Caverject + Cialis

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Echegollen
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Caverject + Cialis

Postby Echegollen » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:02 pm

I've been using Caverject for about 3 years now. Because of my venous leak, my erections never stay at 100% for more than 1 minutes at a time. After 1 minute, it comes down to 70-80%. It's not the best scenario but it's still 10 times better than using the pills.

I decided to combine it with Cialis lately. I took 5mg of Cialis daily for 7 days. Then I injected 20mcg of Caverject. About 10-15 minutes posts injection, I felt a lot of pain in my penis. I always feel a little bit of pain when using Caverject but nothing compared to this. It's weird because it's not like my erection was stronger. My erections still didn't stay at 100% for more than 1 minute at a time. So I don't understand what caused that pain. That horrible pain lasted until my penis went completely flaccid, which took a good 2 hours. I had to go under cold water in the shower to speed up the process cause the pain was really bad. I decided to keep taking 5mg of Cialis daily to make another experiment. A few days later, I injected another 20mcg of Caverject. The same horrible pain came back.

I then stopped taking Cialis for 4 days and used Caverject again. This time, it went back to normal. So the culprit had to be Cialis.

Anybody experienced the same thing?
I'm 33 years old. Never was able to maintain my erections for more than 1 minute. Pills don't work. Had sclerotherapy by Dr. Kuehhas in Austria in 2016. Didn't work. Injections (Caverject) are the only things that gave me good results.

Larry10625

Re: Caverject + Cialis

Postby Larry10625 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:15 pm

Echegollen wrote:I've been using Caverject for about 3 years now. Because of my venous leak, my erections never stay at 100% for more than 1 minutes at a time. After 1 minute, it comes down to 70-80%. It's not the best scenario but it's still 10 times better than using the pills.

I decided to combine it with Cialis lately. I took 5mg of Cialis daily for 7 days. Then I injected 20mcg of Caverject. About 10-15 minutes posts injection, I felt a lot of pain in my penis. I always feel a little bit of pain when using Caverject but nothing compared to this. It's weird because it's not like my erection was stronger. My erections still didn't stay at 100% for more than 1 minute at a time. So I don't understand what caused that pain. That horrible pain lasted until my penis went completely flaccid, which took a good 2 hours. I had to go under cold water in the shower to speed up the process cause the pain was really bad. I decided to keep taking 5mg of Cialis daily to make another experiment. A few days later, I injected another 20mcg of Caverject. The same horrible pain came back.

I then stopped taking Cialis for 4 days and used Caverject again. This time, it went back to normal. So the culprit had to be Cialis.

Anybody experienced the same thing?




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bldoink
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Re: Caverject + Cialis

Postby bldoink » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:19 pm

Echegollen,

I don't have a direct answer to your question. All I have is non professional speculation. I'm not a doctor or medical professional of any type. Any speculation, suggestions or advice I post here is just based on my personal experiences. Always consult your doctor and follow his/her advice.

I also use straight alprostadil although I use the non-branded generic version from a compounding pharmacy labeled as Mono-mix. I previously used Edex the direct competitor of caverject.

I don't use Cialis and I've never tried it. I do use a generic version of Viagra manufactured in India sourced through a Canadian pharmacy. I use the viagra as it allows me to use a bit less alprostadil. This lessens the alprostadil "ache" many experience. I'm speculating that your addition of the Cialis to your routine upped the effect of your alprostadil resulting in your increased ache.

I also use novelty constriction rings (AKA cock rings) in my routine.... (I use the "Lyps" brand but every dick is different so they won't work for everybody. If you're interested, discover what works for you.)... I use them as they also seem to reduce the alprostadil required and I think they help substantially with stamina. Could be worth a shot. Just remember to use rings that aren't overly tight and can be removed without undue difficulty while fully erect. Another poster said his doctor advised against this practice. I've been doing it for a good while with no (known) ill effects but I've never consulted my doctor on the matter. I just never remember to ask.

I don't know for sure if the novelty cock ring routine will help substantially with venous leak. I've never been checked for a venous leak as my main ED onset can be directly traced to my cancer surgery. However, I wasn't any kind of super stud the last few years prior to my surgery as far as staying power goes.

Bottom line: My guess is the Cialis is amplifying the effect of the alprostadil. I'm suggesting you try it again but cut back on the alprostadil and add a cock ring with the hope it improves stamina. Could be worth a shot.

Good luck
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. ~ 9 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Caverject + Cialis

Postby JimStars » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:35 pm

Ech,

On your issue with down to 70-80% ... as mentioned a cock ring can fix that.

But I use a velcro cable tie instead will get you to 110% quickly -- so much so that you have to back off some.

They are nice because they are infinitely adjustable and so cheap (3 bucks for a pack of ten at Lowes or Home Depot .. and also on-line but more expensive there.

search "Fun With Velcro" and find the thread ...

J
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.

bldoink
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Re: Caverject + Cialis

Postby bldoink » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:57 pm

I'm going to have to try the cable ties. The adjustability sounds nice. Any particular brand or just go to Lowes? I envision the velcro ties as being prickly. Is that totally a non issue? Does the wife/SO have any issues with the velcro being prickly or abrasive?
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. ~ 9 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Caverject + Cialis

Postby JimStars » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:43 am

bid..

https://www.lowes.com/pd/VELCRO-0-5-in-Multicolor-Fastener/1090877

There's the lowes URL ...

really good price .. and plenty for months and months of use.

8" may not sound like enough to get around whole balls and cock package but it JUST makes it for me and with cinching has a .5 to 1 inch overlap due to squeezing things down down. Your anatomy might vary ... It helps to get it cinched BEFORE you are inflated to max. Then you may have to adjust if it is squeezed too much and too painful hard on full inflation -- which will of course be your lucky day!

J
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RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.

Larry10625

Re: Caverject + Cialis

Postby Larry10625 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:43 am

Echegollen wrote:I've been using Caverject for about 3 years now. Because of my venous leak, my erections never stay at 100% for more than 1 minutes at a time. After 1 minute, it comes down to 70-80%. It's not the best scenario but it's still 10 times better than using the pills.

I decided to combine it with Cialis lately. I took 5mg of Cialis daily for 7 days. Then I injected 20mcg of Caverject. About 10-15 minutes posts injection, I felt a lot of pain in my penis. I always feel a little bit of pain when using Caverject but nothing compared to this. It's weird because it's not like my erection was stronger. My erections still didn't stay at 100% for more than 1 minute at a time. So I don't understand what caused that pain. That horrible pain lasted until my penis went completely flaccid, which took a good 2 hours. I had to go under cold water in the shower to speed up the process cause the pain was really bad. I decided to keep taking 5mg of Cialis daily to make another experiment. A few days later, I injected another 20mcg of Caverject. The same horrible pain came back.

I then stopped taking Cialis for 4 days and used Caverject again. This time, it went back to normal. So the culprit had to be Cialis.

Anybody experienced the same thing?



Please create a signature. It makes things much easier to answer your questions without asking a lot of questions. Here's how you do it
Click on your name in the top right corner and select "user control panel"

Then under the big letters "User Control Panel" there is a row of words... select "Profile"

Then down the left had side of the "User Control Panel" select "Edit Signature" (You might have Create Signature or something. I don't know exactly what you'll get because I already have a signature to edit)

Most guys put something like what I have, but you can put whatever you want. Here is mine -
"AMS 700 (18 + 2 rte's). Implanted March 30, 2017 by Dr. Brock of London, Ont, CANADA. Great surgeon. Went in to septic shock and had to have implant removed April 29, 2017. I'm from Belleville, Ontario, CANADA. Appt. for consult for second attempt is on November 6, 2017... I can't wait."

Don't get too carried away with the doctor like his name, address, phone number, etc (anything that looks like advertising for him).. you can certainly say Dr. Jones (great Dr.)

If you need further help, please ask, that's what I'm here for.

Larry
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Echegollen
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Re: Caverject + Cialis

Postby Echegollen » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:46 pm

Signature added. Thanks for the tip Larry.

Bldoink, what you wrote makes a lot of sense. I have stopped using Cialis for now but might give it another try using less alprostadil. By the way, from what I read, Papaverine might cause less pain than Alprostadil. Have you tried it? I'd like to give it a try because even when using alprostadil without Cialis, it still gives me a lot of aches.

JimStars, thanks a lot for sharing that idea. I have tried cock rings in the past but find it very hard to put on when erect. I usually lose my erection by the time I'm able to put the ring on. The velcro might be a good alternative. I'll give a try and report my results.
I'm 33 years old. Never was able to maintain my erections for more than 1 minute. Pills don't work. Had sclerotherapy by Dr. Kuehhas in Austria in 2016. Didn't work. Injections (Caverject) are the only things that gave me good results.


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