How can I be missing?

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nuance
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Re: How can I be missing?

Postby nuance » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:34 pm

bldoink wrote:
nuance wrote:Do you have the ring on for the entire time you're having sex?


Yes.


Ok that's interesting, did you always use it or only after it started losing some potency? You're one of the few that didn't need to up the strength all these years. Can you use a higher dose and avoid the cock ring? I only ask cause they can be quite uncomfortable.

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bldoink
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Re: How can I be missing?

Postby bldoink » Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:28 pm

nuance wrote:Ok that's interesting, did you always use it or only after it started losing some potency? You're one of the few that didn't need to up the strength all these years. Can you use a higher dose and avoid the cock ring? I only ask cause they can be quite uncomfortable.

Before RP I didn't do anything to enhance the sexual experience. I didn't need it although in retrospect I probably missed out. Rings have resulted is some play not previously experienced. Actually some manscaping helped there too.

I discovered rings while trying to perfect my injection dose and technique. After the RP I'd lost a good bit of sensitivity contributing to anorgasmia. Initially I had some ache from larger doses of alprostadil which I also believed contributed to anorgasmia and initially I didn't respond as well to alprostadil. As I got farther away from my RP surgery I responded somewhat better. I never did respond well to pills. They didn't result in any erection at all. They still don't but my response to injections did improve. I obviously have considerable nerve damage from the RP surgery although it was supposedly nerve sparing. Prior to the RP I didn't really have any major ED issues.

Anyhow, I started playing with the rings to hopefully boost my injection response, which I found it does do. I went through a fair number of rings before I found the ones that worked well for me. I also discovered I liked the rings and more importantly I discovered my wife liked the rings. Although she doesn't like them if they're too thick.

So no, I didn't start using the rings only after the injections started losing potency. They did allow me to use less injection meds. I have not increased my dosage over time. I actually reduced it from my initial doses. Some reduction was just due to me perfecting my injection technique, some was from use of rings and some was, I believe, from what little nerve recovery I've had.

Yes, I could increase my dose and negate any need for rings, although both my wife and I have discovered we like the rings. I also fear increasing my dose will exacerbate my anorgasmia issues. I do not find ring use uncomfortable. Keep in mind that the novelty/sex shop rings I use are not nearly as tight as what would be used if using constriction rings to hold a VED induced erection. If the rings are uncomfortable you're using the wrong rings or the wrong size rings. Too thick of a ring can get in the way and cause discomfort for both my wife and I. Too thin of a ring can be uncomfortable. You have to find ones that work for you. Expect rejects. I have a reject drawer.

Also, with the silicone rings, which is the material I like, some manscaping is imperative. Silicone rings and hair are not compatible. That doesn't mean you have to shave. It just means the hair in question has to be short enough to get along with the rings.

Of course you don't have to use silicone rings. Use what you find you like. Personally I found the jelly type material rings to be worthless other than for humor but other guys have found other ring types they prefer. Don't be afraid to experiment. Maybe some of the guys that like other types of rings or ring substitutes will chime in.

Good luck.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: How can I be missing?

Postby Stew52 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:28 pm

In a completely flaccid penis of a "grower", the cavernosa target is the size of large spaghetti, maybe 1/8" dia. And it's limp and moves around making it hard to zero-in on and penetrate. I've had more misses with flaccid injection than I care to remember because they always cause painful red raised areas. So I inject after aroused and about 1/2-2/3rds the way "up" or so. The target is bigger, and firmer and it doesn't move around like limp spaghetti. You need to feel the needle penetrate the outer sheath and then penetrate the cavernosa wall. Hitting too low hits the urethral/nerve bundle spongosa - not good. Hitting it on the way up - not too aroused - IMO also allows more chemical to "wash in" to more of the cavernosal tissue while filling up.

The bad news is that after injecting large doses for 5+ years, some scar tissue has formed (no peyronies) making it harder to get the needle in, so I've had a few more misses than before and and really having to be careful and drill it in a bit. sometimes it just depresses the cavernosal wall and does not penetrate. Either that or I got dull batch. Of course I use a 1/2"x30ga needle but will go to 29ga to avoid bending them which has happened more recently.

As to bldoink's comment on rings, I like that and have tried, but I have yet to find the size and elasticity ring to help and not cause a sore cold bloated hinged zeppelin that is actually too big for my wife. I have a reject box also. Too hard, too big, too small, too fat, too narrow. The natural injected girth is great (with some recreational VD) but sometimes not stiff enough long enough. But I like the idea of using less chemical with a suitable ring. It may also hold the chemical in better. So I need to find more rings.
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NOT an MD. 71, M51 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.


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