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Steve5231
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On the bottom

Postby Steve5231 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:02 pm

I don't understand why this happens. My wife like to be on the bottom. But when she gets on top of me I go soft. I am using Tri-Mix and have been for 2 years now. Works fine except for this strange thing. Otherwise I'm good for 2+ hours. If I stand up or am sitting... hard as a rock! Any thoughts?
75 years old. Was on Viagra and then Cialis but got fed up with the side effects. Switched to Tri-Mix 3 years ago but had increasingly reduce effect. Finally implanted 1/19/2023. Always looking for advice. Live in Illinois.

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Re: On the bottom

Postby bldoink » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:23 pm

Venous leak! Try adding a cock ring. Otherwise I think you're going to have to forgo that position unless you take the big step to an implant.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 10+ yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: On the bottom

Postby Steve5231 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:43 pm

Thanks. But I still wonder why all is well until she gets on me. Up until then and after, all is well. Puzzling.
75 years old. Was on Viagra and then Cialis but got fed up with the side effects. Switched to Tri-Mix 3 years ago but had increasingly reduce effect. Finally implanted 1/19/2023. Always looking for advice. Live in Illinois.

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Re: On the bottom

Postby newtoed » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:20 pm

I experience the same thing. I personally don’t think it’s the usual venous leak. It’s just simply physics. Your penis is upside down and under pressure from the vagina. Inevitably some blood will leave.

After we are done with she being on top I ask her to give my dick some CPR. That means sucking it back to life lol. In a few minutes of gentle oral stimulation I’m back in business.

By the way after I ejaculte I use this phenomenon to my advantage. I lay down on my stomach with my dick against my body and this way under gentle even pressure my dick slowly deflates.
Age 54, Single, Los Angeles. Stage 2 rectal cancer in 2013. Radiation, surgery, chemo. In remission for 5 years. Some ED before cancer, complete since. 2-3 units of Trimix 40/30/2 2-3 times a week since Feb/2017 with great success!

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Re: On the bottom

Postby Alanoc8 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:40 pm

I have the same problem. With me I know it is venous leakage.
75 yrs. old. Married. I used viagra from 2007 t0 2017. I have venous leakage. I started injections in September 2017. I've used the Xialla cock ring along with Trimix since June 2020 with excellent results. I pump on a daily basis to maintain my size.

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Re: On the bottom

Postby Stew52 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:25 pm

I see this mentioned a lot here on the board so I'll give my solution. Same here, it used to be one of her fave positions - good spread and penetration. Missionary not her/my fave. Rear entry not so good either as I have a bit of up curve and large glans that then misses the G-spot.

The alternate we found is sideways, laying on side, facing each other. Her lower leg brought up just above my hip in the indent. Soft top mattress. The upper leg can be pulled way up, almost lifted. It really spreads the perineam allowing deeper penetration too and really exposes the G-spot well for our geometry, and allows a good slam. Really it's much like with her on top but just on our sides. Even at that, depending on the dose, Wiley can get a bit limp in 10-20 min and we pull out, "fiddle around", fluff Wiley fully up, and start again for another 10-20min. The bonus is that it's a bit more restful for a longer session. Also, it seems the more times this is done, the harder Wiley stays; by the 3rd or 4th insertion things can really pop. But by then she's usually had more than enough (constantly orgasmic) at 30-60 minutes. I've mentioned elsewhere that we can alter the mix and dose to adjust hardness and duration. Hope it works for you.
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NOT an MD. 71, M51 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.

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Re: On the bottom

Postby Stew52 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:06 am

BTW'PS. for "bottom challenged" guys, there are two other positions that warrant exploring: "doggy style" kneeling behind or standing at the edge of a bed, and her prone at the edge of the bed with you standing. These rear-entry positions work best (G-spot engagement) for straight or down-curved boners. Most report better boners when standing as opposed to laying. I saw a pile driver position but you'd have to have a wife who could work for Cirque du Soleil for that. Any others?

For guys who fade more quickly, a base dose of a pill, or a stronger dose, or a "booster shot" partway through can work. I also shoot half the dose into each side and it seems to work better sometimes reserving 0.1ml for a booster in case we go longer. I also find that a short withdrawal rest and standing and fluffing (you and her) will re-stiffen it, and it seems to get harder with each re-entry. Sorry I am not into rings that have been mentioned for faders. Tried them and can't stand the huge purple then gray cool floppy member. Kudos for guys that can tolerate them.
NOT an MD. 71, M51 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.

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Re: On the bottom

Postby Larry10625 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:17 am

My wife like the feel of doggy style but says it's too impersonable. With the missionary style I have to lift her legs up and almost push them to her shoulders which is not comfortable for her, me standing at the side of the bed and her face up is good but I would like at least one more. I discovered a new one (new for us anyway)... we lay at almost a 90 degree angle with her on her back. She lifts her legs up and me, laying on my side can enter her like that. It would probably work good for anal too but my wife wont try that one. :)

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Re: On the bottom

Postby bldoink » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:36 pm

Stew52 wrote: Sorry I am not into rings that have been mentioned for faders. Tried them and can't stand the huge purple then gray cool floppy member. Kudos for guys that can tolerate them.

If just used as an aid for injections you shouldn't be using one that constricts like what you would use if using with a VED. As an aid, you want a milder ring that just helps, not one you're trying to have run the show. But whatever works for you is what's right for you.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 10+ yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: On the bottom

Postby Stew52 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:34 pm

Larry10625 wrote:My wife like the feel of doggy style but says it's too impersonable. Larry


If that is the case, that it's "impersonal", it's not working. When a session is working, my wife's eyes are rolled back, she's in a far away place and she doesn't even know I'm there. She comes around occasionally if I slow it up and only half jokingly says, "Who are you?". :o :o Since Tri-Mix entered the boudoir she says she doesn't have to kill me anymore, only half joking again??? :shock: :shock: I really need to find the trick to get that bottom and cowgirl variant position working again. It was always her fave. Thanks for the suggestions for a "position challenged fader". The research continues . . . :D :D
NOT an MD. 71, M51 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.


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