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Re: Question

Postby Robert66 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:50 am

bldoink wrote:Referring to whats in his signature, 0.3ml would be 30 U-100 units. Most guys talk in U-100 Units as we usually use U-100 insulin syringes that have U-100 Unit markings on them. There are 100 U-100 units in a ml. It's actually a insulin specific measurement but it works for us just knowing there are 100 units in a ml, so 0.3ml (or 3/10 ml) is 30 units.
Did that make any sense?




Yes i am trying to get a grip on if this much trimix worked how much edex should i try my trimix at 65 units only had 11.61 of pge per shot but it also had the two other chemicals it was 17.77/0.58/16.99 pge and it took 65 units and 30mg of VIAGRA. Now i am out and have edex but where to start
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Re: Question

Postby Robert66 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:54 am

bldoink wrote:Edex worked for me. The mono-mix I use now is just a stronger generic version of Edex. Good enough that I've never even tried tri-mix.



Your signature confuses me if you have 80 mcg of pge mix with 100 units of water and inject inly 12 units that is very little pge so i must be confused on the numbers
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Re: Question

Postby bldoink » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:46 pm

Robert51 wrote:I do have a question i was buying from china the guy told me its 100mcg pge1 and you add 250 units of injectable water so now you have edex 40 times two and a 20 edex one vial. Your 80 mcg of pge1 is a liquid or powder and how much water you add if powder


Please keep in mind that I'm just a Bubba stumbling through all of this stuff.

With the quality and potency of your Chinese stuff being such an unknown I'm thinking there isn't much point even worrying about what went on with that. But whatever!

So, wouldn't adding 250 U-100 units of water (2.5ml) to 100mcg of alprostadil powder give you 2.5ml of an Edex 40 equivalent. Or if you prefer 2 1/2 Edex 40s all mixed in one vial, or 5 Edex 20s or 10 Edex 10s? What's the point in all of that confusion?

Knowing what I think I know now, were I in that situation, I'd just dilute the powder in 1ml of water and try injecting 8 to 10 units. But that's for me based on my personal experiences. Not a recommendation for you.

My stuff comes in liquid form. I've tried to get the pharmacist to dispense it in powder form for the sake of non-refrigerated travel. The response I got was that it was theoretically possible but there were sterility issues that would be difficult and they didn't want to go there. That's not what he said but due to my ignorance of pharmacy stuff that's what I got out of what he said.

Robert51 wrote:Yes i am trying to get a grip on if this much trimix worked how much edex should i try my trimix at 65 units only had 11.61 of pge per shot but it also had the two other chemicals it was 17.77/0.58/16.99 pge and it took 65 units and 30mg of VIAGRA. Now i am out and have edex but where to start


I'm not a medical professional of any kind. I'd be reckless to give you specific advice on dosing. You'd be foolish to trust any dosing advice I'd give.

My first uro gave me Edex 20s and really no instructions other than what was included in the box when I got my script filled. I'd have hoped your doctor would do better than that. IF I'm understanding you correctly, you seem to have a pretty good understanding of the comparisons of what you were taking and what you now have. I'm GUESSING that along with the other drugs in your Tri-mix you were taking a little more than the equivalent of an Edex 10 (I calculated 11mcg). You said you now have Edex 40s. So half of an Edex 40 would give you the equivalent of an Edex 20 and a quarter of an Edex 40 would of course equal an Edex 10. As you needed so much of the other drugs along with the 11mcg of PGE-1, I'm guessing an Edex 10 ain't gonna get it done. As I think I said previously, I started with a full Edex 20 and found it to be too much once I had it all figured out.

So, that's where I started (Edex 20) but after I got my routine worked out an Edex 20 was a little too much. I had several incidents that bordered on meeting the standards for an ER trip for a priapism. If they made such things I'd now be using the equivalent of an Edex 12. That's ASSUMING the relative strength of my compounded Mono-mix corresponds to the Edex strengths. If so, my mix is equal to an Edex 80, which they don't make. So I figure (at 15 units) I'm taking what would be a bit more than half of an Edex 20.

If any of that made any sense, and assuming my math is correct, which is a very risky assumption, perhaps you can use my experience as some sort of a foolish guide.

Robert51 wrote:Your signature confuses me if you have 80 mcg of pge mix with 100 units of water and inject only 12 units that is very little pge so I must be confused on the numbers


Well I'm actually doing close to 15 units currently. But, as I mentioned above I think what I'm doing kinda equates to what would be just over half of an Edex 20 for 12mcg alprostadil or PGE-1.

Obviously with my pharmacy compounded Mono-mix I'm injecting considerably less volume to achieve the same dose as I would if using an Edex cartridge. This could also explain why I find it necessary to inject so slowly to avoid pain, possibly due to my concentrated mix.

I sure hope all of that made some sense. I also hope my math was at least close to correct. I'm really lousy at math and my brain now hurts from trying to figure it out.

Good luck.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Question

Postby Robert66 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:45 pm

I do understand the confusion has to come from the china stuff. They claim its 100mcg but if so before i found trimix i injected 26 units of this 100mcg after diluting it by only 100 so that would of been 26 mcg of pge1.
So how can i get same results using 11pge1 in trimix so the china stuff is not what is claimed. One plus i do have is my v leakage helps prevent an overheat i will toss the china stuff and try 12mcg of the us stuff
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Re: Question

Postby bldoink » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:36 pm

That's probably a safe place to start but with your history and considering that you were also injecting the other two ingredients of tri-mix, I doubt that will be enough to get er done. I'm guessing you'll be using at least a full 20, but ya never know. Have fun finding it out.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Question

Postby Robert66 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:32 pm

bldoink wrote:That's probably a safe place to start but with your history and considering that you were also injecting the other two ingredients of tri-mix, I doubt that will be enough to get er done. I'm guessing you'll be using at least a full 20, but ya never know. Have fun finding it out.


The edex web site claims dont freeze or refrigerate after mixed but that is wasteful i will mix a 40mcg and try 30 units or 12mcg how long will leftover last?
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Re: Question

Postby antelope » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:36 am

I use a compounding pharmacy that does all the math and all the mixing. Never had a problem or a failure. IJS
Born 1948, wed 1969. BPH & Type II Diabetes at age 35. TURP-2002; ED even before that--diabetes. Cardiac valve surgery: 2007 & 2019. Poor results with pills. Started trimix injections in Nov, 2010. Great results from the very beginning.

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Re: Question

Postby bldoink » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:21 pm

Robert51 wrote:The edex web site claims dont freeze or refrigerate after mixed but that is wasteful i will mix a 40mcg and try 30 units or 12mcg how long will leftover last?

A version of this topic was discussed in at least a couple of previous threads. One I was able to find fairly quickly. I'll post others if I find them:
https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11868
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Question

Postby bldoink » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:22 pm

antelope wrote:I use a compounding pharmacy that does all the math and all the mixing. Never had a problem or a failure. IJS

Antelope,
Robert is in a bit of an unique situation being an expat veteran living in the Philippines. It doesn't appear he has the easier options available to those of us living in the mainland USA.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Question

Postby Stew52 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:01 pm

Robert51 wrote:
Stew52 wrote:I used a Caverject 20 mcg recently and it worked fine compared to TriMix. I went to TM hoping to get the amount of PGE down as I get a PGE burn that may interfere with orgasm. Anorgasmia seems to have progressed enough that neither prevents it.




Am i reading that right you use 3 units of trimix or. 30 units?


I use 20-30 Units (0.20-0.30 ml). I don't even know how guys can function on 2-3 units, it barely registers on a 100 unit (1 ml) syringe; it's almost unmeasurable. But if it works that's great and saving money.
NOT an MD. 71, M51 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.


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