VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

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smphead
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VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby smphead » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:23 am

Hi all,

I'm a 41 y/o male who has ED due to usage of Propecia. I have problems maintaining an erection, but with good stimulation and Cialis it works.

Still in the progress for an Implant but i hope i can delay for some years.
I know it's important for penis health to get erections on a regular/daily basis.
I don't have morningwood and i want to maintain penis health, but don't want to use cialis on 'non-sex' day's.

So i was thinking of a Ved for daily erections for penis health. So the penis will daily filled with blood.
When using a Ved for penis condition do i have to stay with my penis in the Ved for 30 minutes or do i have to pump it up and use a cock ring for 30 minutes?

Thanx all in advance
40 y/o male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
Thinking about Penile Implant.

Wesbigs
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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby Wesbigs » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:45 am

I think for therapy you are better off skipping the cock ring and just pumping to erection and deflating several times to keep fresh blood flowing through your penis.
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smphead
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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby smphead » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:50 am

Wesbigs wrote:I think for therapy you are better off skipping the cock ring and just pumping to erection and deflating several times to keep fresh blood flowing through your penis.


Thanx, i was exaxtly thinking about that. Do you think i could do that daily for 30 minutes?
Also is stay 30 minutes 'pumped' an option ?
40 y/o male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
Thinking about Penile Implant.

bldoink
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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby bldoink » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:16 am

I agree with Wesbigs.
I personally would not stay under vacuum steady for a half hour. Do repeated cycles for a half hour.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. ~ 9 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby smphead » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:15 am

bldoink wrote:I agree with Wesbigs.
I personally would not stay under vacuum steady for a half hour. Do repeated cycles for a half hour.


Thank you, can you say why this way is better than staying a half our under vacuum?
How long do you advise to stay in the individual cycles?
40 y/o male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
Thinking about Penile Implant.

bldoink
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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby bldoink » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:11 pm

I don't claim to be an expert on VED use. Others are more regular users of VEDs than I am. I should use them more often. My VED experiences are probably far from universal. Remember, my ED is caused by nerve damage resulting from a RP (I had normal functioning prior to the RP) and may not be applicable to those with ED resulting from other causes. Without a VED with tight rings or injections my dick is pretty much totally dead.

If I were to leave my dick under vacuum strong enough to achieve and maintain a full erection for a half hour I would end up with substantial edema and possibly some blown small blood vessels.

For therapy use:
I don't try to pump up to a full erection all in one go. I pump several pumps (a manual device), hold for about 20 seconds and then release, wait about 15 seconds, and then repeat. I continue doing this, getting to greater engorgement with each cycle, while increasing the number of pumps, until reaching a maximum normal size or a bit greater. I do pump to a larger than natural size but I'm reasonable about it. Don't get carried away no matter how tempting.

I never leave under vacuum more than about 20 seconds but I do continue cycling to maximum size a fair number of times. I never actually count the total number of cycles as it varies according to how bored I get with it or if I think I might need to stop as I might have been a bit too aggressive.

I do find that taking a Viagra prior to pumping helps make pumping a lot easier.

I also find having sexual thoughts (however you achieve those) helps a lot with pumping. I don't really understand why as in my case the brain/dick arousal connection seems to be otherwise severed. However, there seems to be some remaining connection that allows arousal signals to relax something or otherwise allow easier pumping but not enough to cause any erection at all alone or even with pills. Oh well!

Always error on the side of caution. If you're getting pain you're pumping too much or too quickly. Either that or you need more lubrication. Generous lubrication is essential. Unfortunately the need for generous lubrication is one reason I don't do this therapy as often as I should. I find lube cleanup to often be a nuisance.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Michael Wehle. Nerve sparing - badly damaged. C in margin. V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. ~ 9 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby dtwarren1942 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:14 pm

Pumping for ED

Prior to ED, erections were fairly easy to achieve by a simple stimulation. That was when all systems (blood flow, nerves, smooth muscle relaxation, etc.) required to generate an erection were working well and were in tune with each other.

Perhaps you developed diabetes or an other chronic disease or medication or injury or bad diet that effected your blood flow or nerve endings. Or, you just got older.

Anyway, now you can’t get or maintain an erection and your dick remains limp most of the time and you rarely, if ever, have sex with it anymore.

Prior to developing ED, you would also get random boners and nightly wood during REM sleep. There is a reason for getting these erections and that is, they force in additional oxygenated blood that forces out the old “contaminated” blood and helps rejuvenates the penile tissue.

The purpose of vacuum pumping your dick is to replicate the nightly wood, sex, and random boners you had prior to developing ED.

We can do this by pumping for short periods of time, say five minutes, at 4 to 5 hg then releasing the vacuum and exiting the tube. Perform three slow jelqs, forcing the blood up your shaft into the glans and after each jelq grab your glans to force the blood back down the shaft. Let your erection subside and repeat this process two or three more times.

The whole idea is to get fresh oxygenated blood back into the tissues that have been neglected in the absence of regular elections. Pumping is not always the best solution; however, it often helps. And, if it also results in some increased girth, who will complain.

To follow this routine it would be best to get a pump system that has a vacuum gauge. You can usually get a LeLuv system on Amazon for under $90.
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PhilipS
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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby PhilipS » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:25 pm

There is a device made for therapy use called Prelude available online from You and Me Time. I use it daily for 15 minutes: three 5-minute erections. It comes with directions on how to use it. I also use it prior to foreplay, then use the vacuum pump and cockrings for sex.

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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby dtwarren1942 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:23 pm

How does the Prelude work? There are no instructions on the web site
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Balsawood
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Re: VED therapy not for sex but for penis health

Postby Balsawood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:59 pm

It works on suction. I use daily during shower and shave it’s not as high pressure since it’s only hand on polyuretanevlike tube. Pm if u want more info. I wear longer than u cud VED.


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