered by (most) insurance and if you read back a few years on this forum, you will find the overwhelming majority of implanted men love them. Sex anytime, for as long as you want, without any worries of losing your erection. They key to successful implant surgery is picking the right surgeon and we can help you with that.
If you need to talk with someone via phone who's been there, PM me. The initial anxiety and fear can be overwhelming. It's not uncommon to feel scared and suicidal.

[Old Guy]

A surgery that may or may not work? For 18K? Count me out on that.
I agree that another opinion is needed. There are other options you can try first, and more than likely insurance will require that before paying for an implant.
My thought on the implant route is the fear of infection or failure rate is so low it's not worth considering. Down the road you may need a revision, but the future will probably have implants that will exceed what we have today.

[Tokyo_123]

Based upon my amateurish opinion, I also heard that venous leak surgery rarely works. I would not consider it. But, I could be mistaken.

[Lost Sheep]

Depends a lot on where the leak is.

Also, how is this surgeon's success rate? Can he identify for sure where the leak is and that there is only that one leak? That, in my lay opinion, is vital to a successful surgery.

Fixing a flat tire starts with identifying where the leak is. Same with a penis. Sometimes the only solution is to put in an inner tube (implant). It is the "nuclear option". But it is irreversible and practically guarantees you will never have a natural erection ever again.

[Txagq8]

Hear me out. I seldom get to the point in my stories with any rapidity and this one probably won’t either. But there’s a moral buried within.

I went to the Army’s Command &General Staff College 1999-2000. Ft Leavenworth KS. I was at Leavenworth, not in Leavenworth.

During your year of classroom stuff, scheduled very much like an 18 hour load each semester, you are encouraged to take care of things you had overlooked while running a million miles per hour in prior troop duty assignments. One of the items is a head to toe physical.

After a wasted visit to a local urologist i got a doctor/ Classmate to score me a referral to the University of Kansas med school urology department. They were doing cutting edge research at that time in ED.

At that time I’d been diagnosed with ED for 11 years. I’d been on Bimix, Viagra, and was using Caverject.

Goldstein’s book touting the future of vascular surgeries…arterial augmentation, a crural tuck, venous ligation——-those were on the drawing board in 1990. I was hoping to be a candidate for one by 2000.

I got my outbrief and was disappointed, to say the least. Big tough Army soldiers don’t cry but I sure as hell whined to my wife with their verdict. The vascular surgeries were a bust. They moved me to trimix. They said keep taking pills. They predicted I’d have an implant(a good one, they said) in 20 years.

They missed it by a month. I got my LGX 19 years, 11 months later.

Their take on vascular is the human body’s remarkable capacity for finding ways to restore its equilibrium. You shove more arterial blood in a dick, it finds veins capable of draining it out even quicker. You chop out or tie off offending veins, a basket load of a network of smaller, less significant veins will step up to carry the load.

Maybe they have overcome this. I doubt it but I’m not a medicine man. I’m living proof as to how well an implant works and truthfully wish it had been a viable option when I was 30. This LGX looks and performs like a real dick. With a good surgeon, complications are rare and I sort of look forward to a revision to see if I’ve gained 3cm,enough to demand a 26 cm Titan XL.

The moral: if insurance won’t cover it, and few doctors are doing it, there’s probably some very valid reasons.

[MARKOS2018]

You’ve come a long way. Sorry you had to wait so long. Maybe you can still get that revision since you still are young and robust!

[Gt1956]

Txagq8: I was in a minor industrial accident. A pellet sized piece of steel literally shot into my forearm. Hitting a fairly good sized vein upon entry. I bled profusely. At the time I was working on a large Air Force base. The very skilled doctor (female) at the base hospital used forceps to pull out my vein & tied a quick knot in it. I asked her about blood supply. She clearly stated that my body would reroute it by growing more capacity around the injury. Now, pushing 30 years later. Only a small scar is visible.
I believe naming the ED condition as a "venous leak" has created a huge misunderstanding amongst men. This sure seems to lead to many men believing that an easy fix is possible.
I read the young members thread about once a week. I feel bad for the men looking for a diagnosis of their ED. They seem to not understand that a diagnosis very seldom leads to a viable cure. Implants were invented for a good reason. Very few men have long term options. Implants are it. Sure, seek good medical advice. Try the standard treatments. Spend the time while doing those things to wrap your mind around the reality of an implant.
Oh, btw very good post.

[merrix]

I may not know the latest of the techniques developed in the area.
But I do know something, that we are several guys on this site who've had surgery to fix leaking veins.
None of us has been cured of our ED. Some of us moved on to implants, some of us still live with ED, some with even worse ED than before that surgery. And one of us even killed himself after that surgery and after his ED got substantially worse.
I think I was lucky to not get worse.

I know that half a dozen or whatever guys on an internet forum doesn't make much of a scientific study.
But on the other hand, do you think the surgery has a high probability of success if nobody on here got cured?

Take a good read in the young members' forum on here.

As to my understanding, the accepted understanding of this surgery is that it might, or even probably will, help for a few months or a bit more. And then things will revert to as they were before the surgery.
And then again, we have people on here experiencing worsening of ED.

Be very careful.