RP and Nerve Removal

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equusAz
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RP and Nerve Removal

Postby equusAz » Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:03 pm

Well, I never thought I'd be in this place in my life. My entire life I've had healthy erections up until about a year ago. Started having very minor ED and got some cialis. All was fine until my PSA's jumped to 10. Long story short, due to my relatively young age (47), I went with RP. Last thing I need is to undergo a RP after radiation, or to possibly get other cancers due to radiation.

While 'in there' the urologist removed one of the nerves due to possible incursion. There wasn't any but its better to be safe than sorry and the good news is - looks like everything is out - Prostate removed with no spread beyond, not even in the lymph nodes.

So I'm dealing with the slowly worsening depression. I am happily married (to a man) and we had lot of discussions prior to and post surgery about ramifications. However...I've had zero erections since the surgery. Not even morning wood. I was warned this was a possibility, and even with one nerve removed I only stand about a 40% chance of getting any kind of erection back, but...being warned and facing reality are two different things.

This absolutely sucks. I still have sexual urges and needs, but...I don't have a physical response. I'm abit nervous to try to reach orgasm yet. Also...and this may seem to be a bit personal, but I was not 'averaged' sized. Well above average really (7.5x6.25 non-bone pressed). And well, I can definitely tell I've lost length - which is a bit of a kick in the teeth too.

I don't know just felt like venting here is all. I certainly didn't ask for this in life and I get it life can throw you curveballs, but man. This sucks. :(

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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby CuzznClark » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:39 pm

I went thru the RP 2.5 years ago at age 63. Pills worked before surgery but needed Trimix injections after surgery.
One tip on avoiding length loss; about 6 months after surgery started using a VED and now 2 years later I have 90+% of my length and girth back (wish I would have started the VED at month 2 or 3 instead of 6 months post surgery). So I have now begun chapter 2 called salvage therapy, and have been on ADT for 2months and will begin 38 radiation treatments next week. I am fortunate to be with the supportive woman of my dreams after 42 years of marriage. It's difficult not to get down when ED worsens after RP - however open discussions with my supportive wife have been key for me. I have also had an initial consult with an implanter and have discussed the same with my wife as a next step. Please know that despite the post-surgery recovery disappointment - that you do have options to get closer, or 90+% of the the way back to where you want to be
67 yrs old, married ro my beautiful wife for 43 years..oral meds did the job beginning at 58 until undergoing RPS at age 64, Trimix worked until it didn't. Implanted with 20cm Titan (no RTEs) by Dr Levine on 3/18/24

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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby silver daddy 1960 » Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:32 pm

Hi equusAz,
Your story is so much like mine, even size, but I was 52. My Dr had told me I had a 70% chance of recovery of function but a year and a half later still nothing. Then years of depression and anger until I found this wonderful website and all these great men to help!

First things first, make sure you use the VED to reduce possible additional length loss. Have you tried injections? I found trimix worked but hurt like hell, then did bimix to great results. That finally wore off so I went for the implant and man the best thing i could have done for myself!!

I did masturbate to a floppy success i guess a couple weeks out at the urging of the Dr. It works just a bit more difficult to get over the top.

PM me if you have questions or want to vent I was there. But I am like other post implant guys, "why did I wait so long to do it?" Glad you found FrankTalk!!
63 yrs old, NYC, DR. Eid Titan Coloplast Dec 10, 2021

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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby Anonymous FT Member » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:45 pm

I didn't catch how long ago your surgery was. If not all that long ago I would suggest giving yourself ample time to heal and adjust. Your body has been through a lot and you have likely experienced much worry and distress.

Over time your physical response may improve. Just keep at it and working with it. Never tire or get bored touching yourself. It is personal, but you most likely need to exercise the penis and rehabilitate the area that has been cut.

Perhaps some nice pumping sessions will help with tissue expansion. At the same time don't overdo it and cause damage to the penis. You may have less sensation and therefore it could be possible to overdo it without really realizing it.

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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby bldoink » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:26 pm

Welcome to the forum.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby ftwabeck3533 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:33 am

equusAz wrote:Well, I never thought I'd be in this place in my life. My entire life I've had healthy erections up until about a year ago. Started having very minor ED and got some cialis. All was fine until my PSA's jumped to 10. Long story short, due to my relatively young age (47), I went with RP.



Here are the two websites/forums which I was very active on in the months after my PCa diagnosis, as well as post prostatectomy:
- https://healthunlocked.com/ Several good communities...
.... Active Surveillance - Prostate Cancer
.... Advanced Prostate Cancer
.... Erectile Dysfunction Support
.... and more.
- https://www.inspire.com/
.... I am subscribed to the "Prostate Cancer" community

I am much more active on FrankTalk.org these days (it's pretty focused on my big challenge, ED).

I've made "friends" on both HealthUnlocked and Inspire. I'm of the opinion the "guys" on these two forums are quite empathetic and knowledgeable on the subject of prostate cancer.

I challenge you to reach out to the members -- pretty sure you'll hear back from a few who are "in your shoes" and will share their experiences.
Born 1955, Erectile Dysfunction, Robotic Prostatectomy (Oct 2018, Dr Bugg @ UCA, Birmingham, AL), PSA<0.007, Trimix User (30 mg Papaverine HCL, 1 mg Phentolamine MES, 10 mcg Alprostadil per 1 ML. My dose is 0.16 ML)

equusAz
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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby equusAz » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:46 am

Hey all -

Thanks for your replies, greatly appreciated. As an FYI my RP was on July 10th - so I'm just 1 month out today. I know (mentally) that I have to give it time, but going through it is a bit different. I think thats the hard part - just reality can be jarring at times no matter how much you think you are prepared.

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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby Anonymous FT Member » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:47 pm

equusAz wrote:Hey all -

Thanks for your replies, greatly appreciated. As an FYI my RP was on July 10th - so I'm just 1 month out today. I know (mentally) that I have to give it time, but going through it is a bit different. I think thats the hard part - just reality can be jarring at times no matter how much you think you are prepared.


July was just last month. So I would definitely encourage you to wait and see. I think with many surgeries the healing process can sometimes take up to a year. Big changes and improvements can happen by that time. I think you're young enough to really see big improvements especially if you are in good shape otherwise and stay active and healthy. All the best to you and yours!

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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby equusAz » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:54 pm

Thanks everyone. Yeah - one day at a time, and I know its early - but man - dealing with it is hard.

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Re: RP and Nerve Removal

Postby bldoink » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:17 pm

It is most definitely early. You should just be worried about getting well. That and doing your therapy, to include your kegels and using a VED. At this point the VED is for therapy and not sex although I don't see any reason you couldn't play around if desired.
Good luck.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.


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