Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

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Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby Beachdude » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:37 am

I stumbled on a YouTube video about using a vacuum pump for penis conditioning. While it was mainly aimed at conditioning for pre-implant surgery, it got me to thinking about using the pump for general conditioning? I've just started experimenting with my pump for about a week now, but I've noticed improvement in both the firmness and the girth of my erection in conjunction with my injection. Maybe it's just psychological but now my penis gets erect faster and remains harder than before I started the conditioning. I see maybe just a very slight length increase but do see more effects with girth. I was curious if anyone else uses the pump for conditioning purposes and if you had any positive results.

Essentially what I am following is: Pump the penis up for 5 seconds, hold for 5 seconds, then release vacuum for 5 seconds. I do this for 10 minutes a day. After I reach my initial 10 days, I plan on reducing the conditioning to every other day. I'm hoping this creates a sort of 'muscle memory' type effect on my penis that will make my injection erections even better.
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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby bldoink » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:06 pm

I think it helps, although I realize short of some modern miracle I'll never have a natural erection. But why drop to every other day. IMHO, daily is better. But no I don't do daily. I'm too lazy.
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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby regor1965 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:08 pm

Can I ask what type of pump you are using? I am starting to use one for my implant surgery the doc just approved me for in about 6 weeks. I am afraid of blowing a blood vessel in my penis if I pump to much, is that possible?. Your method to the madness seems like a better idea.
Male, 54 years old, ED issues since early 30's pills helped for many years, now give me headaches or do not work. Implant surgery 10/4/2019 by Dr. Frank Greskovich Pensacola, Florida.

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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:19 pm

regor1965 wrote:Can I ask what type of pump you are using? I am starting to use one for my implant surgery the doc just approved me for in about 6 weeks. I am afraid of blowing a blood vessel in my penis if I pump to much, is that possible?. Your method to the madness seems like a better idea.

Yes, tissue/vascular damage of a couple different kinds are possible.

I gave myself edema (which resolved in a couple days) when I over-pumped. How to find the limit? I don't know, but pumping up beyond my natural erection's length by more than 3/4" is what did it to me. So I stayed at about 1/4" to 1/2" longer than my best out-of-vacuum erection.
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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:26 pm

Beachdude wrote:I stumbled on a YouTube video about using a vacuum pump for penis conditioning. While it was mainly aimed at conditioning for pre-implant surgery, it got me to thinking about using the pump for general conditioning? I've just started experimenting with my pump for about a week now, but I've noticed improvement in both the firmness and the girth of my erection in conjunction with my injection. Maybe it's just psychological but now my penis gets erect faster and remains harder than before I started the conditioning. I see maybe just a very slight length increase but do see more effects with girth. I was curious if anyone else uses the pump for conditioning purposes and if you had any positive results.

Essentially what I am following is: Pump the penis up for 5 seconds, hold for 5 seconds, then release vacuum for 5 seconds. I do this for 10 minutes a day. After I reach my initial 10 days, I plan on reducing the conditioning to every other day. I'm hoping this creates a sort of 'muscle memory' type effect on my penis that will make my injection erections even better.

Sound reasoning. Whether it makes sense to your tissues is another matter. Of course, there are trade-offs (dangers) to consider, so don't overdo it (see my answer to regor1965).

The theory of penile conditioning is that a functioning penis (at a minimum) gets erect pretty much every night while the man is sleeping. A man with severe E.D. does not get these nocturnal erections, depriving the penis of the flushing of fresh, oxygenated blood and the periodic stretching of the tissues that provide maintenance of elasticity. The theory is that the vacuum pump does those things (though the blood flushing is not as efficient because some of the blood is venous rather than arterial, so oxygenation is not as rich).

I say the chances it will help rather than hurt are good as long as you don't overdo it (like I did when I got a bit over-enthusiastic, encouraged by size increase inside the tube).

Refer to this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=4&p=111755#p111755
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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby regor1965 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:36 pm

I got a little worried when it turn purple lol, length stayed at my normal 6" but the girth did expand...I will keep playing with it (as I always have lol).
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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby Beachdude » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:40 pm

Thanks for your feedback guys. Yes, I've done some online research as well and do know that over doing it can create damage. That's why I am careful to now inflate to the point that my penis feels like an over inflated balloon. I pump to a good hard erection. and like a poster said, only to about 1/4" or little more of what my natural erection would have been. I think that is the reasoning for the inflate, deflate procedure as well, to not only get the penis used to increasing incoming blood flow, but to relax the vessels and prevent damage. That is also why I will reduce to every other day after 10, as I feel I will have reached a peak, so to speak, and by alternating can prevent any vessel damage by over doing it.

Like I said, I'm not a doctor and this is just my own experiment, so I advise using common sense and don't over pump. But so far my results are very promising.
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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby bldoink » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:46 pm

Yeah, definitely use caution. Damage can occur. Error on the side of caution.
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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby dtwarren1942 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:53 pm

I followed this technique which helped a lot in the beginning
https://www.thundersplace.org/penis-pum ... Pumping+ed

Also, pulse pumping helped a lot. Pump up to 5 hg and hold for 2 minutes then reduce to 2 hg for thirty seconds. Repeat five or six times. Theoretically, this is the routine your dick goes through every night during REM sleep.
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Re: Using a vacuum pump for general penis conditioning...

Postby Beachdude » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:31 pm

Thought I'd post an update to my conditioning experiment. I've been doing it for a couple of weeks now, and although the results are not overwhelming, I do see definite improvements in certain areas. I am now doing the conditioning every other day instead of everyday to let my vessels rest more. I've seen no hindrance in the benefit. As for the improvements I've seen on myself, I am seeing a definite more firm erection now with my injections. By this I mean a slight improvement in girth of the shaft but most notable in the increase of my head. Also, I have noticed that I am having more nocturnal erections than before. I attribute this to possible improvement of blood flow to my penis. My wife has been sick, so haven't had a chance to see what improvements may lay with intercourse. But all indications are she is wanting to have sex this weekend, so I'll let you know how that goes.

Overall, the results are good, but not mind blowing. But good enough that I do think the conditioning is helping somewhat. So I plan on continuing my experiment and will update you with any change, good or bad.
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