Inconsistent results with trimix

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Stepbystep
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Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby Stepbystep » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:51 am

Hey guys, I'm a 27 year old that has had ED since 18. I was able to make it until about age 25 without the use of ED meds, but could really only keep it up for 10-20 minutes at a time before losing my erection. At the age of 26 I discovered that I have low testosterone, and have been on HRT for about a year now. Unfortunately HRT has made me feel much worse, and has made my ED almost 100%. I do not respond to PDE-5 inhibitors for the most part. I can take 10 mg of Cialis and 50-100mg of Viagra before bed and wake up with morning wood of varying intensity depending on my hormones. Unfortunately when I start to use these erections I lose them.

I've been using the basic starting mix of trimix 30/1/10 for about 5 months now. Dosages have ranged from .04ml to .22ml. Currently I've settled on roughly 20 units, but my current batch might be getting weak. The problem I've experienced at all dosages is that I either end up with a 10 minute erection, or a 6-7 hour erection. Frequently I'll start losing my erection during sex about 15-30 minutes in, but as soon as I lay down after sex, the erection returns and nothing will make it go down until 6-7 hours have passed. It's like there's no in between. It either doesn't work, or it works too well. I'm injecting at 3 and 9 o' clock 1" from the base using a 31ga 5/16" syringe. I always draw back the plunger and check for blood.

Any advice would be great, a 1-2 hour erection is what I really want. It's also frustrating that I begin to lose my erection some times, only for it to come back after sex.

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby bldoink » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:41 pm

I'm not a medical professional of any kind. Anything I post is based on my own experiences at best and hallucinations or delusions at worst. Nothing I post should be misconstrued as medical advice. Always ask your doctor and follow his/her directions.

Talking out of my azz here but I think you really need some more extensive diagnosis by a urologist specializing in male sexuality type issues. It sounds to me like you have a venous leak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venous_leak.

I think adding a constriction ring (AKA cock ring) may be your ticket, at least temporarily. I'd suggest trying some novelty (sex shop) rings first. I use one around the shaft behind the boys. I use the "Lyps" brand. You'll have to experiment to find what works. Expect to throw some in the trash. You want just tight enough to fight your possible venous leak without adding so much constriction you have to be concerned with time length of wear. You want rings that can be easily removed when erect. You MAY find you can use less meds with a ring. Wearing a TIGHT constriction ring longer that 15-20 minutes can be damaging. If the somewhat milder novelty rings don't do the trick then consulting your doctor about tighter medical grade would be advisable. Of course actual medical advice is always more advisable than internet advice. You get what you pay for.

You may have some difficulty finding a doctor competent and experienced in diagnosing male ED causes. You may want to post a question requesting doctor suggestions for your geographic area.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville by Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. V.E.D, Viagra and Alprostadil (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 12 units. Originally Edex20. Switched to compounded Alprostadil - cost. Injecting ~ 8 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby cincinnatus1951 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:34 am

Step: Had very similar results with trimix. Agree totally with the previous poster, get a diagnosis from a reproductive medicine or sexual medicine specialist. We finally went with an implant and we love it. Difference I was 72 when I got it. Good Luck.
Cincinnatus
Age 79, Wife 77 Married 52yrs RPP Dr Brian Miles, Houston Methodist, July 2013. Used VED, pills, MUSE, and trimix with no or mixed results. 18cm Titan, one RTE by Dr Mohit Khera, Baylor, Houston, Jan 2016

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby Stepbystep » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:35 pm

Thank you gentlemen, I do have a referral in for a really good urologist to get full diagnostics done. I'll try a cock ring, although I really would hate to complicate intercourse more than it already is. My gf has been great about it so far. I do have some on hand that I never opened.

The implant terrifies me, especially considering I'm only 27. That's really not an option I'm considering at the moment, then again I never thought I'd be sticking my dick with a needle to have sex.

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby cincinnatus1951 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:07 pm

Step: I understand the reluctance to entertain an implant. My initial reaxtion wass "they are not doing that to me!" you certainly don;t want one if other therapies work. In the alternative, if they don;t sex is too important to just go off frustrated. If you are intersted, after your diagnostic appointment, I would be glad to do a show and tell via Skype or Facetime.
Cincinnatus
Age 79, Wife 77 Married 52yrs RPP Dr Brian Miles, Houston Methodist, July 2013. Used VED, pills, MUSE, and trimix with no or mixed results. 18cm Titan, one RTE by Dr Mohit Khera, Baylor, Houston, Jan 2016

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby bldoink » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:25 pm

That's great. You really want to get a proper diagnosis. Be sure and tell the doctor everything. Don't hold back. Make sure you tell the doctor about your ED being effected by position.

As for rings, I've found that only silicone rings have enough substance to be effective. Other guys have other preferences. The jelly type are worthless for this purpose. As far as complicating things, well you can put the ring(s) on ahead of time if you wish. Although my wife initially thought the ring concept was odd it turns out she actually likes the rings and the way they "packages things". I do the one around my shaft behind the boys for mainly ED aid but she also likes a smaller one around them too, so I do that at her request. So I guess it's all a matter of how you introduce them to the party. Sorry if TMI.

A little added constriction might be very helpful, at least temporarily. The option is too cheap to not try it.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville by Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. V.E.D, Viagra and Alprostadil (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 12 units. Originally Edex20. Switched to compounded Alprostadil - cost. Injecting ~ 8 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby FMLFML85 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:28 pm

Stepbystep I am 33 and I have non organic ED. In order to get a ok erection I have to inject enough trimix to give me a 6 hour erection. 10 units gives me a 2 minute boner while 20 gives a 6 hour boner. Look at the bright side though, you can get a erection and have sex with it. A lot of couples stop having sex because they are not interested in each other anymore. A lot of men can’t get a erecrion due to stage fright. You don’t have to deal with those things. Just keep calm and don’t damage your penis.
33 years old, devorced. ED from abusing a penis pump. Pills having little effect, starting carverject theropudically june 13th

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby antelope » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:08 pm

FMLFML85--Can we assume that you've tried 12-14-16-18 units as well? Surely there's a sweet spot between a few minutes and 6 hours
Born 1948, married 1969. BPH & Type II Diabetes at age 35. TURP-2002; Some ED even before that. Cardiac valve surgery-2007. ED from diabetes. Poor results with pills. Started trimix injections in Nov, 2010. Great results from the very beginning.

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby smphead » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:24 am

Hi Step, maybe you have to check your HRT-protocol again. Do you have an aromatase-inhibitor to block the conversion of T into E? Too much E can also give ED problems.

Did/are you using medicines like propecia, Ro-accutane or a SSRI or other medicine which can give also problems with the Androgen-receptor?

Stay strong Bro.
40 y/o male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
Thinking about Penile Implant.

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Re: Inconsistent results with trimix

Postby Stepbystep » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:08 am

Smphead,

I've been all over the map on HRT, I've been with Defy for the past 5 months on a pretty decent protocol. I've never really converted a lot of my T to E2 thankfully although I have tried .125mg of Arimidex for a short period with no change. HRT has made everything worse, minus my body composition. I just kind of stopped taking my shots over a week ago, but have taken HCG a few times. Really thinking about giving it a break for a while. Thousands of dollars spent on meds, bloods and syringes and I feel like shit.


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