VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

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smphead
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VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby smphead » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:30 pm

So, i'm trying my device out, but at several pumps it sucks my lower abdomen vacuüm, although the ved has a sleeve. Also it's like my balls go up and vacuum.

Besides that i don't know how much i have to pump. Today i did 6 reps of 5 pumps with release between the reps (i could't pump more due to the pain of my lowe abdomen.)

Very frustrating. I want to work on my ED and even a pump doesn't work.
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:03 pm

I sympathize with your situation. Scant instructions cause much confusion.

What is the diameter of the pump's opening? It sounds as if it is too large if it admits your testicles.

To exclude my testicles, when I used a vacuum pump, I placed it close against the base of my penis to firmly exclude my scrotum and testicles. This did allow suction on my pubic fat pad (above my penis), but that was manageable.

To a certain extent, some of my flesh was sucked into the vacuum tube. But I did not apply so much vacuum that this became a problem.

If the vacuum is too high, damage to your penis could be done. So, use only enough vacuum to produce an erection equal to or a centimeter or two larger than your previous erections (immediately prior to vacuum use, not what you remember from your youth). Sorry, I do not know a specific vacuum level. One of the first signs of incipient damage is edema on the day after vacuum use. If that happens, discontinue use for a few days until the edema resolves. If it does not resolve, seek medical attention.
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby bldoink » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:11 pm

I don't know your pump to dick fit so I won't go there. I do know there are sleeves some guys use to resolve the issue. I definitely know the result of sucking a ball or two up into the vacuum tube.

Otherwise, my suggestion is to be gradual in the pump up. Pump a little, hold, release. Repeat. Continue to repeat as your dick slowly gets larger and fatter each time. If the dick to vacuum tube fit isn't too far off you'll eventually get fat enough so that you can continue the session with less worry of sucking the wrong parts into the tube.

Good luck.
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby dtwarren1942 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:08 pm

My guess is the cylinder is too large. Some guys tie a cord around their scrotums, and pull down slightly to prevent “suck up.”

Pump up until you feel slight discomfort and then back off slightly.
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby smphead » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:09 pm

dtwarren1942 wrote:My guess is the cylinder is too large. Some guys tie a cord around their scrotums, and pull down slightly to prevent “suck up.”

Pump up until you feel slight discomfort and then back off slightly.


Good advice.
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby smphead » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:13 pm

bldoink wrote:I don't know your pump to dick fit so I won't go there. I do know there are sleeves some guys use to resolve the issue. I definitely know the result of sucking a ball or two up into the vacuum tube.

Otherwise, my suggestion is to be gradual in the pump up. Pump a little, hold, release. Repeat. Continue to repeat as your dick slowly gets larger and fatter each time. If the dick to vacuum tube fit isn't too far off you'll eventually get fat enough so that you can continue the session with less worry of sucking the wrong parts into the tube.

Good luck.


Thanx, and what is the timeframe till it's hard enough? I pumped for 5 minutes and it was the same length of my erection by mastrubation. But when i released it went immediately soft
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:00 pm

smphead wrote:Thanx, and what is the timeframe till it's hard enough? I pumped for 5 minutes and it was the same length of my erection by mastrubation. But when i released it went immediately soft

It is normal for an erection produced by vacuum to collapse immediately upon release of that vacuum unless the blood producing the erection (which was brought into the penis by the vacuum) is forced to stay in the penis.

That is usually done by a constriction ring around the base of the penis if you want to use your penis for sex.

If you just want to have an erection for therapy, inside the vacuum chamber will be adequate for that, but, of course, not for sex at all.
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby bldoink » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:32 pm

What lost sheep said.

If you are wanting to pump up for sex and you can't maintain an erection on your own you need constriction rings AKA cock rings and they need to be medical grade rings or sex shop rings that are like medical grade rings.

For this to work, you stretch the ring over the mouth of the pump vacuum tube before pumping or at least before the final pump. You then pump up and while pumped up and still under vacuum you slip the constriction/cock ring off the mouth of the tube onto your dick, thereby trapping the blood in your engorged erect dick. If that doesn't hold your erection you need tighter or possibly as an alternative multiple rings.

This process can be achieved with novelty or sex shop pumps but the medical grade pumps are designed for this purpose and are designed to easily install the rings on the pump vacuum tube and to also easily slip off the tube onto your pumped erect dick.

Please remember that for medical reasons (as in the health of your dick) you are time limited to 15 to 20 minutes wearing a ring uninterrupted. The little guy needs fresh blood to survive and I doubt you want your dick rotting off.
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby smphead » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:34 am

Lost Sheep wrote:
smphead wrote:Thanx, and what is the timeframe till it's hard enough? I pumped for 5 minutes and it was the same length of my erection by mastrubation. But when i released it went immediately soft

It is normal for an erection produced by vacuum to collapse immediately upon release of that vacuum unless the blood producing the erection (which was brought into the penis by the vacuum) is forced to stay in the penis.

That is usually done by a constriction ring around the base of the penis if you want to use your penis for sex.

If you just want to have an erection for therapy, inside the vacuum chamber will be adequate for that, but, of course, not for sex at all.


Thanx again. I'm glad to hear it's normal that a penis collapse after releasing.

So i'm using the VED for penis health. What is the best way? Pumping till max and then hold vacuum for about 10 minutes in the VED?
Or pump till max, release, pump till max, release, ect.?
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Re: VED sucks my abdomen vacuüm (pic attached)

Postby oatmealkid » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:23 pm

Use of the word "normal" is misleading - it is only "normal" if you have heart or vascular disease.
The mechanism of the penis is that engorgement of the penis causes constriction of the veins on the penis that drain the penis - it isn't normal for the penis to deflate when suction is released, unless you have a vascular condition.
There are one-way "valves" in your veins that prevent backflow of blood - this can be seen by "stripping" a vein, in which a tourniquet is applied and a finger is used to push blood backward out of a vein.
The vein remains flat because these valves inside the veins prevent backflow in the vein, which is a mechanism for maintaining venous blood pressure.
This happened to me in my late 30's, when I found I could no longer strip a vein, indicating my venous valves no longer worked.
This was also the point at which I began having rubbery erections and difficulty getting erections - in fact it was the point at which my "youthful vigor" began to wane. It also was the point at which it became difficult for me to achieve a "pump" in the gym.
It is not normal for your penis to deflate when pump vacuum is released - it is an indicator of a vascular problem.
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