Did my Bathmate cause Venous Leakage ??

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Tokyo_123
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Did my Bathmate cause Venous Leakage ??

Postby Tokyo_123 » Fri Oct 14, 2022 1:32 am

I just tossed out two of my Bathmates, my X-40 X-Treme and my 7-WideBoy Hydroextreme. I would always use the external red pump for maximum suction. I would use it for roughly 25 minutes, around four times a week after lifting weights. Used it on and off for about a decade.

Just read that it is recommended usage is only 15 minutes, and ideally you are suppose to deflate the unit after five minutes. That said, I never had difficulty until I used the Bathmate. Thinking that I overused the unit and this caused the venous leakage. According to the doppler test, my venous leakage was a 14, which is considered severe (was told that normal is around a 3).

Just wondering if others had same experience.
Venous Leakage (which I believe caused by my overuse of the Bathmate VED)

Dr. Clavell, August, 2022. Titan One-Touch, 24cm XL cylinders and trimmed off 0.5cm

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Re: Did my Bathmate cause Venous Leakage ??

Postby Anonymous FT Member » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:46 pm

You said you never had difficulty before, so it definitely seems like the use of a pump had a bad effect. During my time on FT and seeing several guys talking about VL it crossed my mind if pumping could actually cause it. From what you are saying, it certainly seems like it did.

I now wonder if my pump caused VL in me. Unfortunately for me no doctor that I've seen is interested or thinks I'm worth finding out if I have a VL. Maybe they take one look at me, and decide it is best for me to not have an active sex life.

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Re: Did my Bathmate cause Venous Leakage ??

Postby sogwap » Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:08 pm

PSSDorAmINormal wrote:Unfortunately for me no doctor that I've seen is interested or thinks I'm worth finding out if I have a VL. Maybe they take one look at me, and decide it is best for me to not have an active sex life.

WTF, if you want a doppler test, why would any doctor refuse?

I don't know how your medical coverage is paid, but are you not willing to pay for one out of pocket?
Age: 68. Struggled with ED/PE for years.
Used Viagra for 10+ years with mixed success.
In May 2022 started using Trimix with very good results.
Feb 2023 developed PD

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Re: Did my Bathmate cause Venous Leakage ??

Postby Anonymous FT Member » Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:24 pm

sogwap wrote:
PSSDorAmINormal wrote:Unfortunately for me no doctor that I've seen is interested or thinks I'm worth finding out if I have a VL. Maybe they take one look at me, and decide it is best for me to not have an active sex life.

WTF, if you want a doppler test, why would any doctor refuse?

I don't know how your medical coverage is paid, but are you not willing to pay for one out of pocket?


It is likely covered, but none of the many urologists that I've seen over my lifetime has ever offered one. Is that how the medical system works, am I expected to know and ask for tests? I just sometimes have the feeling that doctors get tired of treating penises

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Re: Did my Bathmate cause Venous Leakage ??

Postby sogwap » Fri Nov 25, 2022 4:25 pm

PSSDorAmINormal wrote:It is likely covered, but none of the many urologists that I've seen over my lifetime has ever offered one. Is that how the medical system works, am I expected to know and ask for tests? I just sometimes have the feeling that doctors get tired of treating penises

I'm 60+ and have had ED for 15+ years.
Never once (other than this site) has it been suggested to see a urologist, much less get a doppler test.

It was only after 10 years of my wife wanting less and less sex (essentially sexless marriage) because of my ED, that I sought out treatment with penile injections.
I first asked my GP/family doctor, who was clueless about injections. He literally had to look up penile injections. He then offered Caverjet which cost $45 each injection.

I then researched for a local urologist and then called my GP/Family doctor for a referral to the urologist.
Because of Canada's outstanding medical system /note sarcasm/ it took six months to see the urologist.
When I finally talked to the urologist he knew exactly what I wanted. He arranged an in-person appointment for a trial injection.
He never asked anything about my medical history nor offered any tests.
At the in-person appointment, he showed me how to do the injection and see that it worked (got a disappointing chubby, LOL)
I've been using the injections now for six months with good success.

My point is that if I did not pursue my own personal health treatment plan. I would still be living in a miserable sexless marriage.
We are now averaging successful sex at least once week. Although we still have issues in life, its not because I cant get it up.
Age: 68. Struggled with ED/PE for years.
Used Viagra for 10+ years with mixed success.
In May 2022 started using Trimix with very good results.
Feb 2023 developed PD

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Re: Did my Bathmate cause Venous Leakage ??

Postby Anonymous FT Member » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:48 pm

sogwap wrote:
My point is that if I did not pursue my own personal health treatment plan. I would still be living in a miserable sexless marriage.


I think I understand what you mean, but based on everything you said I guess any perceived erection problems that I may have are not easily treated. I can't read the minds of the many doctors that I've been to, but apparently they don't know what to do, or how to "treat" whatever it is that I ask them about. Apparently doppler is deemed unnecessary for whatever form of ED they think I might have.

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Re: Did my Bathmate cause Venous Leakage ??

Postby sogwap » Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:50 pm

PSSDorAmINormal wrote:I think I understand what you mean, but based on everything you said I guess any perceived erection problems that I may have are not easily treated. I can't read the minds of the many doctors that I've been to, but apparently they don't know what to do, or how to "treat" whatever it is that I ask them about. Apparently doppler is deemed unnecessary for whatever form of ED they think I might have.

What treatments have you been offered?
I would assume Viagra/Cialis, as most doctors will prescribe the pills if you simply mention ED.
If you got no results from pills and you don't have any other obvious symptoms or causes. You could try Trimix.
If trimix doesn't give results then I would think a doppler test would done be in order to test blood flow.

Having said that I am not any kind of medical professional, but like you a suffer of ED for many years.
Until last year I ran out of ideas on what to do. That is until I came back to this site and started seriously reading about injections.

As full disclosure I joined this site (franktalk) over 10 years ago and made/responded to about a dozen posts in 2011.
At that time (2011) several FT members recommended Trimix. Stubborn me thought I would continue to use Viagra.
Regretfully I suffered with a shitty sex life for the past ten years. It wasn't until I took action and pursued a solution that I got results.

To the OP I didn't intend to hijack your post. But I will say this if you think you have VL and you pursued other treatments, Definitely get tested. At least then you will know.
Age: 68. Struggled with ED/PE for years.
Used Viagra for 10+ years with mixed success.
In May 2022 started using Trimix with very good results.
Feb 2023 developed PD


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