Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

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alfa88
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Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby alfa88 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:06 pm

Hopefully on my upcoming visit to my GP I'll get a script for trimix(30-2-20). I have tried 5 shots of Edex 20 and get a tolerable pain with poor results. Question: Say I start with 1unit(10mg),(if my math is correct); is the dose of Alprostadil(PDE1) going to be 20mcg and thus expect the same tolerable pain? I wouldn't mind that feeling of a raging hardon if I actually got a raging hardon. :D
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results. VED is a last resort.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby bldoink » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:05 pm

I'll try, but I can't guarantee accuracy as I'm not an expert on that kind of stuff. I'm not a medical professional of any kind. Anything I post is based on my own personal experiences at best and my delusions or hallucinations at worst. Always consult your doctor and follow his/her advice.

With the Edex 20 you got 20mcg of alprostadil by taking the whole dose of 1 ml.
So, assuming in your desired 30-2-20 tri-mix, the 20 indicates alprostadil, you'd have to take the whole ml to get 20 mcg of alprostadil. Hopefully you won't be taking the whole ml. The 3 ingredients are supposed to work synergistically making the mix stronger as a whole than than they would separately.

Units are a measurement of volume so your correlation of 1 unit to 10mcg doesn't compute with me.

Taking the alprostadil ingredient of your proposed tri-mix alone at 20mcg per ml and assuming your unit refers to the diabetic U-100 unit most here are familiar with, there are 100 units per ml, so then 1 unit would be 0.2mcg of alprostadil.

However your dose isn't likely to be 1 unit. I'm guessing you'd start with at least 10 units, giving you 2mcg of alprostadil. Making the alprostadil a tenth of your current Edex dose.

And again, I'm not an expert and can't guarantee accuracy.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 12 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. ~ 8 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby alfa88 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:03 pm

Thanks Bldoink. Apart from my bad math that's sorta what I wanted to know in that the Pde1 'burn' should pretty much be a non issue with Trimix. Now if I can get me an ~ hour set it 'n forget it hardon I'll be happy as a clam. :D
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results. VED is a last resort.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby Stew52 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:03 pm

Bldoink is correct in his math; yours was incorrect. One "unit" on an insulin syringe is 1/100th of a ml (mililiter); 10 units is 0.1ml of whatever mix you are injecting. It seems the injection crowd here rarely uses units.

In your case 1ml of Edex 20 = 20 mcg of PGE1 and at 0.2ml, the 30-2-20 would yield 0.2 x 20 = 4 mcg, abut 1/5th of your current Edex which you may need to adjust.

I was using 40 mcg of Caveject40 (same as Edex, PGE1) in a 1 ml syringe (that's lots of liquid to inject). There was a good hard on and a lot of burn which frequently inhibited ejaculation. I am now typically using 0.2-0.3 ml of 30-2-40 Tri-Mix now which is 8-12 mcg of PGE or about 1/4th the PGE1 of the Caverject with an approximate equal reaction and less burn. Your Uro might start you with 0.1 or 0.2ml and work up to an effective doe]se in 0.1ml increments.
NOT an MD. 66, CenTX US. Inj since 12/16 a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr (35mcg PGE). 1/18 Using Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/40 pge @ 0.3ml. Supp w/ 0.1-0.2ml 60 mcg/ml PGE1 on occasion for a longer session. Anorgasmia setting in.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby alfa88 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:57 pm

Up till now I've only injected Edex. It seems like Edex is the AOL of penile injections in that everything is pre-measured and fool proof so I want to make sure I've got nomenclature correct when I go to Trimix. Sorry if this seems obvious but I'm a Nervous Ned and don't want to end up with a visit to the ER.

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Is this correct?
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results. VED is a last resort.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby bldoink » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:31 pm

Here's a link to a pet site called Pet Place. I have no connection with them but thought it might help: https://www.petplace.com/article/dogs/pet-health/how-to-convert-u-100-insulin-in-units-to-milliliters/

I'm really leery about giving specific information that someone might use for dosing. You should really consult a medical professional or at least consult a pharmacist. My understanding is that your understanding, as posted above, is wrong by a decimal point. In other words, If I understand your post, the answer would be .01 not .1 as you indicated. Ask a medical professional. I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 12 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. ~ 8 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby Stew52 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:58 pm

1 "unit" = 0.01ml = 0.01cc (1 100th of a 100 unit/1.0ml syringe)
10 "units" = 0.1ml = 0.1cc (1/10th of a 100 unit/1.0ml syringe)
100 "units" = 1.0ml = 1.0cc
etc.

This crowd tends not to use cc's because ml is usually printed on the syringe.

A 0.3ml syringe is also popular for low dose users.

Like the man above said, your Uro should go over all this: mix strength, initial dose, progression of dose to effective dose, and injection technique with you. Other threads discuss the first office visit, etc.
NOT an MD. 66, CenTX US. Inj since 12/16 a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr (35mcg PGE). 1/18 Using Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/40 pge @ 0.3ml. Supp w/ 0.1-0.2ml 60 mcg/ml PGE1 on occasion for a longer session. Anorgasmia setting in.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby alfa88 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:04 pm

10 "units" = 0.1ml = 0.1cc (1/10th of a 100 unit/1.0ml syringe)


I believe this applies to my pic. I'll try to stick with cc from now on.

You should really consult a medical professional

Like the man above said, your Uro should go over all this: mix strength, initial dose, progression of dose to effective dose, and injection technique


I'll be seeing my GP to run this past her. My Uro visit is a couple months away. I have no desire to do things hap-hazard with one of my favorite body parts. I just don't want to appear completely clueless. :D
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results. VED is a last resort.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby bldoink » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:51 pm

It makes no difference whether you use cc or ml. I usually use ml but whatever floats yer boat.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 12 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. ~ 8 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Trimix vs Straight Alprostadil

Postby alfa88 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:33 pm

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Hopefully on my upcoming visit to my GP I'll get a script for trimix


My hopes were dashed. She apparently felt too uninformed to prescribe penis poking medicine. My Uro has failed to reply to 2 calls so I'll wait for my scheduled appointment. :( Hopefully I can jettison this guy when my medical plan changes next year.

It makes no difference whether you use cc or ml.

A holdout from my old 26HP VW days. The engine was a 1200cc, these days it'd be called 1.2L. When will the US ever go to metric? :x
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results. VED is a last resort.


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